Dating Putas

Bilko · **Posted:** Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:07 pm

BigBambu wrote:

Phantom - you said it all. You guys who are ragging on the ladies about the way they are trying to make it in this world just need to take a deep breath. ANYONE who lives in a third world country has it a heck of a lot rougher than you will ever know - You cannot possibly HOPE to know since you cannot walk in their shoes. And, of course, the reverse is true as well. My point is to stop the negativity because it can and does go both ways and we should try to keep it elevated, not drag it to the gutter.

Also please remember guys, respect and kindness for another human being does not make you a lesser person - quite the opposite in my view. And if you do not understand that, then perhaps you can just remember to be thankful that these generally decent persons are here for you - you could not enjoy "the life" if not for them. :wink:

10-4/amen

Hank Daman · **Joined:** Wed May 26, 2004 11:15 pm **Posts:** 2632

Bilko wrote:

BigBambu wrote:

Phantom - you said it all. You guys who are ragging on the ladies about the way they are trying to make it in this world just need to take a deep breath. ANYONE who lives in a third world country has it a heck of a lot rougher than you will ever know - You cannot possibly HOPE to know since you cannot walk in their shoes. And, of course, the reverse is true as well. My point is to stop the negativity because it can and does go both ways and we should try to keep it elevated, not drag it to the gutter.

Also please remember guys, respect and kindness for another human being does not make you a lesser person - quite the opposite in my view. And if you do not understand that, then perhaps you can just remember to be thankful that these generally decent persons are here for you - you could not enjoy "the life" if not for them. :wink:

10-4/amen

ditto...what some people don't seem to understand is that you can be strong AND kind at the same time..you can maintain bounderies without b bung hole to the girls.....

Frettless · **Posted:** Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:36 am

TheMadGerman wrote:

TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.

In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).

High paying jobs in costa rica for women are very rare. You can point to DR bartenders all you like, but the fact is, there's only a few of such jobs available, and the vast majority of women have to find other ways to support themselves and their K*ds.

Outside of the gulch, it's very rare to see female bartenders. Waitresses are much more common, but unless it's a very touristy area, they're not likely to make a lot of money doing that.

Of course all this is not to say there aren't plenty of working girls who spend the money they earn flagrantly, don't save, etc.. but I think it's not as common as you might think.

You described my ex-Novia and her situation right down to the house and 3 K*ds. I paid her rent , paid off her appliance and furniture loans and she got out of the business, working part time at her brother in law's Tiende de Ropas downtown. I was easliy able to verify that she had quit and she maid no bones about the fact that while she like'd being taken out to nice places and getting gifts, she hated the work and missed being with her K*ds when sh was gone more than a day.

I almost bought "us" a house but luckily before I could do something dumb the Chica Drama started and I woke up.

Frettless · **Posted:** Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:36 am

TheMadGerman wrote:

TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.

In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).

High paying jobs in costa rica for women are very rare. You can point to DR bartenders all you like, but the fact is, there's only a few of such jobs available, and the vast majority of women have to find other ways to support themselves and their K*ds.

Outside of the gulch, it's very rare to see female bartenders. Waitresses are much more common, but unless it's a very touristy area, they're not likely to make a lot of money doing that.

Of course all this is not to say there aren't plenty of working girls who spend the money they earn flagrantly, don't save, etc.. but I think it's not as common as you might think.

You described my ex-Novia and her situation right down to the house and 3 K*ds. I paid her rent , paid off her appliance and furniture loans and she got out of the business, working part time at her brother in law's Tiende de Ropas downtown. I was easliy able to verify that she had quit and she maid no bones about the fact that while she like'd being taken out to nice places and getting gifts, she hated the work and missed being with her K*ds when sh was gone more than a day.

I almost bought "us" a house but luckily before I could do something dumb the Chica Drama started and I woke up.

Frettless · **Posted:** Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:38 am

TheMadGerman wrote:

TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.

In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).

High paying jobs in costa rica for women are very rare. You can point to DR bartenders all you like, but the fact is, there's only a few of such jobs available, and the vast majority of women have to find other ways to support themselves and their K*ds.

Outside of the gulch, it's very rare to see female bartenders. Waitresses are much more common, but unless it's a very touristy area, they're not likely to make a lot of money doing that.

