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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:50 pm 
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Why men should not marry.
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All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap.
Ch*ldren - "the ultimate human experience"
I couldn't even begin to list all of the older folks I know from work or through my family with K*ds they either don't get along with, are disappointed in, or are so distant as to not even be a factor in each other's lives.

I'm really skeptical about the idea of Ch*ldren as "the ultimate blessing." How many friends do you have with little or no meaningful contact or relationships with their parents?

I would wager the statistic for happy Ch*ld/parent relations would be as bad, if not worse, than the marriage numbers. Who wants to deal with TWO bitter, unfulfilling relationships?!


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Marriage is a sham for men. There is no benefit. If you are about to get married, think it over. Don't let your dick do your thinking for you. Don't let your punch-drunk I'm in love euphoria put you on auto-pilot. You will wake up in a hell of a hangover staring at this woman who will control your life.


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A few years ago I went through a major depression over this until I started talking to all the older guys I knew...and they all said the same thing; "don't do it, it's shit. Even when it's not bad, it's shit". You end up being closely tied to an old woman. Think about that. I can go to Europe or the south seas tomorrow. If I was married I wouldn't have the money and I'd have to ask HER permission. Don't get married unless you are absolutely religiously in love with her. Like carry her sick aged body to the toilet and wipe her ass and be happy to do it kind of love.

What I'm saying is that human beings are nasty weak treacherous creatures that are for the most part totally untrustworthy. Experience is my basis for this statement, both mine and others who I know or who have written reliable histories. If you can find a woman to be your companion who is not treacherous, a deceitful little actress, a sly whore or a manipulative nag or a shrieking hag, then you are among the lucky few. Congratulations. I hope your luck continues to hold out.


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Ok, assume that you will end up divorced and won't see your K*ds and lose half of your assets, how different is that from being married?

Most married guys I know are working their asses off to pay bills, rarely to get to spend time with their families, mediocre or no sex life, and have wives that spend as much of their money as absolutely possible.

My problem with marriage isn't a fear of divorce; it is that the whole thing sucks divorce or not.


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What security is there for men in marriage?
If I cheat on my wife, she gets half my shit.
If she cheats on me, she still gets half my shit.
Why the Phuck should i get married?


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Phuck it man, it's easy to get depressed about not being married when we live in a society that constantly feeds us the image of the happy couple. It's one big lie. The happiest person alive is someone who isn't a prisoner dependent on another human being... We only have 80 or so years on this rock to achieve true freedom


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Very few marriages last nowadays, and even guys older than me are telling me not to even think about it... It's a grossly overrated source of happiness. And for the 80% that do go through divorce, it will financially ruin you for life. Period. You can take your best 10 earning years from say, 35 to 45 and take all the wealth you would have accumulated and flush it down the toilet. Because it will go to her and her lawyer. If it happens naturally and it's good then great, good luck. But the worst thing is to force it, to make gross exertions and ignore all sorts of red lights going off just to be hooked up and "normal". Get some hobbies. Relax. Hang out. Enjoy. Take life as it comes.


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As men, we all know that a woman's primary objective is to marry. After years of experience I've discovered their most commonly used strategy. here it is:

1. Girl pressures guy for marriage.

2. Guy delays.

3. Girl gradually starts destroying guy's self-esteem and eliminating his friends.

4. Guy becomes too weak and too much of a loser to find something better than what he has.

5. Girl starts to limit sex. In effect controlling the only good thing in the guy's life.

6. Guy is in despair. Capitulates to marriage.


Then 5-10 years later the guy is an empty shell of his former self. Girl is a ruthless manipulating machine. Girl divorces loser husband. Girl takes 80% of guy's stuff because the guy is too brain dead to find a good lawyer. Girl lives happily ever after. Guy becomes bald alcoholic who dies of heart attack at 45 years old.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:55 pm 
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uhhhh, so don't get married? hahahahahaha

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:26 pm 
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I enjoy the "don't get married" rhetoric and the jokes here and all, but do you guys really feel this way?

