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Not sure if any of this makes sense, but as long as guys pay top dollar for a chica who would otherwise be way out of their league, this will exist. :idea: :idea:



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Ha ha.... I wish I had heard that instead of read it. Funny shit, I can appreciate that kind of wit... :)

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I see your point Cujo.
If the feelings of friendship or what ever you wanna call it are growing, and both are enjoying it, that should compensate for the gradual reduction in price, which in theory could go to $0 at some point in the future.


Theoretically speaking, you are correct. After a while, every time you session you would not pay 1 colone.

But chica theory has a postulate. When xx + xy approaches 0, you have have achieved novia status, therefore direct payment (Z) = 0 and indirect payment (all other variables) approach infinity. This theory only holds true on the planet Venus (in case you look it up in some abstract mathematics book). :)

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I'm a nice guy, fat kinda boring have no game and really dislike the word, mostly think it is overused and ranks of chest thumping. (no offense intended)

Yet I almost always have a blast. The one and only time I paid cien, price was not discussed as I was going from an introduction from a friend and took a chance. I usually spend two hours or more with this Lady and sometimes go to dinner, she is classy and very much rocks my world. I have and will continue to pay cien with her even though sometime she tries to give me part of it back.

I will not or have not yet at least paid that to anyone else, why because it is bad for us all in general and before my first trip it was just about rule one. I am not out only for myself and believe in the reason for this site, to help and take care of each other while phucking young women who usually wouldn't give us the time of day in the U.S.

Shit maybe I do have game and it's in my wallet.

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I'm a nice guy, fat kinda boring have no game and really dislike the word, mostly think it is overused and ranks of chest thumping. (no offense intended)

Yet I almost always have a blast. The one and only time I paid cien, price was not discussed as I was going from an introduction from a friend and took a chance. I usually spend two hours or more with this Lady and sometimes go to dinner, she is classy and very much rocks my world. I have and will continue to pay cien with her even though sometime she tries to give me part of it back.

I will not or have not yet at least paid that to anyone else, why because it is bad for us all in general and before my first trip it was just about rule one. I am not out only for myself and believe in the reason for this site, to help and take care of each other while phucking young women who usually wouldn't give us the time of day in the U.S.

Shit maybe I do have game and it's in my wallet.

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I have read this (and other) threads thoroughly (now I am serious). I believe the overall message is "you don't necessarily have to pay cien to have a good time with a lady, anywhere, any lady".

For example:
If you pay a bit more or less at the boat slip when your vessel is right next to mine, or you may have a spot all the way in front and pay double, oar (not misspelled) all the way at the end and pay half, we are all on the same lake, worry about your boat. Just remember, the space is leased.

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Not sure if any of this makes sense, but as long as guys pay top dollar for a chica who would otherwise be way out of their league, this will exist.



Bingo!!!!!
I think this is really the key point. Everyone on this site is different for whatever reasons. We all have different tastes and looks. We all attract different types of women. So if someone meets someone he feels he would never pull on his own, he might be more willing to use the great equalizer....money... to be with her. This is where things get touchy because if given the choice of lets say 3 mongers she likely will be more willing to take less to be with someone she is more attracted. Now attraction could be looks, personality, money etc. It depends on which is more important to the chica at the time i guess. This fact could lead to some contempt towards the chica, but I respect this. I mean I think we all do this to some extent, but as men we tend to value the other things more than money. We all have lowered our standards at one time or another. I remember having to just have some pu**y at one time or another but only a less attractive lady friend was present. In this situation my cien was Patron. I drank enough Patron and then she instantly was more than doable. I think I actually enjoyed it :o :?


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Dean wrote:
...I believe the overall message is "you don't necessarily have to pay cien to have a good time with a lady, anywhere, any lady".

Ding, Ding, Ding ! We have a winner !!! Five pages of discussion, and IMO Dean summed it up in one little sentence! :wink:

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I would say talk to the CRT gentleman when you are down there and point out girls you like (in this case, it is not so impolite to point). Get the scoop and then decide.


Good advice. With the number of members who are going to be in the house the last weekend in August, I should get some info on most chicas. 8)


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Dean wrote:
I would say talk to the CRT gentleman when you are down there and point out girls you like (in this case, it is not so impolite to point). Get the scoop and then decide.


Good advice. With the number of members who are going to be in the house the last weekend in August, I should get some info on most chicas. 8)


Nola.... Yes, you'll get solid information from many CRT brothers, but please remember:

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Just because a couple guys have had stellar experiences with a given girl, it's no guarantee that you will, too. There are a thousand or more variables that will affect the quality of your sessions. Recommendations and intel are strictly starting points.

SMellvis (BTW, love your screen name!), I dislike the term "game'" when it amounts to chest-thumping. I think that most guys here using the term mean something like "knowledge of women, a bit of psychology, self-confidence and (maybe) the ability to communicate." Nothing more.

Cujo's is a handsome devil who speaks flawless Spanish and is younger than I. These three facts don't give him "game." What gives him game IMO is his ability to relax and be "normal," to treat the girls like they're valuable but not indispensable, and to communicate to the girls that they need to act more like civilian chicas than whores if they want to hang with him.

Pacifica55 uses a somewhat different tack, including a "system" of sorts that he has refined over some forty years of dating.

"Game" isn't something magical, nor is it standardized in any way. Yes, there are universals, including staying relaxed and confident... but everyone's M.O. will vary by person and by situation.

From what you've written, your game isn't all in your wallet. You may have "game" and not even know it...many guys do. :D

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El Ciego wrote:
Nola504 wrote:
Dean wrote:
I would say talk to the CRT gentleman when you are down there and point out girls you like (in this case, it is not so impolite to point). Get the scoop and then decide.