Of course all this is not to say there aren't plenty of working girls who spend the money they earn flagrantly, don't save, etc.. but I think it's not as common as you might think.

You described my ex-Novia and her situation right down to the house and 3 K*ds. I paid her rent , paid off her appliance and furniture loans and she got out of the business, working part time at her brother in law's Tiende de Ropas downtown. I was easliy able to verify that she had quit and she maid no bones about the fact that while she like'd being taken out to nice places and getting gifts, she hated the work and missed being with her K*ds when sh was gone more than a day.

I almost bought "us" a house but luckily before I could do something dumb the Chica Drama started and I woke up.

Frettless · **Posted:** Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:39 am

TheMadGerman wrote:

TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.

In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).

High paying jobs in costa rica for women are very rare. You can point to DR bartenders all you like, but the fact is, there's only a few of such jobs available, and the vast majority of women have to find other ways to support themselves and their K*ds.

Outside of the gulch, it's very rare to see female bartenders. Waitresses are much more common, but unless it's a very touristy area, they're not likely to make a lot of money doing that.

Of course all this is not to say there aren't plenty of working girls who spend the money they earn flagrantly, don't save, etc.. but I think it's not as common as you might think.

You described my ex-Novia and her situation right down to the house and 3 K*ds. I paid her rent , paid off her appliance and furniture loans and she got out of the business, working part time at her brother in law's Tiende de Ropas downtown. I was easliy able to verify that she had quit and she maid no bones about the fact that while she like'd being taken out to nice places and getting gifts, she hated the work and missed being with her K*ds when sh was gone more than a day.

I almost bought "us" a house but luckily before I could do something dumb the Chica Drama started and I woke up.

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

Thirdworld wrote:

And if it is inevitable, what do you say to the vast majority that don't hook for a living? Not judging anyone for hooking. It just irks me this no "they don't have a choice."

TW,

You have been in CR longer than most and understand. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS FOR WOMEN OUTSIDE OF PROSTITUTION!!! In fact, less than 1% of all women in Costa Rica are prostitutes.

I don't understand how regular tourists (frequent fliers) assume that all women down here are putas and they have no choice. I can say for certain, that most of these working girls do have choices. If you listen to their drama stories of this and that, they will have you believe that they are saints and are taking a hit for their family. This is a bunch of bullshit. It is more likely that they are lazy and uneducated (education is free in CR) and a don't want to earn a living any other way.

Here's what I really don't get. Unless you have been beaten with the ugly stick, or have no game or just can't find pu*sy in CR any other way, why do you need to pay for it????

Years ago, I was with a hooker in Arenal. She asked me.... "Why are you paying for prostitutes???? You are young and good looking. You shouldn't have to pay for it? Only the old gringos pay for it, because they want a younger girl." Something like this in broken english.

My point it - there is a LOT of pu*sy available down here. All it takes is some balls and some risk.

Bilko · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:38 pm

Chi_trekker wrote:

Years ago, I was with a hooker in Arenal. She asked me.... "Why are you paying for prostitutes???? You are young and good looking. You shouldn't have to pay for it? Only the old gringos pay for it, because they want a younger girl." Something like this in broken english.

My point it - there is a LOT of pu*sy available down here. All it takes is some balls and some risk.

Yes. When I was in my 20s and 30s I didn't pay for pu*sy even in the bad old United States. If I wanted to, I know I could find a 30something girlfriend down here. I might be able to get freebies from 40+ women. But I am one of the old gringos who like younger and more attractive girls, and I don't have the nesting urge. I briefly tried the gf route a few times but it just didn't suit me. For me, no matter how much you might like pizza, I don't care to have it for every meal. Different strokes for different folks.

OneoftheGuys · **Joined:** Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:45 am **Posts:** 15

In fact, less than 1% of all women in Costa Rica are prostitutes/quote]

Whew, long thread!

The main point I would like to make is that nationality and legality make a huge difference in the evaluation of why chicas are whores. For Ticas, who do typically have family here, the decision is often cultural. It's their way of life, they are OK with it, and it pays better (with better working conditions) that a regular job. But it is different with many Nicas, Dominicanas, and Colombianas. They DON'T have family in CR, CAN'T work legally here, and send remittances to their families. This is a one size does not explain all situation. The thread seems to generalize, when the different chicas have very different stories.