I hate to put a damper on the jokes but it goes over the top, and it's just plain silly. Is everybody a complete pessimist when it comes to this? I have seen successful marriages, so it can and does happen.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:40 pm 
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Funny stuff I thought & very true. This is something someone else wrote but it reads like something I would have written except the part about the depression. :roll: This is really true!
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What security is there for men in marriage?
If I cheat on my wife, she gets half my shit.
If she cheats on me, she still gets half my shit.
Why the Phuck should i get married?


Orange I am a complete pessimist if it does not work out because many points made are very true but there are many very good marriages still around & if it is between the right people that both are giving & loving it is truly GREAT! :D But most people do not do their homework & don't take a good honest look at the situation to make it last & it is all too easy to get into the blame game when someone isn't happy. :evil:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:11 pm 
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Sex after marriage stops.
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Here's why I'll be with my girlfriend tonight and not my wife.
Two phone calls this afternoon:

Me: Hey sweetie, my mom called and she wants the K*ds to stay over tonight. What do you say I pick up a bottle of wine and we open up the hottub.
Wife: No, John, you know Tuesdays are difficult days. I had carpool this morning and I'm just too tired. . . .


Me: Hey sugar, you want to get a drink tonight after work?
Girlfriend: Why don't we just go to my place?

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My wife reads in the kitchen until I fall asleep to avoid having sex with me, or if I am not tired, she waits until I am in the shower and then gets into bed and goes to sleep.

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Prior to marriage: Real sex is unequivocal to anything else, including food and oxygen. Porn is only there if you're in-between girls. Up to four years of marriage: Sex is great and when you finish with the foreplay (usually 30 minutes of begging), you have a pretty good time. Porn is okay
After four or more years of marriage: Sex = Been there, done that, nothing new. Porn is now the better since at least you're seeing something new and fresh. Sorry girls, we love you forever, but even eating steak and lobster gets old if you do it too much.

My take on marriage: It's a great way to complicate an otherwise amicable business relationship with sex.



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I can remember my last blowjob like it was yesterday. Actually it was six years ago the day before I got married. Sex then was four to five times a week. Now I have a four year old son who sleeps in my bed with my wife more nights a week than I do. Sex now maybe once a month. Triple that for vacation sex. I have noticed that the rate goes up for a short period of time but drops off quickly when large purchases are made (house, Landrover, shopping sprees, new floors, etc). I am thirty eight, not happy, and slowly methodically plotting my way out. I always love the look in the eyes of my friends who say that won't happen to them.

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When we were changing for the reception after the wedding and I tried to kiss her (and after 3 years of mind-bending sex), my wife of 45 minutes said "No more of that. We're married now."

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My wife was a frigid, shriveled bitch. Before we were married, we had plenty of sex, but as soon as we passed the six month mark after our wedding, she stopped being interested. My wife only fucks when she "feels sexy." Translation: when I give her jewellery. She is just a withered old bag at the age of 35.

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My granddad told me an insightful story before my wedding. He said for the first year of marriage to put a penny in a jar every time I had sex with my wife. Starting in year two, take out two pennies every time we had sex. He said there'd be money in the jar when I died. I think he's going to be right.

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I've been married 15 years and my wife and I have lived most of that as brother and sister. There has been no sex AT ALL for the last four years. Get a girlfriend or get used to it. Marriage is all about learning how to do without sex.

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My wife reached a point where she only uses sex to get something, and she doesn't happen to want anything at the moment.

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My GF was damn good to me, in and out of the sack. We probably had sex, on average, 10-15 times a week. Anywhere and everywhere. Even a once a day BJ on average. Things were great.
That was, until we got married. A day later, everything had changed. Got it once on the honeymoon, and she told me to "hurry up and finish". When I ask her why she never initiates anything, never even flirts anymore, when she used to before, she says "I was trying to get you to marry me then".



