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Two words of advice for you, gentlemen:

MORMON CHICKS.

Really? Please tell us more do you have experience with them? Are you saying they are traditional grateful girls? Do I have to move to Utah though?

Hey Goal I think you can marry as many of those Mormon chicks as you want! (I see Goal searching for airfares to Utah)

Exactly, but should he seriously consider the advice from a mostly non-marriage-atittude group of mongers if he's still on the fence and thinking of staying in his marriage? He obviously has the "grass is greener" fantasy already, and spending time on this site could help push any man over the edge let alone without guys telling him how much marriage sucks, leave the bitch, or just go cheat on her occasionally. And he's actually given no details of what the real problem is with her.

I'll throw in my .02 here- Hey Brandda, I'm sure it's ALL her fault, and of course there's no room for improvement on your end to be a better husband and father... Don't be an idiot and put your boys through the hell of divorce because you think the grass is greener over here, you'll most likely regret it one day.

Once again- I agree there is some great advice and experience posted in this thread, -if this guy's for real, let's just hope it's not his only source...

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Living well is the best revenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

That was my M.O. but it didn't work. My only playland was C.R. I wasn't stupid enough to do it locally for a WIDE variety of reasons. My advice to Brandda is to not even tempt fate with a trip to CR. If the doubts are creeping into the marriage now just think where it will be when he comes back. All of us who have been to CR already know the answer to that question.

Going to CR becomes like eating Lays potato chips..you remember, you can't eat just one. Well, you can't just go to CR once. I've said it once and I'll say it again. The hobby that we participate in is just like drugs, it can be addictive and self destructive. If I told Brandda to go to CR, live it up and forget about everything back in the USA for one week I would feel like the drug dealer outside the elementary school trying hook K*ds on drugs. The dealer knows what the eventual "end game" will be with the K*D. We know the eventual "end game" that Brandda will experience.

Just my dos colones.

dapanz1

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Dpanz,

You are dead on.... I participate on these activities because I chose to. But I have many other friends who are in similar situations and I dont even dare to invite. Your description of this hobby is so accurate is scary.

Personally, I started this a year back with a trip to Rio. I was in same boat as the posters on this thread. I did find that when I came back home my mind was fresh and my tolerance level to deal with the bs at home was lot higher. However, with the third and fourth trip, things changed. My BS tolerance went back to normal levels, and I am now left with an addiction withoout other justification than self gratification (not that there is anything wrong with that ).

I really like going to CR/Rio, now making 8 trips a year....and I will look for ways of going more often. However, it is not something that I would advice a friend to do in order to escape misseries at home.

Just remember that you are dead a lot longer than you are alive. If we don't make the right decisions now, when will we?

ElGamin

Wow, so much here I am not sure where to start.

OK, I was not looking for marriage advice but rather a general feeling for what the guys on this board think about life after marriage. I cannot think of a more relevant subject group for that kind of a question and the responses I have gotten back have been very useful to help me flesh out both sides of the argument.

Mostly I am trying to determine if divorce is worth it considering the fallout, both financial and emotional, which would come from it. I have just about decided that the answer is no it is not worth it for me at this time, but it may become so after the boys have moved out and the wife has a career of her own started (she is in school right now).

The discussion on the addiciton of CR is an interesting one though which I had not considered. I have engaged in P4P for years but usually in the US and on a very limited basis (maybe 10K/year on *******, spas and strippers). Since CR is not readily accessible for me I do not think it would become an addiction but it would be difficult to come and go from there without a whole lot of scrutiny as my business does not take me there. I will have to give that some thought.

I do have one question on the Mormon wives thing. I've never understood why if one wife is such a pain that multiple wives would be any better. Seems to me it would just make a bad situation much worse.

Just one liberated, feminist, money-loving, frigid wife should be enough character growth for one male lifetime. (I'm not bitter, am I?)

I think the modern LDS church frowns on polygamy. I think you have to move to the Wasatch moutains of Utah and raise goats and wives.

Just a thought...

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BTW - Just a quick update.

Day 2 and all is well. She came to bed last night in a negligie with makeup on and took care of business like she has not since we were first married. Brought me breakfast again this morning.

Maybe we should have a pool on how long this will last.

Brandda,
As a veteran monger, but a new CRT VIP Member, I felt compelled to put in my 2 cents.

I am in a very similar situation to you. I've been married for 17 years, 2 k*ds, successful business, house paid for, etc. etc. etc.

