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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:23 pm 
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Let's see...a "pro" cost $30-$80 and a semi-promo cost $300. I bet a non-pro cost $500+. :mrgreen: :roll:



Very very funny - great line! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :)

I do know what Cool is saying (BB and BD too for that matter), but when you start getting into all the "definitions" it just gest crazy :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Or as my friend in Costa Rica says......They are all Bitches and Ho's. I've had both. I prefer Ho's. :roll: 8) :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:49 pm 
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the term 'Pro' doesn't really work in these situations. Michael Jordan is still considered a 'Pro' even in retirement.

Full-time puta vs Part-Time puta seems to make more sense. A chica can bounce between these definitions depending upon whether a majority of her money comes from prostitution.

As a side note, I am sure Costa Rica has it's share of sluts that do not need the money, but take it all the same. There's a girl here in SFL that hits the clubs nightly looking for a new guy. If she settles on an over 40, she expects him to cough up a couple of hundred ... yet she does the young guys for no cost. Her day job pays the bills.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 11:44 pm 
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I don't care about pros and semipros and nonworking chicas as long as I get laid and price is fair. Why are you all even discussing that ? its beyond me..
I am getting laid this weekend in SJ after 2 months starvation. Last gringa was 39 year old muslim ( yep hard to believe )married and her fat husband had ED...I got lucky. So we met online and then she called me concealing her caller id (smart beyatch huh) . I drove 70 miles ,went to Quality inn and did her. Poor fat hubby was at work. Her weight kinda turned me off. Face was cute indeed. Didn't use rubber nor did she insisted. pu*sy was tight and moist though. She came twice lol.
Found couple more on Ashley Madison website. Kinda pathetic but currently talking to 50 year married gringa from Ashley madison who is interested in fwb situation. I know that banging married women is seriously a bad karma but my ex-wife cheated on me and this is how I deal with it. Don't care anymore.
I recommend AM for finding local married/ attached gringas. I don't work for that website. Hell, I spent 120 bucks renewing credits
Dwarf ... I am still counting on your expert advice this weekend. :)


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:01 am 
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Dwarf ... I am still counting on your expert advice this weekend. :)

then you'll be let down, 'cause I don't have any. I rely on the vets down there to help keep me out of trouble. I have spent all of a month in CR over the past 10 months, and I haven't been there for 5 months. So everything I 'know' has changed.

Trust me when I tell you that every single trip is a learning experience.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:15 am 
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Sorry my friend but your definition of "PRO" and mine (and I think, most people)

Well, yes, when most people hear "pro" they hear "pro athlete". We are on a monger forum. Definitions vary. You don't want to bring "most people" into this.

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The first time she receives compensation, she has placed herself in the position of being a prostitute (puta) -someone who is compensated for sex. She may never do it again but she is/was still a prostitute.


Yeah that's not how the English language works. The word prostitute is a noun describing someone "who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse especially for money". Implied in that definition is the continued engaging in said promiscuous sexual intercourse. If it happened only once you may use the word "prostituted" as a transitive verb as in "She prostituted herself that one time when she received $1000 in exchange for sex" and so on but it would be inaccurate, ungrammatical, and a style error to refer to the one-timer woman in your example as a "prostitute".

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I am not sure just how one can be "partly" a puta.


Well, let me enlighten you. Let's use the example of this lingerie model I was banging a few months ago. She had a really plastic body which would normally be a turn off for me but it just happened to work on her. Gigantic fake ass, even bigger fake boobs and a perfectly flat stomach with fake blonde hair. I would almost dismiss her as a parody of a barbie doll but when she walks around in lingerie no man can avoid getting a boner. She appeals to very primal instincts especially when only partially clothed. I approached her after this lingerie show a friend had dragged me to. We talked for a few minutes and I invited her for drinks the next day. Note that my friend knew this girl to the extent that another gentleman we both know had previously approached her for a strict pay for play deal after a similar show and she got quite pissed and threatened to call security. So I thought I would likely need to wine and dine this girl to get in her pants. However when she showed up for the "date" wearing a dress that left little to the imagination I was a bit dazed and sorta confused but I was having trouble thinking straight as you might imagine. Well, 5 minutes into the "date" she kissed me and and whispered "I know what you want so you want to get out of here?". At that point I pulled myself together and basically artfully asked her how much? She goes "I like you, $250". I didn't argue. Off we went. Once the deed was done and we were sitting in bed talking I asked her if she met a lot of "suitors" at her events and she said "some, but I only entertain them if they approach me the right way, like you did. If you can't behave yourself I'll kick your ass out real quick". What she meant to say was she doesn't appreciate direct approaches like our idiot pal who went up to her and actually offered $400 (nearly twice as much as what I paid) for "sexo hoy despeus". Now, was money exchanged? Yes. Was it ANYTHING like a "MP session"? No. Did she prostitute herself that day and several times after that? Yes. Is she a prostitute? No, because that is not her profession. In fact, I had to stop seeing her when she told me (after 4 "dates") that she was doing quite well with the modeling thing right now and needed no more money and wanted to stop the pay for play and switch to a standard BF-GF thing. She did reiterate that if she ever needed cash she'd just come to me and as her boyfriend she hoped I would "help her out". I hate that sort of thing on many levels because I don't want to be on the hook for some unforeseen figure down the road when her Grandma is hospitalized or whatever. Besides, I cannot do that anyway because I would then have to be more accessible as her boyfriend and Latinas don't get wife boundaries. I have already tried this experiment before with disastrous results so I stopped calling her and basically disappeared. She only had my email and kept emailing me for a week or so but I basically said goodbye and stopped responding after awhile. Besides, my interest had waned already because 4-5 times is usually the most I can see a woman anyway before I'm done with her.

