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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:48 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:20 pm 
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...MG IS RIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKEN CLUE.

Touche' Citrus Bee-otch !!!!
Boy, I just love it when you start getting all 'deep' and 'philosophical' with us!!!! Come here young man. Let me give you a "Reach-Around" !!!! :P :P :P
Oops. Am I being an 'ugly american' now ?!!?!? :o
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:50 pm 
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Also, the excessive negotiating.. that's no way to court a woman.


Court a women????? He realizes we are talking about P4P? & he calls us clueless? :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:07 pm 
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My guess is YMMV must have finally found some "Depth" to his relationships with putas, and doesn't like what he's hearing about most gringos...


I suspect that you are 100% correct!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:17 pm 
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Wow- when I first found this site, I figured you guys were just a bunch of fat, old, farts.

I still think that but I'm thoroughly impressed by what's been offered in this thread. Your views, experiences and opinions have really helped me to understand what's going on down here. And, more importantly, to look at what I really want.

Thanks, fellas.
Guess you are changing your position these days UH? Really think men here are smart enough to know what we are dealing with. There are 2 kinds of women we deal with normal Latinas that would never do p4p & the putas that are all about p4p. Sounds to me like you are getting confused about what is what?? If you were dancing & dating a real normal Latina she would have little experience with gringos to make much of a judgment call about us & real nice Latinas do not take a big open stand on matters about who they hate just go back & reread your own thread you started about depth!? :roll:

It appears to me you are hung up on dating some PUTA & listening to her BS about how some Gringos treated her & how you are so different & better than them & getting all teary eyed BOOWHOO. Date a Latina that has never been around the gulch & stay away yourself if it bothers you this much. HDR is a modern day whore house so I would suspect worse things are negotiated than ass licking which is not for me but I did have to tell a couple of Chicas to stop doing this because I do not get off on it but they sure seemed to like it. My guess is they were lesbo & this was the nearest thing that I had on my body that looked like a PU$$Y to them?? :shock:

I really doubt if many men here are that abusive to women or they would not make the effort to join. Most know what they want & how to get the most out of a p4p partner. Believe they would be smart enough to know the difference in a non p4p type & would not expect a Sunday school teacher to lick their ass. They save these fantasies for the p4p types I would think? I really believe the negotiating part can be over done like you mentioned but the Chicas can expect all this since they have made the conscious decision to sell themselves it goes with the territory. Everyone should be treated as a human being but women in this arena saying bad things about how they hate Gringos means little too me because most of these women have major issues of their own do some digging you don't have to dig far!

If the normal average common Latinas of the country said this it would bother me.

A bunch of good posts here & I agree with all of them. Even YMMV makes some good points but try to keep it in perspective of the play ground we are in. Also YMMV keep letting those Chicas that you trust so much that you have charmed over so well around your possessions & someday they will be missing mark my words! :wink:

PS It looks like YMMV is varying? Lots of little speed bumps & pot holes in the road down in CR so be careful especially pointing fingers as that finger has a funny way of getting twisted right back at the person doing the pointing.

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Zippy,
Extremely well written. Cheers!
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On Second read of this it really stands out what has happened to YMMV. He has been sucked up in some Putas tail pipe & is still in the sucking up phase wait till he gets blown out covered in all that muck! EECK! Live & learn but I could be wrong & hope I am for his sake. By the way YMMV if so many have it just wrong here could you let us in on your secret & give us a step by step guide on how to do it right?? :P I would find this real interestinng?? :wink: :P :lol:

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YO Hombres:

YMMV is not a monger as we interpret that coined word. He has his own agenda and that's fine. Sadly, he paints all members in CRT with a broad brush and that shows his ignorance. It's these type of comments that I refer to as "Drive by Posts." Titilating in that they prompt debate but in most instances the poster fails to follow up with theirs. I've seen them come and go and no longer care to engage in any meaningful exchange. If he needs a soapbox, perhaps he can visit a gathering at the BM window section and expand on his disdain of fellow CRT members and their muy malo gringo practices. I'll buy the first round of spirits.

