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Lately, it seems lately there's more bad advice on this board than there is good advice. And bad gringo behavior everywhere. It's obvious from the posts... so many of you have it so wrong.

No wonder chicas steal your stuff, and charge you so much.. they hate you. You're nothing but a dollar bill to them. They have no respect for you, because of how you act.

But don't presume that they're that way with everyone.. they aren't. Actually its just that way with you.

I've learned that they hate the American male "I can have anything, because I'm paying for it" routine. It lacks class and sophistication.

I couldn't believe it when I read some guys 10 questions he asks Chicas.. one was will you lick my ass. This fucktard is asking someone he's only known for a few minutes to lick his ass??!! And then thinks she'll respect him??!! What a tool.

Also, the excessive negotiating.. that's no way to court a woman.

Try being suave. Tell a woman she's beautiful and act accordingly. Be a gentleman, take her dancing, buy dinner/drinks. Look into her eyes. Kiss her. Develop a respectful friendship.. you'll be amazed at how their behavior changes.

They think all aging American men are pigs.. try proving them wrong instead of proving them right.

I've gotten tons of freebies, have pros that visit me, spend the night, etc... have even left them at my place when I needed to leave. Nothing ever stolen. In fact, they cook for me and usually clean up my place before they leave. Treat them like a woman, and they act like a woman.. they love to serve good men. And love to have fun with cool guys.

Forget ALL about the fact that they're pros, and act like you're courting any other woman. You'll get real GFE for little or nothing.

Good luck.

It will be interesting to hear the responses to your YMMV. I am not sure if this is a regular member in cognitvo, of if you are a lurking newby...The sad thing here, is thats that several of your points I agree with; yet the tone of your post and its nastiness mirrors what you are complaining about- it is hard to take your seriously. For the spirt of argument, however, I will agree that the relationshps between how we treat the women and our service is much greater than many here believe; it IS about the money, but so how we are servcied is about so much more. There is a great deal of mysogony on the board; the hurt of many men seems to be transformed to anger. The women deserve total respect, regadless of how they may or may not act; they are human beings.

However, you really come across as as turd here; there is very you say that is of us. If you want to truely engage in a dialogue about these issues, present them without all the venom; i.e. get the bug out of your asshole...

You frankly sound like one of the little B&*CH who compains the attitudes of the woman he treated poorly; and that is your complant. So, grow up and try again.....

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There was a time (and I beleive its still here) that members of this board were pretty much known for the respectfull way they treated the chicas who are used to being treated badly by thier ticos.
My experience with the majority of our brothers is that they treat the chicas very well, are polite and stick to whatever deal is worked out beforehand. As a result, many of our brothers have become "M" men and now have a good novia relationship.
Now that we've grown so much,it COULD be possible that we have a few bad apples but the mongers I have encountered through this board since its inception do not fit into the catagory the poster described.
As to bad advice given on this board, please remember that the majority of the people who offer advice are truly in the know and they are simply trying to make your experience more pleasant.
LVSteve

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Just an old horney, fat gambler.

On any other day, I would probably flame the sh*t out of this newbie, but I'm in a pretty good mood this morning, so I'll be nice.

YMMV,
I'll keep this short.
YOU DON'T HAVE A PH*CKING CLUE!

I, along with Psychman, agree with some of the things you've written, but that's irrelevant right now. Don't paint all of us with the same brush. I've met many, many CRT members over the past 15 trips, and I'm proud to call each and every one of them 'friend'. We all may play the game a little different, but we all do it as gentlemen, not only amongst each other, but also with the chicas.

Sure, there's always a bad apple in the bunch, but with 6,500 members, that's not a bad ratio. It's apparent to me that you have not met many of the brotherhood, otherwise you wouldn't be posting such dribble.

Lose the attitude, and stop spewing the BS. We all get freebies on occasion, and have women cook for us, and stay with us, and clean up our place, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc.

Contrary to what you may think, many of us know exactly how to treat a woman, and don't require your words of wisdom, based on your worldly experience. And always remember, that when it comes to the chicas..... (as per your own words / handle) ...... YMMV.

And, BTW..... This WAS being nice!

Respectfully,
Mucho Gusto

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I agree to a certain point at what he has said. However, he could have made his point with less hostility.

