Smelvis wrote:
Well I am an ex smoker but love my cigars, I will likely spend very little time in places I can't smoke them. I have always tried my best to be a polite cigar smoker but some can not be pleased ever. Speaking of dumb dumbs I IMHO believe they are those who buy into the never proven second hand smoke kills theory. I do think it may hurt people in small tight area's without ventilation but I have been in casinos that their systems are so good I could smoke a cigar five feet away from you and you wouldn't hardly know it.
Oh well always one way or the other why can we never compromise and leave it up to the business owners, Nothing wrong with hiring smokers the laws that exist are silly. In the states the amount of tax revenue that is being lost at an ever growing rate will have to be replaced by someone, maybe non smokers can finally pay some sin taxes on something
Man the first trip after this will be interesting I guess I had better start doing research my retirement is April 6th at 51 I am pretty damn happy and raring to go

Amen - boy are we in lock step on this issue (and likely a few others

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Obsevations:
*You can certainly make the "restraint of trade" arguement
*Offering a choice allows customers to make the choice, not government - many would never go into a "smoking" res't or bar and that's fine - their choice
*Gov LOVES collecting the taxes on tobacco
*The air cleaning technology exists today to allow both smokers and non to be accomodated
* According to Lew Rothman, head of JR Tobacco - One 747 flying NY to LA puts more pollution into the air than all the cigars smoked in that year
* Any organization opposing tobacco wants it totally banned and does not seek any accomodation with those who smoke
*I'm a cigar guy - and if you knew ( like Smelvis knows - and likely a few others ) how they are made, aged, et al (And how the vast majority of smokers use them - not inhaling, 1-2 a day - hell good ones are expensive - who can afford more than 2/day?)- and how they are a natural product; zero chemicals (unlike cigaretts) - and the art, science and history - well you might have a tad more sympathy (Yeah, I know - you still hate the way the damn things smell

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You might not want to eat out a cunt after a weeks period with no washing or douching - but others might and that should be their right
I'm not a huge "domino theory" guy - smoking bans have little or nothing to do with legal (or as ID once replied to me - not illegal prostitution in CR

) prostitution - however, every nanny state initive just takes a little of our freedoms away.