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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:57 pm 
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I love costa rica and i obey there laws if u cant obey the law go home gringos

Hey smart guy, how do you know you don't break the law in CR? Your statement alone could be used as evidence to prosecute you under the same law as they nailed CD.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:58 pm 
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Cuba Dave is being railroaded for talking about an activity that is completely legal. If the Costa Rican law enforcement authorities have a problem with Cuba Dave they should just kick him out of the country. I pray for the the release of Cuba Dave !


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:16 pm 
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MuffRider??

I sympathize with CD's situation; I really do. But if you honestly don't see the difference between the average CRT poster and CD's promotion of the biz, try Googleing MuffRider (click on images) then do the same for Cuba Dave. Hell, Google better than average posters (BangBang57, BashfulDwarf, LAdiablo) with approx 10,000 posts between them. Not one single photo of them with or w/o chicas. There's your example of how this BS law may have been broken.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:02 am 
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I think we all need to remember a couple of things here...

First, Costa Rica has every right to pass its own laws, and a law to try to prevent Costa Rica from being promoted as a sex tourism destination is certainly something they are entitled to do.

Whether it is not consistent with other laws is also their own business. As a non citizen I would not want to comment on it... no more than I would appreciate foreigners criticizing laws in my own country.

I don't think we, as a group, are doing ourselves any favors by some of the comments I have seen on these recent threads. They are being read, of that you can be sure. And by those who wish to totally shut down the whole thing.... most likely in the country of origin of many of the members of this board, as well as in Costa Rica.

We have no business criticizing laws and policies of other countries.


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Nobody is saying that countries don't have the right to set their own laws. However, the laws should be clear and easy to understand, so that they can be followed. This law is so vague that nobody can be sure if they are in violation of it. The other issue is enforcement. Arbitrary/selective enforcement can be thought of as persecution instead of prosecution.


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Nobody is saying that countries don't have the right to set their own laws. However, the laws should be clear and easy to understand, so that they can be followed. This law is so vague that nobody can be sure if they are in violation of it. The other issue is enforcement. Arbitrary/selective enforcement can be thought of as persecution instead of prosecution.

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I think we all need to remember a couple of things here...

First, Costa Rica has every right to pass its own laws, and a law to try to prevent Costa Rica from being promoted as a sex tourism destination is certainly something they are entitled to do.

Whether it is not consistent with other laws is also their own business. As a non citizen I would not want to comment on it... no more than I would appreciate foreigners criticizing laws in my own country.

I don't think we, as a group, are doing ourselves any favors by some of the comments I have seen on these recent threads. They are being read, of that you can be sure. And by those who wish to totally shut down the whole thing.... most likely in the country of origin of many of the members of this board, as well as in Costa Rica.

We have no business criticizing laws and policies of other countries.


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Orange wrote:
Nobody is saying that countries don't have the right to set their own laws. However, the laws should be clear and easy to understand, so that they can be followed. This law is so vague that nobody can be sure if they are in violation of it. The other issue is enforcement. Arbitrary/selective enforcement can be thought of as persecution instead of prosecution.


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Guys don't forget you are looking at this from a US and European perspective... 3rd world countries are 3rd world for a reason. I had a situation in Jaco and luckily was schooled by a very understanding police.


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Agree with the above, I think most of us respect their laws, it is just the vagueness of how it is written that has so many wondering where that line is as nobody wants to cross it. That's the point, all of us don't want to go to prison by violating CR law :!: Somebody sent me a private message and gave me permission to share some other laws that may or may not be known to some of you. Knowledge is better than ignorance:

Slander; There is a law that you can not make allegations against someone.

Verbal Abuse; You should not raise your voice at anyone and especially a woman.

Violence; If a girl lives with you and calls the police and says you have been violent in any way, even verbally, with her. You may be kicked out of your own home until a court date.

Pregnancy; If a girl gets pregnant and says its yours, you may be prevented from leaving the country until dna results are done.


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Guys don't forget you are looking at this from a US and European perspective... 3rd world countries are 3rd world for a reason. I had a situation in Jaco and luckily was schooled by a very understanding police.

"3rd World" simply means countries not siding on the US or communist side of the now-defunct 'Cold War'. That's the reason.

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never really thought of CR as 3rd world having visited countries in much worse shape in SEA
definitely not 1st world but Dwarf is right by definition saying 2nd world is basically a former communist country
but the way 3rd world has been used over the years most think it means poorest of the poor and I don't see CR in that category...

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Orange wrote:
Nobody is saying that countries don't have the right to set their own laws. However, the laws should be clear and easy to understand, so that they can be followed. This law is so vague that nobody can be sure if they are in violation of it. The other issue is enforcement. Arbitrary/selective enforcement can be thought of as persecution instead of prosecution.


I have not read the law, and don't know or have the ability to know how clear it is. I do know that new laws are sometimes enforced only in the most blatant of cases as those who make those decisions want a clear cut case when testing a new law in the courts. Assuming that might be the same in CR.

I do understand a country not wanting to be known as a sex tourist destination. Irrespective of the legality of prostitution. I think Mexico has a similar law. And when prostitution was legal in Canada there was very little advertising of that fact....most Canadians didn't even know. Countries don't want their liberality in this area to attract any attention I suppose.

I agree with the comment...that a clear law is better than a vague one. Hopefully some clarity will come out of this if nothing else. Clarity as to the breadth or scope of the law.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:18 pm 
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Agree with the above, I think most of us respect their laws, it is just the vagueness of how it is written that has so many wondering where that line is as nobody wants to cross it. That's the point, all of us don't want to go to prison by violating CR law :!: Somebody sent me a private message and gave me permission to share some other laws that may or may not be known to some of you. Knowledge is better than ignorance:

Slander; There is a law that you can not make allegations against someone.

Verbal Abuse; You should not raise your voice at anyone and especially a woman.

Violence; If a girl lives with you and calls the police and says you have been violent in any way, even verbally, with her. You may be kicked out of your own home until a court date.

Pregnancy; If a girl gets pregnant and says its yours, you may be prevented from leaving the country until dna results are done.



Very good DonJuan, but we need to remember the CR Slander law has no bearing upon the truthfullness of the allegation. For example, if your maid steals from you and you tell the neighbors that is why you fired her, then she can seek redress in the courts where the punishment can be 30 days in jail. :shock: :shock:

Likewise, verbal abuse of a female and the risks of her accusing you of threatening violence exists whether you live in Costa Rica or just have a Tica visiting you in your hotel. This is one of the reasons that I stay only at Sportsmens where I can just pick up the phone and ask the guards to get her out of my room before any conflict escalates. 8) It's also why I like to buy Jorge, the Barrio Amon Police Chief a beer whenever I see him at the Sportsmens bar. You just never know when you might need a reference or get out of jail free help. :wink: 8)

This is not typically a problem since most of the guys coming to CR are polite and know how to behave themselves. However, with the younger, loudmouth, aggressive guys who are coming more and more today, I will not be at all surprised to hear more stories of police arresting guys in their hotel rooms because of conflicts with the Ticas. :roll: :roll:

I just wonder if the CR Police would be as aggressive if the chica is a Nica or Colombiana. :?:

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I find it strange that the person who started this thread is gone, along with all his posts. The more I think about his posts the more it leads me back to J*****e. The disparaging remarks about Vegas Bob, his insight into the scene with just 6 posts made me wonder. Who knows ? I guess there isn’t enough traffic at T*****D between the 2 posters there?? Are they stirring up shit here?? Admin what happened to the original poster who started this thread??
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