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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:53 pm 
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Gringobill wrote:
…You chose to post a comment based soley about what you have read. not what you have actually experienced…


Well Gringobill… call me crazy, but after numerous friends post about their bad experiences with something, believe it or not, I DO tend to believe them! That’s called - the power of information. I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Why would they want to lie to the rest of the membership about problems they had with an airline? What would they gain by lying about something like this?

This is not a forum of Spirit Airline shareholders. We travel to CR for good times, good pu$$y and good cameraderie with friends. I’ve got over 1 million miles with AA, but I certainly don’t get upset when someone posts about their bad experience(s) with AA. As I’ve already mentioned NUMEROUS TIMES, when it comes to the airlines (ALL AIRLINES) sh*t happens. I guess I just don’t understand why you are so defensive about negative comments with Spirit. Do you own shares of Spirit Air or something?

Believe it or not, as a central Florida resident, I would absolutely love to see Spirit become a major player. But for now, I’ll continue to travel 2.5 hours to Miami for my un-eventful flights to CR.

And yes, my comments / opinions on this subject are based solely on what I’ve read. Thus, the reason for the “YMMV” statement in my post(s)! I don’t have to make the mistake of flying with some cut-rate, no-frills, low-priced, dog-sh*t airline (with totally inept and incompetent employees) because people I know (and trust) have already had that lovely experience, and they’ve already taken one for the team, eliminating the need for me to make the same mistake(s) they’ve made (oops, did I say that out loud) ?!?!? :oops:

And based on what I’ve read, I’d rather have my ass kicked by Mike Tyson than fly with Spirit right now. I look forward to my trips to CR too much to leave it in the hands of a carrier with a less-than-favorable reputation. I’m just grateful that CRT gives people a forum to pass on information, good and bad, that could impact all of us. But again, this is just one man’s opinion.

FWIW.... If I ask 10 “experienced” friends about a certain type of fishing boat (brand X) that I’m thinking about buying , and they all tell me to stay away from that particular boat, would I go out and spend over a million dollars on brand X to see for myself? …or should I (maybe) take their word for it, and do a little more homework before I buy that boat? I know, a boat’s a much bigger ticket item, but you can see where I’m going with this!

There are several members (like you) who happen to love Spirit Airlines, and can’t say enough good things about them, and I think that’s fantastic. But unfortunately, those members SEEM to be in the minority. But does any of this really matter? If you like Spirit, by all means - fly with them. If not, then don’t. It’s not a big deal. And if I’ve offended you with any of my posts about Spirit Airlines, then I am sorry, as this was not my original intent, whatsoever.

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Mucho Gusto wrote:
We travel to CR for good times, good pu$$y and good cameraderie with friends.


You are contradicting yourself. I'll point you to your previous post.

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Since the majority of CRT members don’t live in CR, and driving (car or boat) from the U.S.A. to CR is not really an option, we have no choice but to FLY to CR for all of our eco-tourism needs.


Make up your mind man. You coming for eco-tourism or pu$$y! :P :lol:

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Maybe MG meant " eco-p*ssy"


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Maybe MG meant " eco-p*ssy"


I think he means economical pu*sy, not ecological...

so economical pu*sy translates into economical tourism needs...

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Gringobill wrote:

I fly them because:

1. They are CHEAP, leaving me many more trips to ZB or NF


While they may leave you with more cash to enjoy ZB & NF you might not have anytime to spend that cash there. If you have to make repeated trips to the airport to find your lost bag that will severely cut into your time.

There are numerous, not just the one I posted, of people having to make repeated trips to the airport because of one reason or another there was no one available who could take them down to where the bags were located. They were simply told to come back later and MAYBE there would be the person they needed to see actually there. That is just not poor customer service that is no customer service.

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I think Spirit is suffering from two major flaws that trickle down to the bad experiences many have reported. I think most people will tolerate some amount of BS and not let it get to them and not even think twice about it – but as the BS piles up they tend to make notes of every inconvenience they experience. So the two big mistakes really multiply and make us pay closer attention to all the little things that go wrong too.