The most heart wrenching one to me was the Nica who sent her money back to Nicaragua last year to help her family that had been devastated by the hurricane. Two members died and the rest were homeless and hungry. The clients at the DR who screwed her then had no idea where their fees were going, and I like to think that had they known they would have given her the money as a donation. Who among us wants to go to the site of a natural disaster and say, "I'll help if you give me a bj"?

But then there are those who are just too lazy and too much party girls to bother with a job or school when El Gringo will take care of them. There are just very different circumstances, and you can't generalize. You have to talk to them and get them to tell you their real situation.

As a rule, anyone legal (Ticas mainly) do have options. They choose hooking, sometimes at their peril though sometimes sensibly, but they are very different from the others who can't even get a $300-a-month job legally and don't have a family to rely upon. Hell, in many cases they are the support for the family.

Regarding though the 1% quote, which mostly applied to Ticas, I say do the math. Between the ages of 18 and 28 roughly 5% of Ticas are hookers. Once though you realize that during this decade many slip in and out of hooking, the number grows to (my estimate) 25% or more. Of all women in CR at any one time, sure, maybe only 1% are hookers. But you narrow it by age and appreciate that chicas drop in and out of the business, and the numbers swell.

It's a Tica way of life--which explains why the grocery store cashiers are so friendly. They have jobs and families, just aren't opposed to extra money.

But please, don't confuse this with the genuinely poor woman who don't have a choice.

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

OneoftheGuys wrote:

In fact, less than 1% of all women in Costa Rica are prostitutes/quote]

Whew, long thread!

Regarding though the 1% quote, which mostly applied to Ticas, I say do the math. Between the ages of 18 and 28 roughly 5% of Ticas are hookers. Once though you realize that during this decade many slip in and out of hooking, the number grows to (my estimate) 25% or more. Of all women in CR at any one time, sure, maybe only 1% are hookers. But you narrow it by age and appreciate that chicas drop in and out of the business, and the numbers swell.

It's a Tica way of life--which explains why the grocery store cashiers are so friendly. They have jobs and families, just aren't opposed to extra money.

Where are you getting your math??? My math is as follows:

There are now about $3.8million people living in Costa Rica according to the national census. Surprisingly, only 1/3 are actual and legal Costa Ricans. While the rest are mostly legal and illegal foreigners. Of those, the vast majority are Nicaraguan and Colombian. There are also some small minorities like Americans, Germans, Canadians and Chinese in the mix.

Anyway, the Minister of Health estimates there are between 3,000 and 5,000 sex workers. So, I ask that you do the math. Even if prostitutes were at 1%, that would mean the Minister of Health is wrong be a large factor. 1% means about 40,000 prostitutes. Now, you are saying that about 1/4 of all young girls are hooking, which would probably double or triple that number???? Upwards of several hundred thousands....

Bold claim my man... Where's your math???

The other point you make is the prostitution is part of the Tico culture. I would agree that it is certainly acceptable by the majority. However, your opinion here probably is tainted by hours, days or weeks of parking yourself at a brothel San Jose El Centro. In a different post, someone sited parts of Hatillo or Desamp as being virtual training grounds for hookers. I agree there are areas like this..... However, to say that a few small ghettos in city represent the entire culture is far-fetched.

I get frustrated when I here tourists say that these girls have no choice. About the only girls that don't have a choice are the ones that are willingly or unwillingly forced into this by gangs in their own country... Colombia, DR.... I would say this is less than 10% of the work force at the DR. The others are all in it by choice.

You also must be a rooky because you are listening to and BELIEVING their sob stories. The my family has been uprooted by a hurricane is a new one and albeit creative. Please don't send her money. Its probably a lie.