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I have been married 3 times. Yup, slooooowwww learner. Each time it was good/great sex before marriage and lucky to have any sex after the first year of marriage.

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No more sex. Period. She's too busy spending my money putting traventine in the entryway, redoing the kitchen with Corian, redecorating the bedroom, having parties, and all that other shit, or talking to girlfriends incessantly about the same.

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Wife is overweight, no sex, doesn't cook anything not in a can. 3 K*ds. I am stuck. I can't even cheat on her since we do a mail order company out of the house. No alone time, no peace.
I think I am going crazy.
Oh, another fun aspect - wife is a born again Christian, so if I bring up the sex issue she uses the bible to justify herself. I argue that, and kazam, I am Satan, and no sex for Satan. If I do not argue, no sex for me either.



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I used to pay a lot for sex, like my whole salary.
Then I got a divorce and now sex is easy, fun and free!



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My little sis is married and has two K*ds under 6 years. She says that sex to her is "just one more person wanting something from me".

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I walked into a large bedroom when my wife was changing into her outfit to get on the plane to start our honeymoon, admired her gorgeous half-naked figure with a 'you wanna knock one out right here and now' look on my face, and she said, "Oh, no. None of that nonsense. We're married now." I mean she changed *instantly* from this funny happy woman into this scheming bitch who just had plans to buy and redecorate a big house and throw parties in it with my money.

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Here is a typical married woman:
I give birth to your K*ds and you complain we don't have sex? How do you think they were born, osmosis? Who takes care of them, drives them to school, picks them up for after school activities, drives them to sports, takes them to their friends houses, plays chauffeur, cleans, cooks, goes to PTA meetings and then caters to your sorry whiney ass when you get home. To top it off after you eat, fart or burp you walk out the door and go out with your buddies.

You want sex? Go Phuck yourself! I'm too tired.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:49 pm 
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Only marry foreign women.
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"Now you understand why US men prefer foreign born women: THEY TREAT US BETTER, RESPECT US, APPRECIATE THAT AFFECTION WE SHOW THEM, AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE."


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A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase

White 'career' American chicks are the bottom of the barrel marriage-wise.

Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia are at the top. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these. But they never, ever go back.

Foreign-born women living in the US are the next best. They get married early...they are highly sought-after by American guys for their wifely skills (hell, any women who has ANY ability to be a wife is better than your average American chick, who knows NOTHING about being a wife)

Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch.

Here's a story: I knew a guy who was Hungarian (parents emigrated) who tried for 15 years to find a half-decent women to marry. He's a doctor, by the way. Finally after 8 psycho-weirdo US chicks, he went back to the 'old country' to find a wife. The people there were lining the women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are considered the best husbands in the world.

He found this lovely wife. She is a total gem, and he's happy as hell. 2 K*ds. Happily ever after.


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I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, bitchy, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.

Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves.

Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you!

Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered.


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I was absolutely blown away by the quality of women on my trip to eastern Europe. Classy, cultured, traditional values, how could you ask for more?


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One year with my Japanese girlfriend

So far...
-No fights.
-Great sex every night.
-She cooks a delicious meal every night (unless I take her out).
-No guilt trips for going out with the guys.
-Thin and absolutely beautiful.

Think I've finally found myself a keeper. One thing's for sure; I'll never go date an American girl again.


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Latin American women seem to make decent wives. My friend married a hot girl from Venezuela. Sweet, beautiful, cooks, cleans, and is the perfect wife. Like how American women were in the 1950s America.


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As I said, it's a competitive marketplace. We're not looking to marry other men. The real world is not about what is fair, but what you can get.

American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees.


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Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness

1: Sensible and good with money.
2: Genuine commitment.
3: Very family oriented.
4: She enjoys housework.
5: Hard working.
6: She does not have to diet to look great

Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart.

I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce.