Spirit as the discount airline and the new K*D on the block trying to rapidly expand into the L.A. and Caribbean markets has gotten itself into a structure that is difficult to maintain. Being a smaller airline, they are unable to take advantage of a larger network of facilities and aircraft to correct problems such as delays and overbookings.

I would also expect that the flight to SJO is uniquely set up for failure due to flight times. Call it poor planning. Fog delays are part of the menu but better flight times would eliminate this concern or at least reduce it. If I had to stand in line for 30 extra minutes in the airport and my flight hit SJO 30 minutes late, I’d be annoyed but not enough to have a bitch session. However, if after that 30 minute wait I flew for 2 hours only to find out we were diverting to another airport due to weather, the frustration would mount quickly.

I wonder is the Spirit dissatisfaction is heavier on the SJO flights because of the weather delays. I don’t keep track of customer satisfaction (reading other websites, etc.) so I don’t know if the SJO flights stand out as unusually bad or is this an across-the-board problem with Spirit.

Perhaps the best thing about Spirit is that maybe they will force other airlines to be more competitive. I recently checked airfare on Spirit from Detroit to SJO via FLL. The price was about the same as just a flight from FLL to SJO, which is a minor annoyance I have with Spirit.

This leads me to a slightly off-topic question. I have checked airfare from Detroit to SJO many times. I find the connection airport and then check the prices from there directly to SJO. I am continually frustrated when I see that I can fly from Detroit to Charlotte to SJO but if I look at fares from Charlotte, there is no direct flight offered; they all connect through another airport. The same has been the case with Atlanta, Houston, and DFW. I don’t understand that.


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I try to fly AA, Delta, etc. whenever possible. When it comes to putting my life into the hands of a flight crew I don't want to go with the cheapest option. :!:

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This is my last post on this subject, and then its time to move on.

No, I do not own shares of Spirit.

How many people have flown spirit into San Jose, since the inception of spirit's service? We only see those comments from people who had a bad experience. People who have a good experience dont post about it.

How many of these people that have had bad experiences could at least share some of the blame for poor planning or not paying attention to what is happening around them. Could it be they just were expecting more than they got on a cut rate airline.

MG, you have not offended me, I am beyond being offended by just about anything. I was just was adding my 2 cents.


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How many of these people that have had bad experiences could at least share some of the blame for poor planning or not paying attention to what is happening around them. Could it be they just were expecting more than they got on a cut rate airline.


The only poor planning I did was planning on using Spirit...

the rest of my problems were either Spirit's fault, or weather, which we wouldn't have had to deal with if it wasn't for Spirit's fault...

ergo, it's phucking Spirit's fault...


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Flying Spirit FLL to SJO tomorrow night will let you know how it is...good or bad. :?


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Gringobill wrote:

How many people have flown spirit into San Jose, since the inception of spirit's service? We only see those comments from people who had a bad experience. People who have a good experience dont post about it.



Thats why I said this in an earlier post on this subject:

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There is an old customer service axiom, a satisfied customer MIGHT tell another of his good experience while a dissatisfied customer WILL tell 10 others of his dissatisfaction.


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Gringobill wrote:
How many people have flown spirit into San Jose, since the inception of spirit's service? We only see those comments from people who had a bad experience. People who have a good experience dont post about it.


Good experience and service is EXPECTED, so people don't usually post about a good experience unless they receive something unexpected (free upgrade, free meal, etc.).


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MG, you have not offended me, I am beyond being offended by just about anything. I was just was adding my 2 cents.

Same here Gringobill! :wink: Now let's get back to talking about eco-tourism !!! :lol:

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Gringobill wrote:
MG, you have not offended me, I am beyond being offended by just about anything. I was just was adding my 2 cents.

Same here Gringobill! :wink: Now let's get back to talking about eco-tourism !!! :lol:

Pura Vida,
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Man, you gotta love that "eco" tourism...


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