I made my 1st trip to CR in June, 2004. It was just supposed to be a normal fishing trip with 5 friends. I was blown away with what I experienced. To make a long story short, since then, I have made 8 more trips to CR in the past 12 months. Dapanz hit the nail on the head when he said " CR is like eating potato chips. Ya can't eat just one". In a single year, I have made 9 trips to CR, started a new Sociedad Anonima (offshore corporation), bought 2 condo's by the beach (which are always rented), opened an account at one of the local CR banks (I'm contemplating buying a 3rd condo), made many friends with some of the local tico/tica's, taken spanish courses at the local community college, and I've got 3 more trips to CR planned for this year (August, October, December)..................... And I've got a GOOD marriage. I can't imagine how hard it must be if you've got a bad marriage.

I've been able to use the condo construction as the major reason for my trips to CR. But sometimes, I tell mi esposa that I have to meet with my attorney (abogado) for business, or I'll tell her that I've got to meet with the property manager, or I've got to bring some checks down there to deposit in the CR account, etc. Whatever I gotta do to get down there!

But, as many of the members have already stated......CR is like a drug. With the situation that you're in, I'm not sure if a trip to CR would help you, or screw you up for the rest of your life. And this is coming from a guy that has never spent any time in SJO. All 9 of my trips were spent in the North / West area of Guanacaste. The clubs and hotels in that area are not as popular as the BM or DR or KL or ZB or SL or any one of the numerous places in SJO, but there's always plenty of tica's, nica's, colombiana's or panamanian's to take care of your every need.

Because of CRT, along with everything that I've been reading on this forum for the past month, I'm actually going to make a layover in SJO on my next trip in August. Besides that, I've got to see if my new CRT VIP Card carries any weight!

Well, I've babbled long enough. I hope I haven't put anyone to sleep.

Basically, Brandda, though I have not experienced it (yet), I know many many people who have gone through divorce. And I've never seen one that went nice. Divorce is hard on everyone involved, especially k*ds.
But I still believe that a good divorce is better than a bad marriage. Buena Suerte, Mi Amigo. You're going to need it. And in closing, I've got to say it one more time.........CR IS LIKE A DRUG! Always remember, watch what you ask for. Ya just might get it!
Mikey B.

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Great post Mikey-B. Now, let me fill you in on something. I'll use another analogy. I have not been to the part of CR that you are accustom to being. Although I have been to several beaches, rainforests, smaller towns and etc..etc.. Here is the comparison. You started out sniffin' a little coca where you are at in CR. When you get to SJ you will be smokin' 100% crack cocaine. Next thing you know you'll be buying properties in SJ instead of the beach communities.

As for the numerous trips to CR, it's almost a contest with some of the guys on here. Who can get down there the most. I'll admit if I were a S.FL guy. It would be at least once a month. But, where I'm at once every 2 to 2.5 months is plenty. Too much travel involved. Also, be careful about getting too caught up in the social scene of CRT. That can also be detrimental to your health.

dapanz1

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good for you Brandda. I hope it works out.

your post is pretty touching and reminds me of two separate conversations I had with two buddies about their really messy divorces. They both told me the same thing:

"you know, in X-years of marriage, I can't remember one time when she ever asked me how my day was...."

Igotubabe2,

You won't find any Mormon polygamists around the Wasatch mountains. The Wasatch range is on the eastern edge of Salt Lake City, and now completely developed for winter sports and tourism, i.e., the last Olympic Winter Games, Park City, etc. However, if you go south to the Arizona border there are a lot of practicing polygamy communities.

I have worked in Utah on many occassions, even though I have a hard time tolerating Mormans (they are more of a Cult than a religion). In Blanding, Utah, just north of Lake Powell, I had to spend a night some time ago. Blanding is about 5,000 population, and I looked in the local telephone book then. Only three last names were predominately listed. They were the Blacks, Reds and Shumways.

If you are a Gentile (the Morman term for non-Morman) they do not want you in Utah, only your $$$; and you should not want to be there either. They still have some of the most screwed up liquor laws of any state in the country. My last trip to Lake Powell, I ordred a beer with my lunch at the Marina (3.2 %), and after lunch I bought two minature scotches at the counter. I was getting ready to pour the scotches in my water glass from lunch, which I had not drank, when the waitress came to the table and informed me that that would be illegal. In Utah it is required to buy a separate drink setup. That was an additional $ 3.00 for another glass of water.

I can tell you a lot more stories about Utah, including the time when a flight that I was on from LA to Denver connected through SLC, and the connection was cancelled until the next morning. Although, the airline would put me up for the night and provide a meal voucher, I rented a car to drive home rather than spend the night in SLC.

I guess this enough of my rambling on Mormans and Utah.

Denver

Qucik update - Day3

So far all is well. She did her hair up last night, put on lingerie again and nailed me to the bed. She has even started wearing perfume again and I noticed that she is eating almost nothing and staring to work out.

Tonight is poker night so this should be a good test to see if she smiles and serves or complains and causes the game to end early.

WTF??? Pictures?