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BUT, SHE STILL sees me and about 8-9 other long time regulars (for money)!! Yes, she was a PRO and she still is a PRO!!!


A lady with a standard list of 9 "regular" johns is a prostitute no doubt. The girls I am talking about don't fit the bill.

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You said you "have not banged an all out pro in years"???

A figure of speech but it has been a while. At least none this year. There were some last year if memory serves.

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Since you say you do not go to places like the REY

I have been to the Del Rey on many occasions so it is not as if I've never seen the inside of it. In fact I visited last year with a friend from out of town who had heard much about the place (who was also pretty sorely disappointed with the talent once he got there, him being used to Vegas *******). Considering the lingerie model story I just told you do you find it likely that a girl this finicky would find herself in the Rey offering sex to any Tom, Dick & Harry for $100? If you believe that then no further rational discussion can be had with you on this topic.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:59 am 
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...If it happened only once you may use the word "prostituted" as a transitive verb as in "She prostituted herself that one time when she received $1000 in exchange for sex" and so on but it would be inaccurate, ungrammatical, and a style error to refer to the one-timer woman in your example as a "prostitute".


Would it be "inaccurate, ungrammatical, and a style error" to call a one-time murderer a Murderer? After all, he stopped after just one? Some titles are earned for life. If a woman sells her body for money, then she has become a prostitute. She may stop at some point, but she would always be referred to one in the past tense, and quite possibly in the present tense as well.

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...She goes "I like you, $250".


CG, if she has a price already decided, this would surely meet the 'prostitute (n)' definition.

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A lady with a standard list of 9 "regular" johns is a prostitute no doubt. The girls I am talking about don't fit the bill.


Sounds a bit "in denial" ish ... but TEHO.

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This definitional thingie can get real deep, real quick, even if we confine the term "prostitute" to sexual prostitute. Women in history have risen to high positions by being one, though the usual terms were courtesan or alternate wife. Though not often thought of this way, Jesus' staunchest friend/girlfriend (some even say his common-law wife) was a prostitute. Knowing this can take a bit of the sting out of the term.

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This definitional thingie can get real deep, real quick, even if we confine the term "prostitute" to sexual prostitute. Women in history have risen to high positions by being one, though the usual terms were courtesan or alternate wife.

these are not prostitutes. Many were bred for the positions. Unless you want to fall back on the old "all women are prostitutes" argument.

It should be rather easy on a monger board to arrive at a mutual understanding of what a prostitute is, whether she uses it as her sole income, or as an occasional income buffer.

It's the whole 'Pro vs non-Pro' topic ... that seems to come from personal experiences and opinions. If we leave 'Prostitute' as a class, and refute sub-classing, then we should be able to get along just fine.

Additionally, as for the 'present vs past' aspect ... if she has your wanker in her mouth and a hand on your money, then the present tense " is " fits correctly. Once the deed be done, she is no longer an " is " ... but has become a " was " ... until the next customer comes along ... (at which she may be a " will be ", but that is an entirely different argument!).

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Would it be "inaccurate, ungrammatical, and a style error" to call a one-time murderer a Murderer?

There's a sort of "finality" involved with a murder. Someone is dead. I hope you're not saying prostituting yourself rises to the level of a murder?

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Some titles are earned for life.

So if I go to my backyard and hit a few balls with a baseball bat should I now be referred to as a "pro" baseball player. Look at the term that started this little tiff. It is "pro". A contraction of PROFESSIONAL.

