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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:22 pm 
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During my last trip to San Jose, there were relatively few times that I bought drinks for a girl who was hustling the drink. While at Monaco (with Shawn and GR et al), once we were seated, we were descended upon by a gaggle of girls wanting drinks. In that case, I figured that buying drinks for the girl on my lap was the price for admission of my finger in her twat. Other than that instance, which was of my own doing, I don't remember really being hustled (though my memory of the entire trip is not complete). To be fair, however, I don't spend quite as much time at the BM as Shawn, whose name is literally synonymous with the Del Rey.

While in Juarez recently with RBC100, we went into a strip club. Just getting to the table was like walking the gauntlet, where every hooker, each one fatter and uglier than the next, relentlessly prospected for a drink. And they wouldn't take no for an answer. Once I got to the table, every girl in the place invited themselves to the table for a drink (with a compliant waiter nearby). Once declined, they would ask again ("Why ju no buy me drink?"), then ask for a dollar, then finally for a cigarette.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:32 am 
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[quote] I had been flirting with her off and on and I asked her if she would like to come in for a drink....she did indeed come in, with her three overweight sisters in tow. She told me I had to buy drinks for all of them, or none[quote]

I think MG says it best.........NEXT!! Even though I am only making my 6th trip and 1st in the last 2 yrs, it was slightly annoying even back then. If after one drink I haven't made up my mind, I tell them despacio because I don't want them boracho. Unless I plan a 3some, I also practice my best espanol on them with the words NO and HELL NO. If this somehow magically doesn't work, I simply leave or sit there and don't buy her any more and look for other chicas who are more willing to partake of my conversation and money and make both worth my while. And I keep practicing the word NO...but sometimes I find it hard to say!!!!

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Here is a move that may help some of you out of these sometimes embarrassing moments. I have no problem looking a chica directly in the eye and saying "NO"( learned from Nancy Reagan how to "just say no" ). However sometimes I prefer to do it in a lighthearted manner. Here's what you do. Raise your right arm with your elbow bent. Take your left hand and gently rub your right elbow and laugh a little while doing it. This gesture means "cheapskate" and is widely known in this culture. It gently tells the chica that you aren't interested in her,or buying her a drink,and it also tells her that you are knowledgeable about how things work around here.


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Another ugly form of this is by the DR/KL and Monkey bartenders. They get a pct not only of the total sales, but if they can sell you an overpriced bottle of champagne, they can make up to $100 on it. I posted this story before, but for newcomers and alzheimer's victims:

2 friends of mine are sitting at the bar in the DR, one is very rich and a free spender (the bartenders know this). They say they'd like a (very expensive) bottle of Champagne. My non-rich friend asks what kind. They show him the bottle. He goes across to the Del Mar restaurant and buys the same bottle for 1/3 the price and brings it in. Strangely, the girls had lost their thirst for Champagne. Who'd have thunk it?

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:13 am 
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During my last trip to C.R. I was hustled for food far more often than drinks. <insert El Ciego Dates Fat Chicks joke here>

At SL last year, I encountered little nica Jackie. She had a shadow named Luz-Marina. Before I knew I had done it, I had bought both of them a modest meal; tortilla soup for Jackie, a quesadilla for Luzi, which she shared with me. No big deal.

If I'm doing the GFE thing, dinner, drinks and other expenses might become part of the deal. That's fine, if I'm the one making the offer.

I was in KL my last night, flirting/chatting with Russian Valeria. She drinks Chivas. :roll: After her second $8.00 drink within fifteen minutes, I told her that her tastes were too elegant for me. She switched to bottled water, and we had a lovely hour together while my tico pal did his business at the Hotel Europa.

I find that, just as I'd do in the States, that I can and do control how many drinks and what type I buy for the girl.

Often, I make the first move, inviting her to a beer. If she counters with, "No gracias, no tomo cerveza sino Bailey's..." I might laugh and call her "Princessa." That usually works, and they'll order a beer or well drink.

About chica drinks in strip clubs: At Arkada, a woman with whom I'd sessioned joined me. I bought her a drink, and when it arrived at the table she insisted I taste it. It was a nicely poured shot of Centennario...no substitutions. Has anybody tasted the "vino tinto" often selected by the chicas at Bar Idem? I'd bet a session at Muses that the girls are drinking grape juice or KoolAid.
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Yes, be nice. If it's a party and you know you'll eventually bang her, go ahead and buy the drinks. Otherwise, it's up to you...and don't be a sucker. :!:

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Those kind of chicks actually lose respect for guys that are seen as too soft or as push-overs. And with the chica-network at it's best form, they ALL know if you're a sucker within 2 minutes of you walking into the establishment.

Great Points Ruff :!:

I believe that some street hustle is cool for both sides and may keep some from drinking too much :?

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Well drinks are one thing. And I agree with Mucho that I ain't never going to ask Ruffnutz to get me a glass of water.