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It's these type of comments that I refer to as "Drive by Posts." Titilating in that they prompt debate but in most instances the poster fails to follow up with theirs. I've seen them come and go and no longer care to engage in any meaningful exchange.


Very true! They put it out there though they never bother to defend themselves.

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Nice post Zippy!


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Did Circus just offer to buy a round? Wow!


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Did Circus just offer to buy a round? Wow!


Wow if this is true I may have to come out of hiding?? :D

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YMMV,
I go to Costa Rica because I enjoy the weather,
normal tourist stuff, and legal P4P. I do not go to
Costa Rica to find a wife or girlfriend.
I treat everyone with respect, even the street people
and shoe shine guys. I don't remember when, if ever,
I didn't buy a lady a drink and offered to take her out
for something to eat, that I was interested in,
(not including MP sessions). I do believe that I have
always paid the agreed upon amount for services received,
and sometimes a little extra. Hell, even if I'm not interested in a
lady for company, if she asks for a drink I will normally
buy her one. I have even bought several ladies something
to eat that I wasn't interested in. So, I for one do not fall
into the broad catergory that you have labeled us with.
And I know for a fact that all of the members I have spent
time with in Costa Rica are total gentlemen.
Please get your facts straight before you throw out such Bullshit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:39 pm 
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Damn...

Since I'm an aging fat American, guess my days of being a Rock Star are over... :cry:


Not PIDD anymore.. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:06 pm 
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You know what? I love the tone of YMMV's post, as well as most of its substance. I'm a big boy, and I can take a wake-up punch to the shoulder, if it is deserved.

I've seen the ugly American/Canadian/Euro alll over the world. Presumably, most of these sphincters are not CRT members.

I agree that playing twenty questions, some of which involve rimming and or the swallowing of hazmat isn't what one could call romantic, spontaneous or even friendly.

Not bragging, but I have skills. I'm sure all of us do. Do I need to negotiate a BBBJ? Nope, 'cause if she's clean and I don't braille out any warts or lesions, I might just eat it. Very few will fail to reciprocate.

Be her lover. Seduce her. Make her feel your eyes, hands, smile. Be good in bed. Try to pick her locks and bypass her alarms, and gently ease into the idea of raw anal sex, whips and chains and/or bukkake. Whatever.

For me, while prenegotiation is good business, it pours cold water on the fantasy.

If I've got game, am clean and sweet, speak her language, smile and play like I'm a real Don Juan, maybe it's not only more fun, but more cost-effective. As YMMV suggests, being her amigovio, pichovio or whatever can get you mileage. Which of course may vary.

Now to bad advice. Thanks to vigilant contributors such as Irish Drifter, Paco Loco and many others, factual errors (where is the restaurant? What's the cover charge? What do the girls charge per half hour?) are usually caught and corrected. I often rush to be helpful, drop the wrong name, and someone catches it. :D

As far as bad advice regarding subjective matters. Well, they're subjective. One man's winning strategy may not work for me. One member likes one girl, another doesn't. We believe the Blue Marlin is more fun than ever or not nearly as good as yesterday.

YMMV, your points are extremely well-taken, although I promise you that I strive to behave as a gentleman, play with class, competence and confidence, and practice the Golden Rule. Am I fat and middle-aged? Yeah. Ain't it great? Do I stink/fall over drunk/shout in public/treat the girls like skin-lined sperm waste disposal bins? I try not to do so.

Redman.... you're eloquent post clarifies the modus operandi of lots of us. A lot of guys could give a tinker's damn about the girlfriend/great lover fantasy, and are into a specific service and a specified price. Nothing wrong with that approach either, as long as everyone involved is treated honestly and with respect.

I suspect in the long run YMMV's methods are better. I suppose if one had the luxury of time, strong familiarity with language and culture, game and grille that treateing the ladies like ladies would pay bigger long-term dividends.

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