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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:40 pm 
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I don’t post much but this is different. If you go back an read about CD history it all makes sense to me at least. He was a top Soft ball player, he even tells about the times he would walk into a bar and get free drinks or a free steak dinner. He was on top of the world, everyone knew him, hall of fame player, a Star as he says!

Now fast forward, he is currently a 65 year old construction worker with nothing special anymore in his life. The chance to be a star again with guys listing to every word he says, paying him to give advise! He is a star again, the need is so great he willing to risk anything just to have that feeling of being so special. Well he got his stardom but not the way he wanted I am sure.

Unfortunately he is now putting everyone else in a awkward position. Time will only tell what the final word will be, for now just lay low.

I am no physiologist, just the average Joe Blow, but this has been in the back of my head after reading this post and the articles about CD.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:43 pm 
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Hobbie wrote:
He was a top Soft ball player, he even tells about the times he would walk into a bar and get free drinks or a free steak dinner. He was on top of the world, everyone knew him, hall of fame player, a Star as he says!

Is there a Majoe League Softball League that I wasn't aware of? :? :? :? :? :?

He was a star and a celebrity in his own mind before, and still is. And I agree that this led to his legal problems.


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Is there a Majoe League Softball League that I wasn't aware of? :? :? :? :? :?

He was a star and a celebrity in his own mind before, and still is. And I agree that this led to his legal problems.


regardless of his shortcomings Cuba Dave helped many a monger. He has the largest individual following of any monger on the net. Unfortunately for him he has now reached legendary status. Mongers will be talking about the epic saga of Cuba Dave for years to come. Justice for Cuba Dave !


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:02 am 
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Unfortunately for him he has now reached legendary status. Mongers will be talking about the epic saga of Cuba Dave for years to come. Justice for Cuba Dave !

Guys like you are responsible for filling his head with this "monger legend" bullshit. This is what led him to where he is today. In a CR prison that is. He's no legend. He's no different than the average monger. He goes to these places and buys pu*sy. The only exception is that he chose to publicize everything he did there, including telling others where to buy, for how much, and even posting pics of hookers with him (of course--maybe not the smartest move in hindsight).. While the activities he did may be legal (or not illegal- there is a difference), the locals and the governments of these countries do not like the world to know that they are full of foreign men looking to buy cheap pu*sy. This kind of reputation turns off regular tourists and hurts tourism rev. Obviously, being that tourism is usually one of the top (if not the top) revenue source in these places, they will protect it. In this case, lock up a high profile dumbass and the rest of the followers will run for cover and hide. No more facebook pages about cheap sex in CR.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:31 am 
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Good outline for the rationale of this seemingly vague law, its curiously capricious enforcement and the ultimate goal for both....Orange.

Ironically, sex in CR is not cheap at all. Arguably, it is the most expensive in the region, much more so than DR, Colombia and even Panama...not to even mention the lesser developed tourist destinations in the Caribbean, and even Central and South America. Even Thailand and other SEA locations are clearly much less expensive!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:27 am 
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Guys like you are responsible for filling his head with this "monger legend" bullshit. This is what led him to where he is today. In a CR prison that is. He's no legend. He's no different than the average monger. He goes to these places and buys pu*sy. The only exception is that he chose to publicize everything he did there, including telling others where to buy, for how much, and even posting pics of hookers with him (of course--maybe not the smartest move in hindsight).. While the activities he did may be legal (or not illegal- there is a difference),


Orange you are cut from the same cloth as Cuba Dave. Many times in your over 11,000 post you post(write) about the exact same things as Cuba Dave did and did it frequently as your post count indicates. Nobody would argue that you should be prosecuted, or persecuted, under this lame ass law. The only difference between guys like you and Cuba Dave is that he posted pictures of himself and his playmates all over the net. For this he should go to prison? How about just kick him out of the country and tell him never to come back?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:46 am 
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Orange you are cut from the same cloth as Cuba Dave. Many times in your over 11,000 post you post(write) about the exact same things as Cuba Dave did and did it frequently as your post count indicates. Nobody would argue that you should be prosecuted, or persecuted, under this lame ass law. The only difference between guys like you and Cuba Dave is that he posted pictures of himself and his playmates all over the net. For this he should go to prison? How about just kick him out of the country and tell him never to come back?


