www.CostaRicaTicas.com

I love the idea of the burka! That would be awesome! How could they turn down a woman in a burka? Well, I guess THEN it would be "fear of terrorism". The bottom line is, they do not really want our business any more. I think it is just the Tico tendency to avoid confrontation that is making them come up with this ridiculous dress code enforcement. It would be better, to me, and to most of us, I think, if they would just admit they don't want us bringing chicas there, and be done with it. Fine. We'll go somewhere else. I find the posturing offensive. Just tell us you don't want us there, period, end of story. Don't pretend you want our business and then tell us when we come to the desk we can't bring our chosen chica up to our room!

It's b.s..

Is 5 days ago recent enough ???

Good luck with bringing 2 chicas p/day into the prez. Just expect to be hassled twice a day.
Mucho Gusto

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You ALWAYS have an option ....... "NEXT" !!!

I personally really enjoyed my last stay at the Hotel Presidente. I actually like knowing that any guest who is checked into the hotel is screened. I feel I am less likely to have a problem with someone stealing from me since there is a record of their visit. I have been concerned to a wrote and asked about guests. Here is the reply from the General Manager:


Thank you for choosing to stay with us again, and for contacting us so we can clarify any questions you may have.

Our policy regarding visitors remains the same. We allow visitors over the age of 18 to enter the guest room area with no extra charge, given there is consent from the guest, and that the visitor is properly registered with an official picture ID.

However, we have instituted a dress code for all guests, visitors and restaurant patrons. We request that revealing clothing be avoided while in public areas of the Hotel, or that they are covered with jackets, pashminas, coats, etc. The objective is to maintaining a certain atmosphere that can be enjoyed by all.

This dress code is being enforced by our staff, and since clothing is a personal matter, highly reflective of individual taste and style, there have been some arguments about it.

I hope that I have of service and that you questions have been answered. If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you again for your patronage and for taking the time to contact us.


Have a good trip.


At your service,


Daniel Mikowski H.

General Manager

Hotel Presidente

Scottp1063 wrote:



That has been done at the Presidente for at least 14 years, that I can attest to, and I do not believe anyone has a problem with it. Having a record and having them ban certain ladies for previous problems is a good thing.



This is where the problem seems to be occurring. The decision on what is proper dress is ambiguous and left to lower level employees to make the decision. There have been report of chicas denied entry because of a bare shoulder. That is a ridiculous interpretation but evidently is being enforced.

I have no problem with a reasonable well spelled out dress code but it seems the Presidente has not yet figured out how to enforce that. Until they do there will be controversy and guests who will not return.

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Alex Levine

I have no problem with any policy, as long as I know it ahead of time, it's stated in no uncertain terms, and is enforced equivocally. Those are two problems with the Prez's new policy. The language itself is very vague and leaves too much at the discretion of the security guard on duty (they even write that it's a matter of personal taste). And it seems to be targeted only towards visitors, more specifically working chicas. From what is being reported, registered (paying) hotel guests are not subject to the policy. I wonder if a eco-tourist gringa is walking in/out of the hotel in a tank top or cutoff shirt on a hot and humind day, if there is a word from security. Or even if it's a gringa visitor, I'd bet security wouldn't say a word.

YO Sensitive Senors:

There appears to be several CRT flag posters on here this week that are reacting like spoiled brats on this issue. Hey! I understand your disenchantment but it's really not a big thing if you use your wits and roll with the punches. Geezzz, if you no longer want to stay at the Pres, that is fine, it will open up rooms for those of us who enjoy staying there. If you already have or you plan on contacting the management about your decision to no longer do business with them, I hope that you use common sense in being cordial about it and not bring CRT into your argument. Treat it as a business decision and discussion which is what it is and don't flame the management about it. Yes, the policy you are upset with has flaws and the security guards interpret it differently to a degree yet this is mundane in many countries. WHAT ELSE IN COSTA RICA OPERATES IN UNISON......NOTHING !!! Hopefully not in our group but gringos not being able to adjust to 3rd world inconsistencies help breed "Ugly Americans" or ugly anybody. As a seasoned traveler I find this debate rather silly considering the real problems I've encountered in CR and other foreign countries. With all that being said, if you go to CR only to Phuck chicas then the Pres is probably not for you. Nothing wrong with that agenda which I support but it would probably be to your advantage to stay elsewhere. The Pres is not a "whore hotel" and has no intent in becoming one.

In conclusion let me reiterate my view on the Presidente. From my experience in various hotels in SJ the Pres has been more cordial and helpful to CRS and CRT travelers than any other establishment over the last 6 or 7 years. And yes, the SL is considered friendly waters but it's a different atmosphere. As a hotel, the Pres has the best management and overall facilities along with spending mucho dinero to upgrade. It was built by two European men who came to CR with nothing and their descendants have been an integral part in the hotel since it's inception. They take a personal pride in their hard earned success. Remember, they cater to a wide range of respected travelers and while they appreciate this groups's business they use mild restraints in order to keep a respectable image. That's called business.

