I have to say, what a mature and reasoned thread so far, and I totally agree with the notion that there's a subtle (or not so subtle) angry blame game that women are the source of one's problems in life (which for the most part, but not always, is bullshit). Actually refreshing to hear that pointed out.
I had 'nice guy' problems much of my life, women wanted to be my friend, and I just didn't have bad boy stuff inside me or was angry enough in life to have that kind of energy. Perhaps I was also too good in science and math!
But as I got older, doing a lot of work on myself, I noticed that my attractive quotient improved considerably, and the women showed up in my bed, though I don't consider myself un guapo by any means. And as all men get older, the available pool of women seems to grow profoundly. I know so many single women in their 30s-50s, and they're looking hard and very frustrated. Some have given up, resigned to a life of hanging out with their cats. After playing the bad boy game for a while, women realize that a reasonably sane and balanced hombre is what they want, and that commodity becomes their sought after prize. (of course, this applies to gringas, IMO, poor Latinas are often looking for a way out of some dire poverty, and gingos can be that door).
The original post reminds me of Back To The Future...Buff may get the girls in high school, but the good guy McFlys end up on top, and the bad boys end up detailing their car. Or as they say, 'the geeks shall inherit the earth''.
As for this former nice guy, mongering has blossomed in me a kind of bad boy thing (just be the naturing of mongering itself), and I can say that just about all of my sexual longings and fantasies have been realized. And I don't think many bad boys can say that - the reason IMO is that good guys, generally speaking, generate good karma and good results in life, and are generally speaking, more prosperous, emotionally, mentally, spiritually and financially. And the finance part makes those trips to monger destinations quite easy. Good guys just have a slower growth curve. I'll take my life over banging some chick in high school any day.
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