Tica Dealer you are a little bit right and a whole lot wrong. Yes they post a lot and write about the same subject one on an internet message board the other thru his facebook page and other by social media, blogs ect... Orange does not post pictures of himself, he doesn't sell books or guides, he never had "www.orange.com" , he never gave media interviews and bragged that he does not have to work because he makes $$$ being me. Orange was not kicked out of a country and was never detained by law enforcement authorities and had all of his camera, computer, and cell phone confiscated and inspected by law enforcement.

Look at it this way : Orange and Dave are both at a bar drinking heavily together telling war stories. They both get hammered and it's time for the bar to close and both of them have their cars out in the parking lot . They are both advised not to drive and to take a cab home. Orange does the smart thing and takes a taxi to his house and arrives home safely. Dave, whose been told that there are 2 DUI check points on his route home and advised by everyone in the bar not to drive because he is drunk. In addition Dave has several prior convictions for DUI and should know not to drive. Dave drives anyhow and gets stopped at a DUI check point and arrested. He is transported to the county jail and criminal charges are filed against him. Same thing? They were both drunk but that's where the similarities end.

BTW: I also hope Cuba Dave gets released from custody soon but the feeling in my gut says he will remain incarcerated for a significant period of time.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:50 am 
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Look at it this way : Orange and Dave are both at a bar drinking heavily together telling war stories. They both get hammered and it's time for the bar to close and both of them have their cars out in the parking lot . They are both advised not to drive and to take a cab home. Orange does the smart thing and takes a taxi to his house and arrives home safely. Dave, whose been told that there are 2 DUI check points on his route home and advised by everyone in the bar not to drive because he is drunk. In addition Dave has several prior convictions for DUI and should know not to drive. Dave drives anyhow and gets stopped at a DUI check point and arrested. He is transported to the county jail and criminal charges are filed against him. Same thing? They were both drunk but that's where the similarities end.


Excellent analogy. One guy is managing to stay below the radar while the other one is trying to jam it. There is a big difference between how these two guys conduct themselves.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:56 am 
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Postcount Postscript Newsflash! Orange about to take over the No. 1 poster spot from ol' Irish Drifter (may he rest in peace) :lol: :| :mrgreen:

But Orange is right... Dave is indeed very full of himself, loves being the guy who brings us the info. Unfortunately he also couldnt give a rat's ass about the girls... They were just flesh, not human beings with lives or families.. Nor did he give a passing thought to countries or cultures he played in. Did he ever say much about them other than in regard to the P4P activities? I can't recall much. Many of you understand there is a fundamental difference between english and latina culture in that "saving face" is more important than "the truth" for the latins. The fact that prostitution exists in latin cultures is not the issue. It's not correct to talk about, much less throw it in their face. That's why the law makes sense... To the latin. Dave would never understand this concept, much less respect it. Hence we have the perfect storm for Dave, and he sits in jail. And I suspect CR is quite pleased because if the intent is to have people stop talking about CR as a destination for P4P activities it is surely working. They are not saying don't come and enjoy yourself, they are just saying STFU.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:39 pm 
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....... Dave is indeed very full of himself, loves being the guy who brings us the info. Unfortunately he also couldnt give a rat's ass about the girls... They were just flesh, not human beings with lives or families........They are not saying don't come and enjoy yourself, they are just saying STFU.


Not only the girls he didn't give a rat's ass but most members here. I wonder how many wives, girlfriends, fiancées found out about what happens in CR from CD's websites and YouTube videos?????