Good advice. With the number of members who are going to be in the house the last weekend in August, I should get some info on most chicas. 8)


Nola.... Yes, you'll get solid information from many CRT brothers, but please remember:

Y
M
M
V.

Just because a couple guys have had stellar experiences with a given girl, it's no guarantee that you will, too. There are a thousand or more variables that will affect the quality of your sessions. Recommendations and intel are strictly starting points.

SMellvis (BTW, love your screen name!), I dislike the term "game'" when it amounts to chest-thumping. I think that most guys here using the term mean something like "knowledge of women, a bit of psychology, self-confidence and (maybe) the ability to communicate." Nothing more.

Cujo's is a handsome devil who speaks flawless Spanish and is younger than I. These three facts don't give him "game." What gives him game IMO is his ability to relax and be "normal," to treat the girls like they're valuable but not indispensable, and to communicate to the girls that they need to act more like civilian chicas than whores if they want to hang with him.

Pacifica55 uses a somewhat different tack, including a "system" of sorts that he has refined over some forty years of dating.

"Game" isn't something magical, nor is it standardized in any way. Yes, there are universals, including staying relaxed and confident... but everyone's M.O. will vary by person and by situation.

From what you've written, your game isn't all in your wallet. You may have "game" and not even know it...many guys do. :D


I agree substantially with the above post. However, when saying "YMMV", a lot of guys insist that it really means "YMWV" (Your Mileage Will Vary), meaning every guy will always have a substantially different experience with a given chica - and this I don't think is really the case.

I believe about 90% or more of the providers out there fall into any of several categories. Some are really amazing, seem to like sex a lot, and put maximum effort and enthusiasm into the experience, others are a bit indifferent and usually offer a decent but not totally mind-blowing time, others simply try to do the minimum required, a few are outright ripoff artists. Yes, they're still women of course - with all the complexity and unpredictability that entails - but never forget that they're working - in the end they're just doing a job.

To cite an example of the first category, you can take a girl like former Krysis/ZB girl Kristina. Rarely if ever has anyone reported a bad experience with her - indeed most guys are blown away and repeat at will. There are others like her of course, but this will do for the purpose of this post.

This brings to light my main point - everything being equal, there will be less variation in the results a group of mongers will get with a particular provider than the results a particular monger will get with a group of providers. In other words, 90% of the guys out there are going to have a great experience with Kristina, Karen, or whomever - no matter what they're bringing to the table. On the other hand, I don't care how good looking you are, how much style you have, how good your Spanish is, what kind of "game"/attitude or understanding of female psychology you're capable of - but NO monger is going to have a 90% success rate with a given group of providers and pull "Kristina-like" performances out of every girl. And anyone that says they do IMHO is talking out of the wrong orifice.

Which is why in the end there still IS some value in the recommendations/experiences offered about particular providers on public boards like these. It's up to the reader to then consider and evaluate the credibility of the source and go from there.


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I dislike the term "game'" when it amounts to chest-thumping. I think that most guys here using the term mean something like "knowledge of women, a bit of psychology, self-confidence and (maybe) the ability to communicate." Nothing more.

and to communicate to the girls that they need to act more like civilian chicas than whores if they want to hang with him.



Bravo El C....... :wink:

For a blind guy, you sure do see a lot 8)

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I know it might sound perverse, but I like the chicas I am paying to act like a whore. Spices things up and gives me a different kind of sex than I get with a chica I am dating. I guess I look more for pornstar like and less girlfriend like.


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I know it might sound perverse, but I like the chicas I am paying to act like a whore. Spices things up and gives me a different kind of sex than I get with a chica I am dating. I guess I look more for pornstar like and less girlfriend like.



"Acting like a whore" in my sense and what El C describes doesn't refer to the bedroom. :|


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El Ciego wrote:
Nola.... Yes, you'll get solid information from many CRT brothers, but please remember:

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M

M

V.

Just because a couple guys have had stellar experiences with a given girl, it's no guarantee that you will, too. There are a thousand or more variables that will affect the quality of your sessions. Recommendations and intel are strictly starting points.

SMellvis (BTW, love your screen name!), I dislike the term "game'" when it amounts to chest-thumping. I think that most guys here using the term mean something like "knowledge of women, a bit of psychology, self-confidence and (maybe) the ability to communicate." Nothing more.

Cujo's is a handsome devil who speaks flawless Spanish and is younger than I. These three facts don't give him "game." What gives him game IMO is his ability to relax and be "normal," to treat the girls like they're valuable but not indispensable, and to communicate to the girls that they need to act more like civilian chicas than whores if they want to hang with him.

Pacifica55 uses a somewhat different tack, including a "system" of sorts that he has refined over some forty years of dating.

"Game" isn't something magical, nor is it standardized in any way. Yes, there are universals, including staying relaxed and confident... but everyone's M.O. will vary by person and by situation.

From what you've written, your game isn't all in your wallet. You may have "game" and not even know it...many guys do. :D


YMMV, I get it. Not all chicas can be Kristina-like. Some chicas may routinely give bad performances. I’m just trying to avoid those who are nothing like Kristina. I would much rather drink $60 to $100 of Patron and Grey Goose, than to waste it on a bad performer.

I think all men have game. I define game as whatever works for you. If you use your looks, charm, personality, muscles, cash, language skills, clothing, begging or whatever. If it helps you get a woman, that’s your game. :wink:


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Thanks again for a smile on my face in the afternoon.. The word "game" here always gives me a laugh.. :)


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