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 Post subject: Re: The Death of the HDR
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:46 am 
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Oh, and no PR, Costa Rica does suck. It's just getting too expensive now. It's still got more to offer than Colombia does for the one-week traveler.


Lmao ... Your subconscious mind came through :lol: :roll:

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yeah, it might be. But I have amended the original post to reflect the "n't" that it deserves.

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 Post subject: Re: The Death of the HDR
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:58 am 
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HDR is a game to me, I like playing it. It's a rareish opportunity for a guy to play hard to get. Maybe the quality is down and prices are up... but I still usually manage to find something better than respectable on my terms.

For $100 in my home geography I MIGHT get a "car date" with a woman full of needle tracks and half her teeth. Or roll the dice on backpage and then get robbed.

All that said I prefer DR. I like 'em a little daker and Sosua has a nice beach. There are fewer fatties because the money they could have spent on food goes to the salon and shoe store.

I have another SJ trip in April and then I'm going to think hard on what's next. I like Pops' prespective that mongering is about landing the best you possibly can. I'm also going after being a world monger which demands hobbying in more than 4 countries, 5 if you count California.

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 Post subject: Jaco vs HDR
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:55 am 
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HDR vs Jaco and my specific needs:

HDR:

I do not like fat chicks, older chicks, Dominicans, or ugly chicks and the HDR is full of these the last couple years. However, I really like Nicaraugans. I have always found Nicas to deliver superior service and take directions well. Our plane lands around 9pm and it's always been a tradition to hit the HDR on the first night after we check in. Since I usually snatch a hot bodied dark skin Nica that is in the a 8 range for overall looks- the HDR serves a purpose for me. :lol: :lol:
There always seems to be ample Nicas and I find many are loners, shy, and have the proverbial chip on their shoulders due to the strong bias against them. This is all perfect for me and plays right into my game for all the right reasons!

My wingman usually have less than 3 CR trips under their belt and are impressed more easily as well. So while I do agree the A-talent has shifted to Jaco, and us Mongers need to work a little harder at the HDR. There are no other places to go at 10.30pm+ at night in SJ that has this variety. Knowing this, and knowing we will hit the MPs for lunch the following day, and than The Cocal a few days later....it's similar to a mounting crescendo with the best (most drama) for last from the Cocal! 8)
So HDR serves it purpose well and I neither love or hate it. It just is what it is, imho.

JACO: I used to really Hate Jaco too, as I see it for the sewer pit of a third world country that it really is.
However, I love Manuel Antonio and I have a Penchant for Hedonism! In order to enjoy my Abberations simultaneously, Jaco - or the Cocal really - is a necessary pit stop in my world and I have made adjustments for my time in Jaco accordingly.

I have refined the scope of how I use Jaco and limit my time (last 3 years) to renting condo on beach at North end. It's a nice family condo facing beach and it's a more pleasant experience to chill at condo pool and walk to and from the surf to pool and or Claritas Restaurant (with Tica or Paisa in tow).

And even though we rent condo for 3-4 nights, we take off to Manuel Antonio for the day and sometimes sleep over there if we get too drunk. Fishing and or golfing at Los Suenos encompass other days and we usually drive directly to airport at 5:30am for 9am flight. (We will take our dates to lunch at Los Suenos and than jump in the pool and pay with cash at swim up bar. As long as you don't ask for a towel, I've never been hassled). :mrgreen:

Other than fishing at the Cocal for pink snapper, we avoid Jaco all together (less our condo on beach which is quiet). Literally, we drive to Cocal, tip guard to park inside gate, take as much time as we need at Cocal, and drive everybody right back to condo on beach. It's been over 3 years since I walked on the Main Street of Jaco and if I never do it again - I'm okay with it!

One positive merit for Cocal versus HDR, the bartenders give you your change back!! :roll: :mrgreen: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:32 pm 
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The Cocal offers some fantastic Nicas also. I posted a photo of one a few months back who was off the chart in looks. Late night in San Jose if the lineup at the Del Rey offers nothing that turns you on, try Alcazar (strip club). It is a different type of experience but the quality is outstanding and the price if managed properly is well within reason (cien or less).


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:39 pm 
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Add me to the Nica fan club. Don't know why it took me so long to figure out that my best sessions tend to be with Nicas.

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 Post subject: Re: The Death of the HDR
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:07 pm 
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n my view the king is worn and tired and needs to find its fountain of youth.

It has been two years since my last visit to San Jose for Super Bowl 48 and the king is continuing its slow and steady downfall. I have since moved onto the homeland of the paisa. That being said, I will return to San Jose someday, as I had many great experiences and have enjoyed my trips there.

My observations and in no particular order
The physical plant of the Rey is worn down and is in serious need of a makeover if it wants to compete, and yes I have stayed there before. A large chunk of the first floor was converted to a poker room, is that space really profitable? The sister property Key Largo has been dead for the most part the five years I have been going to CR. I realize that there may be some government influence involved to marketing the business and the new law and be under pressure.