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Phoenix Rising wrote:
Postcount Postscript Newsflash! Orange about to take over the No. 1 poster spot from ol' Irish Drifter (may he rest in peace) :lol: :| :mrgreen:

But Orange is right... Dave is indeed very full of himself, loves being the guy who brings us the info. Unfortunately he also couldnt give a rat's ass about the girls... They were just flesh, not human beings with lives or families.. Nor did he give a passing thought to countries or cultures he played in. Did he ever say much about them other than in regard to the P4P activities? I can't recall much. Many of you understand there is a fundamental difference between english and latina culture in that "saving face" is more important than "the truth" for the latins. The fact that prostitution exists in latin cultures is not the issue. It's not correct to talk about, much less throw it in their face. That's why the law makes sense... To the latin. Dave would never understand this concept, much less respect it. Hence we have the perfect storm for Dave, and he sits in jail. And I suspect CR is quite pleased because if the intent is to have people stop talking about CR as a destination for P4P activities it is surely working. They are not saying don't come and enjoy yourself, they are just saying STFU.

Saving face is equally important anywhere you go
Pretty sure most of us have been involved in activities we wouldn't exactly be proud of in the past
Imagine someone taking pictures and posting it on the internet for everyone to see forever
With his shit eating smile next to you
Don't doubt he was a source of info for guys but come on lets use some common sense

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Great analogy Loco Mike. Guys that go on and on about how successful they are at getting laid in Costa Rica are the same guys who can't get laid in the states.. When my friends ask me about Costa Rica I tell them come with me if you want to see otherwise let's not talk about it. Cuba Dave talked about these women as if they were a lower life form. While I don't think he should be in prison, he was targeted for good reason. Go to CR have a good time respect the women and the country and you will not have a problem. IMHO


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:20 am 
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grimeswilliam wrote:
I am not at all reluctant to visit CR and hobby, just as before. But I am damn sure not going to post anything online regarding the girls / places. I might even be sure there are no locals around when I talk shop at SL or LA. It is a shame that theses hypocrite bastards are so concerned about protecting a facade. I am sure many of the shot callers visit these girls, as well.

Again, it's not about the scene / industry / whatever. It's about one guy that became the poster Ch*ld for sex tourism in their country. He pissed them off, it was personal (from their point of view), and they wanted to make an example of him. I do not doubt the law was crafted with his sites specifically in mind.

Many of us have posted trip reports, and never profited from them as CD has. However this law does not mention profiting (as is considered a 'pimping law'). So we should refrain from 'advertising' the destination as did CD until we know how this will play out.


Bashful, I had the same exact thoughts. To me it is almost as if they wrote this law in response to Cuba Dave. Why else would they? Unless a bunch of assholes come in and start doing the same shit I think we'll all be fine. I'm still amazed at the sentence. Minimum 4 YEARS in prison. Jesus, I'd take some water boarding and some hot pokers in the balls over that. Phuck. I hope he can make a plea deal he certainly doesn't deserve that sentence. We'll see I guess. The next step will be msnbc or Fox news picking up the story...and there goes the neighborhood folks! At that point it will become about "the scene".


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:04 pm 
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Yep. That's my prediction too donjuan. If CD is not released soon, the U.S. Embassy will have no choice but to weigh in with our gov'ts interpretation of this untested and precident setting law. And if this mess ends up with a trial and 4+ year sentence, then it will definately make US national news. American citizen arrested and convicted in CR for exercising his free speech rights from his home in Florida. A debate in and of itself, but as you said it will certainly role over into the juicier topic and discussion of the whole ST industry in general. And if it gets to that level on prime time news for a few nights in a row? Guys with wives and girlfriends will need to become a whole lot more creative than the usual "going fishing and whitewater rafting". Wives and girlfriends will suddenly become interested in fishing, rafting, golfing, dental work, etc and will want to tag along. Win-win for the tourist industry, Jjj.

Also has anyone else noticed the rapid expansion of the Bachelor Party business over the last year or so in Jaco? They will also take a big hit if exposed for being what they really are. San Jose is a large city with diverse industries and millions of people. The ST industry is mainly concealed in and around the gulch, not so much in the face of general tourism and Tico families. But yet it appears to be raising big concern for some politicians. Jaco's only industry is tourism, and mainly general tourism. Many Tico families visit Jaco on weekends, especially holiday weekends; it's the closest beach to San Jose. IMHO the increase of BP business in Jaco with packs of young drunken gringos plowing the streets and beaches day and night has surely got to be catching the attention of the political elites as well. I can easily see Cocal being next on the chopping block. And isn't Cocal owned by Americans?


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