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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:16 am 
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It's sad to see Boise State get screwed every year. Imo, they've been the most dominant team in college football over the last 10 years. Every year they prove all of the doubters wrong, but still don't get the respect that they deserve. Money is the only thing the NCAA cares about, that's why the BCS selected an inferior Michigan & Virgina Tech team over them. At least next year, they'll have a chance of an automatic BCS bid by moving to the Big East. I wish the NCAA would just ditch the BCS for a playoff system. A playoff is the only way to determine which team is truly the best, otherwise it's always going to be debatable.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:56 pm 
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Let me explain about players from the south, IMO most would prefer to play defense. Only a select few players get to touch the football on the Offense. 4.3 to 4.6 speed required. Most offensive linemen wish they had the speed to play on the defensive side of the ball. Normally offensive linemen are the biggest and the slowest. They would prefer to tackle somebody, not back up and protect a QB.The Offensive line get no glory. Now on the other hand everyone on the defense has a shot at the ball and they love to be really aggressive and yes they get the glory also if they dominate. Defense win Championships that is a proven fact. Rarely will you see a team in the south where the defense is not more dominate than the offense. I base my opinion by being closely associated football programs for the last twenty years. The advancement in teaching and training a high school football player is amazing to say the least at this day in time. Especially if it is a nationally recognized school. Money and facilities are of no problem. Indoor practice field, $2 million dollar field houses . Contracted Professional weight trainers.Filming and player evaluation on a daily basis. A coaching staff of 12 coaches. You name it they have it.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:05 pm 
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If they had a non-choking kicker they would have a greater argument....for two years in a row.

The NCAA is actually lucky that Boise blew the TCU game because the LSU opponent next week would otherwise be very controversial.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:03 pm 
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59Vette wrote:
Let me explain about players from the south, IMO most would prefer to play defense. Only a select few players get to touch the football on the Offense. 4.3 to 4.6 speed required. Most offensive linemen wish they had the speed to play on the defensive side of the ball. Normally offensive linemen are the biggest and the slowest. They would prefer to tackle somebody, not back up and protect a QB.The Offensive line get no glory. Now on the other hand everyone on the defense has a shot at the ball and they love to be really aggressive and yes they get the glory also if they dominate. Defense win Championships that is a proven fact.

I guess I just have a problem with your wording. You say "prefer".

Now I'm not associated with any football programs but I'm pretty sure that QB, RB and receivers' jersey are the most purchased by fans (and K*ds are certainly part of that)

You didn't mention a 300 pound guy in your original post. That 300 pound guy you're referring to isn't about to play wide receiver, RB or QB. If you're referring to that guy then I can certainly believe he would prefer to be a defensive linemen than an offensive one.

And yes, as you said, only a few select people get to touch (take care of) the football but that's a matter of physical stature and skill, not preference. Who wouldn't want to be Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Arian Foster ? :D

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:00 pm 
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59vette said " Money and facilities are of no problem. Indoor practice field, $2 million dollar field houses . Contracted Professional weight trainers.Filming and player evaluation on a daily basis. A coaching staff of 12 coaches. You name it they have it."

With money tight for schools I sure glad the school boards have their priority straight :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And how many times can a K*D be red shirted in grade school. JR high and High school before he has to pretend to graduate :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:11 am 
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Most of the money comes from private sources. They supplement coaches salaries and the tax base in our county is higher than most. Education is not put on back burner, tutors are available. Granted many players that are division one capable are illiterate. That is by choice and their parents social ignorance. Football is a priority in the South. Most of the truly gifted players play in 6A Schools.Where the competition is the greatest and if you excel you will be offered a scholarship. Texas is also known to have quality high school football programs. I do not know about their academics. Social promotion will never be stopped as long as there is affirmative action and the lowering of our educational standards . There is an age limit for players for high school. I believe it is 19, I remember a student not being able to play his senior year. Our area normally will have one team ranked in top ten in nation and another from 11-20th. Our school district has built about 10 new campuses in the last eight years. Like I said money does not seem to be a problem. Julio Jones, Robert Lester and D.J. Fluker recent players from my son's school . Kenny "the snake" Stabler is probably most famous alumni. Trent Richardson was some competition from neighboring school.. This year coming up will be another player T.J .Yelding . 5 star running back just committed to Alabama. The income from just high school games is substantial. No it may not pay for everything ,


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:06 pm 
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It's sad to see Boise State get screwed every year. Imo, they've been the most dominant team in college football over the last 10 years. Every year they prove all of the doubters wrong, but still don't get the respect that they deserve. Money is the only thing the NCAA cares about, that's why the BCS selected an inferior Michigan & Virgina Tech team over them. At least next year, they'll have a chance of an automatic BCS bid by moving to the Big East. I wish the NCAA would just ditch the BCS for a playoff system. A playoff is the only way to determine which team is truly the best, otherwise it's always going to be debatable.