That said, on my last trip I was going back to the room with a nice local lady for 80.00 in the middle of the day. She actaully had a Kumra Sutra book and did try some positions on me. Scubabum was there also. Well a heavy set local girl sat down and tryed the meal thing when I was buying my gal a meal and myself. The waiter asked if she was with me and I said no. then I offered the girl my fry's and I could see she was really hungry. So I bought her a drink and she finished my dates Spagetti with meat sauce from the Del Mar. I tasted it and it is good for future reference. This was one time I took the bum into the joint and watched them eat and it made me feel better about myself. Not like they normaly do and take off with the food in the bag to sell.

As far as drinks go I order tap water and do what Bob says about the elbow thing. But it makes me feel good when the girls go don't do that you are a nice guy. I am a mean SOB, But am a sucker for a tight ass in a short skirt.

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vegas bob..chilimike here ...i met you on my last trip (about 6 weeks ago) but i loved the elbow thing...i have about 10 spanish employees (one spanish busser -girl who speaks to any spanish girl i need to talk to ) so tonite i see her and i do the elbow thing and she says 'you cheap gringo" i loved it ..and cant wait to use it in 2 weeks ..so if you see me in the delray rubbing my elbow ...i dont have a rash ..i am saving money.....anymore tricks you have i am all ears!


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I bought many drinks for the girls, but always told them beer, wine or water. Most chose beer.


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When you see these girls early in the evening walking around with a small coat etc and it is not cold outside it is usually means that they came in by bus from some place outside SJ and they are going to stay the night. This means to me that they are gonna pocket any cab fare you give them(your chump light goes on if you do ) and they will also be a cheaper negotiation for an over night stay if that is what you are looking for. You are giving them a place for the night; thus why pay anymore than standard and get the night free! As a final negotiation you can offer them breakfast. You would most likely sprng for it anyway if she shows you a good time.


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One day on one of my last couple of trips, I was in Idem waiting for a buddy. He was in session with Stephanie. I was sitting there chatting with Fiorella (formerly Jenny of ZB), she's a friend. So being the gentleman that I am, I offer her a drink. I was prepared to decline some fancy drink (like Zona Blue that the girls there love to order), but when she said fruit punch, I was thinking "cool". Cristy (also formerly of ZB) was sitting next to her, so I offer her a drink as well, even though I don't really know her. She orders fruit punch also.

So I go to the bar to pay and place my 5K bill on the counter. The lady looks at me and says something like 8K or 9K. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm thinking $16-18... for 2 FRUIT PUNCHES? Looks like I just got suckered into buying 2 girl drinks for my "friends". :oops: I think the girl makes like 2K on each one she gets. Be careful buying FRUIT PUNCH at Idem.

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I believe this problem is due in part to too many of "us" and not enough of "them". When the girls have plenty of potential clients available to take advantage of, if her first one is annoyed by her drink requests and moves on, well fine. She just moves on to the next in line who is likely happy to by several drinks for her in rapid succession before heading off to the back room or his hotel.

The only solution I see is to go to venues where there are more girls and less guys...but in San Jose, where to find them?

When I was in Lima, on off nights at the higher-end strip clubs that 98% of the local men can't afford, M to F ratios often were 1 to 5 or better. Under these conditions, even a real looker, when she does finally land a guy to be with in the booth after spending sometimes hours bored with no men and just the other girls, she has to treat him well. And part of that included in my experience her typically going for 30 or 40 minutes nursing a single drink as we got cozy on the couch and her giving GFE and TLC treatment there. I assume she just felt lucky she had some company and a good chance to actually have a FS client for the night and would not want to blow her chance by asking for a new drink every 10 minutes. But when the M to F ratio reverses it all goes out the window to our detriment.

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Last evening,I walked behind a former Tica of the month that I am friendly with,as she was sliding another 3000 col. into the machines at the DR. A while later she asks me to buy her a beer. I wanted to tell her that she should have saved the money she threw away on the machines and she could have gotten AT LEAST 3 beers that I know about, but why bother. For the first time,I declined to buy her a beer.


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I lke VB's elbow thing, but never having seen it I'm curious as to whether the arm needs to be held a certain way, or whether you're just basically holding up your folded right arm and are rubbing the elbow? Should it be held up, or is it just necessary to have it so that they can see the elbow being rubbed? Don't want to do it wrong. Enquiring minds want to know! :D


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It's got to have something to do with them knowing that we are all millionaires :roll: , I guess. It didn't bother me when they acted more humble in their requests and I still don't mind buying for a girl who has been sitting with me for a while. There needs to be more etiquette here on their part. Such as, giving the guy atleast 5 minutes to offer a drink before asking ( 10 minutes for a guy she has never met). I think from now on when a chica sits down and asks me how I'm doing , I will tell her things would be alot better if the other girls were not such rude drink-hustling parasites. Then tell them that Gringos consider it bad manners to ask for drinks. If I could plant this seed in a few pretty little heads around there, atleast I will feel better. 8)

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