When this topic comes up... I always think about a regular girl you can see every day at the DR. She is hot, speaks english and VERY SUCCESSFUL. She probably is making between $200-$400 per day. My guess is upwards of $100K per year tax free. More than many gringos. I don't know her name, but I was getting a hair cut in Escazu in a pretty expensive spa/salon. My cut only costs $15, but women run $100 and upward. This girl arrived in a large and new SUV with her tico boyfriend. They were both gucci, izod and designer makes head to toe. Shit that I can't even really afford to buy. When she recognized me, she did a little hair flip, a wink and then laughed.

Circling back to the original point of the thread... knowing that less than 1% of women in CR are sex workers. Why do men consistently target them as novias???? I still don't get it.

Bilko · **Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:54 pm

Chi_trekker wrote:

Circling back to the original point of the thread... knowing that less than 1% of women in CR are sex workers. Why do men consistently target them as novias???? I still don't get it.

My answer is as follows:

1. Working girls (tend to) be attractive.
2. They are easy to meet and get to know (at least in the Biblical sense)

To anticipate your objections... Yes, there are attractive girls all over, but they don't tend to flaunt it and display the goods so prominently. #2 is the critical one. For a youngish guy, decent looking, who speaks good Spanish and is self-confident, it's easy to connect with local non-pros. If you lack any of the 4 previous items, it's not so easy. If you lack all 4, you are screwed.

I will conclude with an old joke. A guy is walking in circles around a lamppost, looking at the ground. Another guy approaches him and asks him what he's doing. "I'm looking for my watch. It fell off my wrist in a dark alley." The other guy says "If you lost your watch in a dark alley, why are you looking for it here?"

"The light's better here."

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

Bilko wrote:

Chi_trekker wrote:

Circling back to the original point of the thread... knowing that less than 1% of women in CR are sex workers. Why do men consistently target them as novias???? I still don't get it.

My answer is as follows:

1. Working girls (tend to) be attractive.
2. They are easy to meet and get to know (at least in the Biblical sense)

To anticipate your objections... Yes, there are attractive girls all over, but they don't tend to flaunt it and display the goods so prominently. #2 is the critical one. For a youngish guy, decent looking, who speaks good Spanish and is self-confident, it's easy to connect with local non-pros. If you lack any of the 4 previous items, it's not so easy. If you lack all 4, you are screwed.

I will conclude with an old joke. A guy is walking in circles around a lamppost, looking at the ground. Another guy approaches him and asks him what he's doing. "I'm looking for my watch. It fell off my wrist in a dark alley." The other guy says "If you lost your watch in a dark alley, why are you looking for it here?"

"The light's better here."

I agree. I think guys drag themselves into relationships with these girls because they are easy. But, you have to look at the downside!!!

I disagree with one point. By a mile... the hottest chicas in this country are NOT working girls. If you go out to a regular disco in Escazu, for example, you will find that chicas, on average, ARE MUCH HOTTER. THE SEX IS ALSO WAYYYYYYYY BETTER. I'M SORRY... you can't compare hooker sex to real sex.

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:32 am

Chi: If you think they are lazy ho's then leave them alone! If you think "hooker sex" is nothing like "real sex" then you are not doing it right. Maybe your glaring prejudices are getting in the way! :cry:

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

Pacifica55 wrote:

Chi: If you think they are lazy ho's then leave them alone! If you think "hooker sex" is nothing like "real sex" then you are not doing it right. Maybe your glaring prejudices are getting in the way! :cry:

Are you offering pointers on how to have sex with hookers??? Just kidding...

Seriously, I had my fun with them. Then, I grew bored with them. There are much better options in CR if you are here for the longer term.

For every 1 Rolltide on this board, there are probably hundreds of others just getting scalped by their so-called puta girlfriends. Rolltide is one of the few that has been public about it.

If you spend enough time down here, you will see what I mean. Pay 'em for their time and nothing more... and you'll be fine.

Thirdworld · **Joined:** Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:07 am **Posts:** 4858

Chi, I have come to the conclusion that the board is about the gulch, and only from a gulch perspective. You, like I, don't seem to spend too much time there and don't live the life most on here do... People just don't want to accept that there are anything but hookers that are available here in CR. Yesterday, I saw several cute chicas working in mas x menos, maxi bodega, a couple in various souvenir shops and it goes on.... But I'm sure they all have hooked before or do now on the side. :roll:

Because we know no chicas can make it down here without slinging pu*sy, according to the board.

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