Respect! Well when they play a schedule that consists of teams who posess the talent found in the major conferences they will get respect. Playing Whataamattyou and Muyak State nine out of ten games does not get you respect. And after all the whinning year and and year out what do they do join the Big East! Give me a break. 8)


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It's sad to see Boise State get screwed every year. Imo, they've been the most dominant team in college football over the last 10 years. Every year they prove all of the doubters wrong, but still don't get the respect that they deserve. Money is the only thing the NCAA cares about, that's why the BCS selected an inferior Michigan & Virgina Tech team over them. At least next year, they'll have a chance of an automatic BCS bid by moving to the Big East. I wish the NCAA would just ditch the BCS for a playoff system. A playoff is the only way to determine which team is truly the best, otherwise it's always going to be debatable.

Respect! Well when they play a schedule that consists of teams who posess the talent found in the major conferences they will get respect. Playing Whataamattyou and Muyak State nine out of ten games does not get you respect. And after all the whinning year and and year out what do they do join the Big East! Give me a break. 8)

Certainly some truth in that but the Big East IS a step up.

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Respect! Well when they play a schedule that consists of teams who posess the talent found in the major conferences they will get respect. Playing Whataamattyou and Muyak State nine out of ten games does not get you respect. And after all the whinning year and and year out what do they do join the Big East! Give me a break. 8)


Who else wanted them? I do not remember any other conference with an automatic BCS berth inviting Boise State. They were fortunate that the Big East was so desperate for teams to fill the defections that they extended an invitation. It is a step up for Boise State and if they can due well there it might lead to bigger things in the future. Florida State, Miami, Boston College, Syracuse, West Virginia & Pittsburgh were all in the Big East at one time or another.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:33 am 
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[quote] Florida State, Miami, Boston College, Syracuse, West Virginia & Pittsburgh were all in the Big East at one time or another.[/quote

actually, Florida St. was never in the Big East; they were an indy for many years before joining the ACC

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Florida State, Miami, Boston College, Syracuse, West Virginia & Pittsburgh were all in the Big East at one time or another.[/quote

actually, Florida St. was never in the Big East; they were an indy for many years before joining the ACC


You are correct. My mind said Virginia Tech and my fingers typed Florida State. :oops: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:28 am 
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Florida State had many opportunities to join SEC . They did not want to become whipping boys of SEC. They had rather win 10 games a years and get a bowl game. Florida was their major rival and Florida state only had one or two challenging games a year. Florida was not as dominate as in they have been the past few years. Boise State's move to the big east is probably a step up. Has a team out of the big east ever won a national championship? If so was it in the last forty years. I still do not see them getting any respect by this move.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:14 pm 
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Florida State had many opportunities to join SEC . They did not want to become whipping boys of SEC. They had rather win 10 games a years and get a bowl game. Florida was their major rival and Florida state only had one or two challenging games a year. Florida was not as dominate as in they have been the past few years. Boise State's move to the big east is probably a step up. Has a team out of the big east ever won a national championship? If so was it in the last forty years. I still do not see them getting any respect by this move.

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59Vette wrote:
Florida State had many opportunities to join SEC . They did not want to become whipping boys of SEC. They had rather win 10 games a years and get a bowl game. Florida was their major rival and Florida state only had one or two challenging games a year. Florida was not as dominate as in they have been the past few years. Boise State's move to the big east is probably a step up. Has a team out of the big east ever won a national championship? If so was it in the last forty years. I still do not see them getting any respect by this move.


Easy there on your FSU "facts". Truth is FLORIDA did not and does not want FSU in the SEC. Before the Noles joined the ACC in '92 they were the team the SEC wanted, but Florida, Alabama and Auburn wanted no part of it. The decision? That powerhouse of a program called South Carolina!! :lol: :lol:

Is the SEC the best conference in football? YES. Are they completely full of themselves? YES :D

Someone else mentioned Boise St. as the most dominant team in the last 10 years? C'Mon Man! (sorry Chris Carter) They are a nice story but the only reason they are dominant is the dogshit schedule they play. They will get the national respect they want only when they play in a real conference.

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