Vegas Bob wrote:
Point of Clarification...... By letting a chica know early on,that I am not interested in paying cien, the amount of time SHE CHOOSES to spend with me,is on HER. One thing that bothers me in these situations is when a guy sits and "plays" with a chica who doesn't draw that much action, for 2 hours with NO INTENTION of letting her make some money. That isn't fair to the chica who is "working". ...I like TMan's use of the expression "situational ethics". If a chica acts properly given the circumstances,then she deserves to be treated with respect. If she acts poorly,then she deserves to be DUMPED.
See, VB, we aren't so far apart I agree with you that this is an important distinction. BTW, do you think a sudden personality transformation immediately after you set a price is acting properly? We've all seen that happen.
Bilko, I agree that this is all largely semantics and guys who think they're talking about the same thing and disagreeing but really aren't. Ultimately it seems you and I agree on far more than we disagree. I can even appreciate your real motive for offering the 5K option as idle curiousity. The only difference on my part would have been that my own curiousity wouldn't have been worth 5K to me. Or at least, I think the outcome at 5K probably wasn't that hard to predict and a smaller more borderline amount would have been more telling (e.g., would she still have been willing to walk away from your 25K for 3K or even just 2K?)
Guiness, I don't think your analogy was that cheesy but you left out some important differences. One normally doesn't bother interviewing someone unless they've looked over their resume carefully and think they might be a fit. If the interview doesn't look promising it is usually cut fairly short. The pay rate is usually posted with the job listing or if it isn't both sides usually have at least a pretty good idea of what the job is worth and any difference is within a reasonable range of negotiation. Some guys will waste the time of chicas they really aren't that interested in or at least drag out the "interview". Also, we ALL know many chicas have an unrealistic idea of what salary they should get.
I strongly agree with VB, it behooves us if we are to enter into an "interview" to clarify what a reasonable ballpark rate might be (or at least eliminate any misconceptions that are totally out of the ball park) given what we know some chicas expect. Of course the final and more detailed negotiations can still wait until the end when we know with greater certainty that we want to hire the chica.
For those that prefer the salesman analogy. A good salesman knows how to qualify their prospects before entering into any lengthy pitch in order to maximize his successful closes. He also knows how to cut his losses. When you go to a car lot do you tell the salesman you're ready to buy if you aren't? Far from it. We don't want to subjected to the sales pitch any more than the salesman wants to waste his time. Yet, most of us thoroughly enjoy the sales pitch part of the chica's job. Even when we're only mildly interested, some of us feign more interest than we really have. And that makes the chicas job more difficult even if they were an effective and discerning salesperson, which many are not.
Off subject but related, when I get telemarketing calls I sometimes feign interest and tell them to hold the line while I get a pencil to write it all down and then I leave the phone on hold for a long time. I have no idea how long they wait before they give up, but I figure every second they wait on me is time they waste that could have been used to call someone else. Do I owe them anything for it or feel guilty? Hell no! I figure they deserve anything they get for bothering people at home.
Last comment is for Muffdiver. C'mon now. You couldn't figure out what he drinks? Didn't you notice his handle?
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