For those of you who are unhappy with them but still may lodge there, just use a bit of creativity and treat the hotel like a chica would want you to treat them.....no, I didn't say Phuck them....you know what I mean. As for the burkas, hmmmm not a bad idea. Next trip old Circus is going to wear one while there. Hell, I've worn about everything else roaming the place. Have not been thrown out yet. Well.... at least out of the Presidente anyway.

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I've been drinking vodka every day for 45 years and I have certainly never found it to be habit forming.

Circus, thanks for stating it so well.

Again, it's a business. I like the Presidente and would stay there again,. I think management goes out of their way to be helpful and friendly; putting a jacket over my date's shoulders doesn't seem too great an inconvenience, if doing so keeps their non-monger guests happy.

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I will be staying at the President starting on Tuesday. I have receive two personal e-mails form the GM. I feel comfortable everything will be fine. I do enjoy this upscale hotel. The staff is always friendly and helpful. I enjoy all the little extras the hotel provides.

I have a "guest" lined up and have already asked them to remember to bring a sweater or light jacket if they are wearing anything revealing. I enjoy the no chica fee policy. I personally don't like the idea of paying extra since I have already paid for the room.

I will post from the Prez with an update. ** I have a back-up room reserved just in case**

Circus,

Very well said, I am still inclined to stay at the Prez,

If however you and the other vetrans come to the conclusion
that things are truly out of order
as far as dress codes or any other issue I would listen.

Fiedler.

I don't think that objecting to the policy of the Prez's dress code means I am acting like a spoiled brat. I am just objecting to a policy that to me is hypocritical. On the one hand they give discounts to a mongering organization and on the other hand they say they may not let your guest in because of bare shoulders, too short a skirt or whatever else strikes someone as unacceptable at the moment. What next? Too much lipstick? High heels too high?

I think the hotel was just fine before, and they did not, do not need this Draconian dress code which leaves any guest at the mercy of some door man or desk clerk. They should have just told any outlandishly dressed or undressed) girls to cover themselves...

As I've said before, they have every right to set whatever policy they want. And I have every right to object to it and let them know I will not be staying there unless they change it or stop enforcing it. Meanwhile I will monitor the situation and decide in 6 months or so whether to stay there again, based on reports here and from others.

I have indeed informed them that I think the policy is ill-advised and that they have lost my business, at least for the near future, as a result, and that they will no doubt lose others' business as well. I have never mentioned CRT to them.

However, I think that since they have an agreement with CRT to provide discounts to its members, in return for CRT promoting the hotel, CRT management should try to apply some pressure to them to make their policy less extreme. Bare shoulders? Short skirts? What is this, 1945? Instead of just accepting it, and agreeing that the policy makes sense, CRT should voice it's objection and threaten to withdraw support of the hotel. But that's just my 2 colones. I wonder if there is some monetary reason why CRT is just going along with this?

Circus, et al - those who think the policy is fine and will continue to stay there: Just wait until it happens to YOU. Then I wonder if you will think the policy is "okay"? Or if you too, will join those of us who object to it...

From what I have read in this post, it seems that there are two posible issues at hand, each of which warrents a different solution.

1) The policy is enforced poorly, in which case, it does make sense to "work with" the hotel and give feedback, or perhaps crarying around a rain poncho to throw over chica of choice

2) The policy and enforcement is a carful statagy of changing the nature of the hotel, and this may be the start of increased changes (i.e. chica fee, or other rules).

In any event, I think the discussion of what has happend is helpful; we can all make our own choices on where to stay. I do not see anything wrong with respecfully voiceing ones own personal opinion, regardless of what impact it may or may not have, provided that each of us is clear we only represent ourselves, not CRT.

I really have enjoyed my stays at the Pres, and am choosing to stay at an apartment this trip. The one women chica policy is the biggest issue for me

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One more note if I may,

It has been said that the Prez is not a monger Hotel, agreed If I want to
party hard , yes I would consider the HDR or such,

For me Staying at the Prez is also about the energy of Central Ave
the people, the sights, the News Cafe and the smells among other things.
Less about sexo and more about the package deal, same sort of argument as are you a GFE type of guy or not.

I must put in a good word for the SL as well , it has it's unique style
different from the Prez and Central Ave, I will stay at Uncle Bill's establishment as well in the future.

To trash the Prez managment is counterproductive and Yes,
smacks of the ugly American attitude.

We all have our own likes, we and the girls will move on or adapt.

Pure Vida

To trash anyone is counterproductive but is hardly confined to Americans ugly or of any other description. The term "Ugly American" is so overused it has lost it's original meaning. The above quote bears witness to that.

However to enter into a reasonable dialog and present point that buttress your opinion is neither counterproductive or unamerican. It is in fact one of the principals of being an American.

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Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four
essential food groups:
alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat.
Alex Levine

Right.

Although I fear some would say the Revolutionaries were spoiled brat winers for wanting to change the way things were being done in 1776...

Admin, very well stated. We all have a great time there, but still need to keep the professional side to us when conducting business. I'm back on the trail, as things at the homeside have digressed. So all you sexy Beeachhes in the poker tourneys need to beware.