My non-pro friend in CR thinks all gringos are fat, ugly, drunk and nasty. If you look at the behavior of a few, she is right on target. Whenever, I'm in the DR, I can always spot a few big assholes who treat these girls like they are animals and completely disrepect the people of CR. However, I can usually spot a few who are true gentlemen.

YMMV - the chances of the "pigs" you speak of being on this board is lower than the general pool of gringos down there. We have a "written" code of conduct.

Unfortunately, I think it is a few bad apples that tend to spoil our reputation. On my last trip, there was a really drunk and nasty gringo at my bar hotel. He was pissing everyone off including me. He was actually mad, because the tico sitting next to him couldn't speak english . I mean... WTF!!!!! Imagine a mexican being mad at you in America for not speaking spanish. Some Canadian guy was trying to get him to leave the bar and go home. He wouldn't leave and continued to piss everyone off until I finally got disgusted and went to bed. My chica just looked at me and said that most gringos behave like that. I corrected her and said - some do - but they are some good ones.

Concerning negotiation... I completely disagree. They expect it. Its part of the game. Since you live there, you probably have less of a need, because they know you are local. I'm not talking about negotiating ass licking, I'm talking about price. If you are a tourists and don't do it, you're stupid.

Concerning treating the ladies with respect.... 100% agree. Take 'em out to dinner and treat them like a woman. They will treat you like a man.

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Chi,
I agree with everything you've said. There's ALWAYS going to be 'Ugly Americans' around, no matter where you go. But, having said that, I've never seen a CRT member behave this way with the chicas. I'm sure there are members who may act like "less than gentlemen", but I haven't witnessed it yet. Because of this, I tend to give the benefit of the doubt towards the members, versus the normal, every day ham-n-egger gringo.

YMMV makes several good points on how to treat the chicas, and I agree with most of his points. I also like to treat them with respect and dignity, as most of us do. They may be P4P women, but they're still humans. The only thing that I disagreed with was how he came across in his post. The members of CRT are not idiots, and don't need to be patronized. I wish him much success in CR. No harm, no foul.

Mucho Gusto

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You ALWAYS have an option ....... "NEXT" !!!

err....... dude, are you posting on the right board ? These chicas are P4P's, spinners,service providers.

You guys know I am alittle different and come from a different background than most. I say that before I start.

When I go to buy a car I treat the sales person with respect. I also hope to be treated with respect. But that does not prevent me from reminding myself that they are a car sales person.

I ask what incentives the factory is offering. I ask what interest rate is out there. I give them my license so they can run a credit check. So they will know I am for real. I do all this in a respectfull way. And I have gotton a good return this way. Life time free car wash, Free loaner car. Someone to get me coffee, someone to watch my K*ds, Crayon's for them to use. Sometimes salesmen even entertain my wife and try and talk her into buying something.

Then I get down to whether or not the car has a radio, [ BBBJCIM ] Wether or not the car is an auto trans. [ Anal ]. I have bought a few cars without disrepecting the salesperson. But I go to buy a car knowing what I want that car to have. And sometimes I make concessions. I could order a bose sterio system. Or take the car on the lot and save 2,000.00. To buy a car, site unseen and not expressing what you want that car to have. I would be a fool. And deserved what I got.

When I go to the HDR I know what I want. I am not a rapist. I want to pay. And she wants to earn money. Nobody else. In CR pimping is ileagal and I agree with that. She is selling a product and I am buying a product. I paid my taxes on the money I am spending and Prostitution is legal in the US. And the lady will be over 18.

I go to CR because I want to meet someone who will let me C*m in her mouth and stick my penis in her ass. And I know that the girls I meet in the HDR are 18 and not being forced to swallow my C*m. I treat them with respect and hope to be treated the same way. I pay them what I say I will and sometimes I give them extra things. And sometimes they give me extra. Wether or not she respect's me when we are finished is between her and her God. But I still respect myself. And if I have committed sin then it is between me and my God. As far a man is concerned I have not broken his law.

This is how I feel. And that being so, I totaly do not understand what the author of this thread is saying.

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Again, too bad no post of the month anymore...This is my philospohy exacatly, they are providing us a servcie, but they are human beings first. I fail to see how treating women with dignity is somehow incongrous with good service.. I am pretty demanding in terms of what I enjoy (yes, I like my a$$$hole licked), so I am not some wuss that just accepts what I am given.