A devaluation of the Colombian Peso and lack of devaluation of the Costa Rican currency. Your dollar goes almost 50% further in Medellin right than it did some 12-18 months ago right now, in August of 2014 the peso was in the 1800 range, now it it is in the 3200 range while the CR colon has remained in the 535 range. In addition the flights to MDE are often cheaper with similar timetable from FLL. There is a serious learning curve involved when going to MDE and often requires the help of a very experienced wingman for the first few trips until you find you comfort zone.

The smaller properties in the Gulch have a very loyal customer base that is based upon the quality of service and product provided by the onsite, involved and responsive ownership groups. Assuming that they can provide a similar experience in the future they should survive and even thrive as they cater to not only the tourist community but to the local expat community as well.

Modern day communication has made it much easier for the girls to fill their calendar without ever visiting the Rey. sites like facebook and whatspp make pre booking easy.

Many have mentioned the new road to Jaco, another factor is the emergence of the Liberia airport, more and more flights are added to this airport as well, keeping people out of the Gulch on the arrival night or night before departure.


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Flabuck wrote:
...There is a serious learning curve involved when going to MDE and often requires the help of a very experienced wingman for the first few trips until you find you comfort zone...

Facebook is the best way to integrate with the quality working girls in MDE ... but you'd better be able to speak Spanish or you'll have a rough time.

MDE is way different than SJO in terms of how the game is played. So many of us use the HDR as a central point in our plans, and it doesn't exist in MDE. Without it, you better have 'plan b' and 'c' or you're stranded.

Costa Rica is the 'training pool' of the Latin American mongering world.

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3 years ago the HR and San jose in general became stale to me but I always had a very good time. l now enjoy jaco. The cocal was my preferred hotel now it's crocs.
I'm willing to bet that $100 would get the vast majority of girls who work cocal. Both places the girl to guy ratio is usually good. IMHO the problem is that some mongers can't accept the fact that girls want a little more $$.When paying more or less it's personal preference. As we age some things become less important than others.
If Costa Rica is what some people are portraying it as why do the girls from other central American countries want to live there so much.


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3 years ago the HR and San jose in general became stale to me but I always had a very good time. l now enjoy jaco.

I agree that it's where the quality is now. It's just that it doesn't fit with my method of insanity. That, and it's hot as balls all year 'round!

But I fully respect that other guys love it and have no use for the gulch anymore.

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BashfulDwarf wrote:
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3 years ago the HR and San jose in general became stale to me but I always had a very good time. l now enjoy jaco.

I agree that it's where the quality is now. It's just that it doesn't fit with my method of insanity. That, and it's hot as balls all year 'round!

But I fully respect that other guys love it and have no use for the gulch anymore.


My thinking also. I just spent 4 days in SJ, 3 nights of which were spent at the SL. Really enjoyed it. Huge selection of HOT women? No. Adequate selection for me. The main reason I might go to Jaco in the future would be that it is nearer "other" activities such as white water rafting and ATVing.


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Trying to make arrangements for April... contact I made in October has sinced moved to Jaco because HDR is too slow.

Despite my offer of a full Thursday together she suggested I take the bus to Jaco. Sorry chica, not gonna happen.

In 3 short years I'm seeing a lot of changes. None to my liking.

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...Despite my offer of a full Thursday together she suggested I take the bus to Jaco. Sorry chica, not gonna happen.

I lost ya here. Are you not interested in taking the bus to Jaco, or did I miss the meaning?

[EDIT] sorry, meant to send as a PM and not a post.

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The Del Rey is old and tired but still the best game in town. Thing is it is not the only game in town. A bad night at the Del Rey beats a good night in Atlanta ten to one. In Atlanta it is always going to cost you more and you will have to settle for less. There are plenty of women at the Del Rey. You just have to take your time and be selective. If you are here on vacation, you buy pu*sy like you buy a shirt. You walk in the store, see six shirts, pick the one you like and settle for what you bought. Most of the time you don't think to go to another store. You don't think, I'm going to buy what I want or nothing at all. You are here on vacation, you have the money to spend and you are going to spend it on something.

I was at the Cocal a month or so ago with BD . We both looked at what was there, and there was plenty to look at, and decided to take nothing, knowing that the best we would have for our money was back in San Jose at an mp. I know for me, it was worth the wait. When you have done this long enough you have a short list of what you know is great and are hesitant to get too excited about trying out new ones.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:51 am 
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I offered to have her come to me in SJ and make sure she was "taken care of" for a full day. No go... but I can bus to Jaco to see her.

I'm not doing that and not overly bothered. Cool chica and we had a couple fun times. She's not a 9 or 10 but obviously is doing better or thinks she'll do better in Jaco than camping out at HDR.

The downward spiral self prepetuates.


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...I offered to have her come to me in SJ and make sure she was "taken care of" for a full day. No go... but I can bus to Jaco to see her.

I'm not doing that and not overly bothered. Cool chica and we had a couple fun times. She's not a 9 or 10 but obviously is doing better or thinks she'll do better in Jaco than camping out at HDR.

ahh .. ok. I thought you WERE going to Jaco to see her, and just had an issue with the busride. I missed the 'her to me' part.

I agree with you. It's not worth it to go there just to see one chica. I have a fav that moved to Puerto Viejo, South of Limon. No way in hell I'd travel there just to see her ... but ... I have never visited that area, so THAT could be a compelling reason to do so.

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