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CG, if she has a price already decided, this would surely meet the 'prostitute (n)' definition.

This particular girl I mentioned was to explain what a "semi-pro" was. The question was "How can someone just be a half whore?" or something along those lines. A hooters waitress or the 19 year old gringa I'm seeing these days for instance need to have long discussions about the "arrangement" as they don't have anything figured out when approached by me.

I mean I've banged so many of these random chicks over the years who get hooked up with me for specific reasons. "I have a big college party coming up, need a new dress & shoes". "I need a few hundred more to finally buy my car". "Got robbed, need to make my mortgage payment". "I own a little store and my employee stole from me and can't make rent this month, don't wanna lose the store" etc etc.

These are just girls needing a few hundred in cash to get past some event in their lives. To define them as "pros" removes any meaning from the word.


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I was not going to respond again to all this bull crap! BUT Coolguy you just keep digging yourself in deeper!! You are like a couple of other guys I know who live here that just can not admit thay have sex for money with PUTAS and will go to any extreme to justify their reasoning!!

A prostitute is a prostitute and since she is doing it for money, she is a "PRO". It makes no difference whether it was one time in the past, something she only does occasionally, something she only does with selected men, nor whether it is her primary or only source of income, nor if she does it every day, SHE STILL IS A "PROFESSIONAL PROSTITUTE!! period, for now and forever!!!! Semi-pro is a term that has been used often by mongers to refer to a "PRO" who only does it part time. Being a prostitute is not something she can turn off and on!!! She either is or was (in the past) a prostitute. Your comment trying to defend what you do says to me and others that you are (like my other 2 friends) just grasping at straws trying every way possible to deny that you have sex with prostitutes. I will give you this thou: some of your comments concerning what I and others have said are really very comical!!!! totally laughable!!!!!

Enough said! No one will ever change you nor make you realize the fallacy in your rationalizing of what you do, and you will never make us believe in your rationalization of the facts!!! I really think there are some people that the only way they can live with themselves is to rationalize away what they do!! I know this is the case with my other two friends!!

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By the way, I really think the term "semi-pro comes from back in the 30s-40s-early 50s when minor league baseball players usually had a full time regular job and plays ball on week ends and at night. I know back in the 40s in my home town I use to go to minor league games with my dad and everyone refered to the players as "semi-pro"! Thus putas who have a "regular" job and only work as a puta part time when they need extra money are called "semi-pro"! But they are still "PROS!!!

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Your comment trying to defend what you do says to me and others that you are (like my other 2 friends) just grasping at straws trying every way possible to deny that you have sex with prostitutes.

I have NO trouble with having sex with prostitutes. I'm on a monger forum aren't I? When I'm in Vegas I regularly bang ******* who are of course full on pros. BUT these things are important to me :

1. No-rush of any kind. If I'm hungry and wanna do dinner first we do that.
2. No mention of money is to be made during the session.
3. Sex should be intense and the girl CAN'T be going through the motions.
4. Girl needs to be a 9-10, must be dressed appropriately (as if she was going on a photo shoot for a modeling job).
5. Stuff like BBBJ is implied. Don't even bring up CBJ. If you do, I say no once and that must be the end of that discussion.

There isn't a single girl in the HDR on most nights that will fulfill all 5 criteria and there certainly isn't one in any MP (I've seen em, talk from experience). So while you may find that fact "hilarious", "bullcrap" or whatever adjective you want to attach to it facts never care. They're just facts. They exist whether you accept them or not.


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... BUT these things are important to me :

1. No-rush of any kind. If I'm hungry and wanna do dinner first we do that.
2. No mention of money is to be made during the session.
3. Sex should be intense and the girl CAN'T be going through the motions.
4. Girl needs to be a 9-10, must be dressed appropriately (as if she was going on a photo shoot for a modeling job).
5. Stuff like BBBJ is implied. Don't even bring up CBJ. If you do, I say no once and that must be the end of that discussion.

There isn't a single girl in the HDR on most nights that will fulfill all 5 criteria ...

I like your criteria, and I agree no HDR girl has the time for that 'crap'. I find the SL girls do, in fact, have time for this 'crap', and are a lot more fun to hang out with.

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A prostitute is a prostitute and since she is doing it for money, she is a "PRO".

hold on a sec ... " since she is doing [sex] for money, she is a 'Prostitute'. ". Are you saying all prostitutes are pros?

That would make the words synonyms. And then a semi-Pro would be a semi-Prostitute. And I am not sure what that would exactly mean.

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