In this regard, I do think that the origional poster is dead worng. You must be willing to negotiate terms up front. There is a way of doing it in a manner that is not crass and vulgar. The chicas have heard it all, stated in a million ways. Assert your needs with some humor, grace, and yes, good ol fashion male assertiveness, and you are good to go (if she accepts), Be a rude dipshit, or a scared mommas boy, and what you get is what you get. Latinos like assertive males, NOT agressive , abusive pricks (I would suggest this works with Gringas as well, but lets not go there now). Respecto, dignidad, orgullo are key values as well. They are POSITIVE aspects of the Machismo/Marianismo system (a system that has some negative aspects as well, no question).

I wish our origional poster knew how to express himself without the rancor; this is an imprtnat topic. Blowing his invection off by stating, in effect; it is P4P and they do what I want them to do, the bitches, is an attitued that will not lead to the best service, unless you really do like girls to be your, to quote an old movie "C*m dumpsters"; and don't enjoy the passon of a Latina reciprocating with a little of her own desire (not love, just desire).

But, too each his own, right?

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Lou Reed

YMMV isn't really a newbie anymore, apparently he's been living in SJO for about 8 months now(?)

Maybe so, could you point out examples of this bad advice?

None of us that have learned to play the game a bit and seek the GFE can argue with these points, good advice, behaving like a gentleman and giving the chicas a BFE can have great results. But the rest of the post does come across as quite hostile. My guess is YMMV must have finally found some "Depth" to his relationships with putas, and doesn't like what he's hearing about most gringos... https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewto ... ght=#65272

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Paco..great find..here is the quote.

YMMV stated "All of my relationships here have lacked any real depth. Anytime I broach subjects that have interpersonal, spiritual (to me), or otherwise broad qualities, I get a blank stare in return. Doesn't necessarily bother them, but they certainly have no response."

Interesting internal struggles YMMV. IM me if you want to explore this with a professional; I can help you think through your options for a referal (and I am being only half facisious).

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I said hey baby, take a walk on the wild side.
Lou Reed

I also agree to with some of what he said. But not with the attitude. As for the question asked about licking the guy's ass, yes I was suprised when I read that one, but one thing I have learned in my dealings with the pro's is that there are alot of different likes and dislikes out there. I've heard about some stuff alot more strange than this. If the guy likes it, and it is not violent, and he's paying, then there is nothing wrong with that question. She can say "no", and they can then agree not to have a client/customer relationship, and he can go on to interview another lady.
There are alot of jerks out there, but I do feel the CRT guys that I have met have all been gentlemen.
Also, beleive me, it is about the money. You may be getting freebies, but in reality, that freebie is a thought out future payment by the chica, unless of course you are a very handsome man, which I can also say, that the majority of us are not. We're not all ugly, but for the most part, we got nuttin on Brad Pitt.

I just look like Brad's pitt..

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I said hey baby, take a walk on the wild side.
Lou Reed

If anything, considering the guys that actually send money and guys that try relationships with these girls, the girls would have to think we are just nice suckers than mean men that they should hate.

Imagine all the RFMs mentioned on this board and then imagine the amount we don't hear about and since off this board lots guys send money because they haven't any "good" advice. The same exists for guys that attempt relationships with these girls and since, again, many of these guys aren't on the board, they haven't a clue that they are being played.

My point is that we are the ones that are nice. We are usually the ones getting taken advantage of. How could they hate us since we are so so so easy?

I think we give these girls more reason to love us than hate us.

They might hate themselves for what they have to do to play the game with us, but I find it hard to believe that they hate us.

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You're not trying to pick up a date for friday night genius. You're talking with a hooker to arrange a business transaction. Obviously, I agree with every single other poster in this thread about respecting the chica and treating her with dignity. But dinner, dancing, come on dude. Are you talking about a non-pro?

MG IS RIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKEN CLUE.

I would support CRT if it was a pay membership-only site, it would eliminate this kind of shit. He's not seriously trying to contributr to the forum, he's looking to get a rise out of us. And he did, 15 responses in 3 hours. But the responses are very good and very practical.