Not many foreign men want American wives either.


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American women..
- highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars)
- fattest in the world
- most likely to cheat
- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
- largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come)
- bitchiest
- most likely to nag constantly
- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
- spend least amount of time with her Ch*ldren
- worst at cooking and cleaning
- phucked & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage


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3 reasons to marry an American woman

You actually believe BBW = big BEAUTIFUL wife.
You believe nagging is essential for personal growth.
You really look forward to the day your BBW wife divorces you and you gladly fork over 50% over your hard earned assets, plus Ch*ld support and alimony (a lard ass bitch for sure is not going to have a good job). Then after that you have to figure out how to live on 20% of your income.

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Every foreign girl I've met was superior in every conceivable way to any other girl I've known, from attractiveness to personality.


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I have a foreign Latino girl and she blows away American women. This web site are 100% true; I can speak from experience of living with my girl for a month. I could never go back to American trash women. I also use to think web sites like that were stupid until I had the experience for myself. It has changed my life for the better, made me look at American women in a different light.


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I wouldn't even consider dating an American women, the majority are bitchy prudes that only put out when they think they can cash in. I for one will never spend a huge amount of money of some stupid bitch just to get laid. Mexican and Asian women are a much better choice and they look better than American chics too.


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After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women.

Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans.

But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks.

They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely.


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Since I've been traveling overseas I have met many nice Japanese, Russian, and Spanish women. I can tell you this....the women are so much better. I want a lady that, when I get home from work, would rather kiss me than scream at me for some trivial reason like I didn't mow the lawn. I can do without the nagging thanks. To all my fellow American men... American women are easily replaceable...go Asian, or Russian, even European (except British, Italian, and French women) and you can't go wrong. Experience is the best teacher.


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I can not date white American women anymore. I was in the navy and I have seen the light. Women from other countries just look better and treat you better too! I didn't pay for shit when I was overseas and I pay up the wazoo here. Any rational person can figure it out from here.


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American women are high-maintenance primadonnas with attitudes. I'd take a foreign born Russian or Latina woman any day. They are much nicer and normally MUCH SMARTER than most American women - plus they don't watch Rosie and Ricci Lake - they go to the library or perform outside activities.


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Dating or being married to an American woman is like driving a beat-up Ford Escort. If you are only used to driving a beat-up Ford Escort, then you have no idea what it feels like when you drive a Bentley or Ferrari. You need to at least test-drive a Ferrari, so you'll have a reference point on what a real car feels like.

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I enjoy the "don't get married" rhetoric and the jokes here and all, but do you guys really feel this way?

I hate to put a damper on the jokes but it goes over the top, and it's just plain silly. Is everybody a complete pessimist when it comes to this? I have seen successful marriages, so it can and does happen.


Obviously, Orange has not been married. LOL You have SEEN successful marriages. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors with those "successful" marriages. Both parties might actually dislike each other but would NEVER let it be known in public. Then, one day, they will be divorced and you will be like......what???? I've seen it a million times. So much of the stuff Zip posted is so true.

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Let it rip , Zip!! Hell, I fell better after reading that. I just thought of my closest friends and their relationships . 1, divorced twice, 2 K*ds, remarried again, he has told me he made a third mistake, not happy. Aother friend, married and divorced 3 times, 2 K*ds, 1500 a month Ch*ld support. Another friend, born very rich, 2 K*ds, still happily married.Another friend who braggs about never paying a girl for sex, divorced twice, paid the first wife 50 grand to buy out equity in the house. Me, divorced once, 1 K*D I didnt know about until 10 years ago. im single and fairly content. We were all normal guys with loving parents and a good upbringing. 1 out of 5 has a good healthy normal marriage, thats a twenty percent chance.


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Let it rip , Zip!! Hell, I fell better after reading that. I just thought of my closest friends and their relationships . 1, divorced twice, 2 K*ds, remarried again, he has told me he made a third mistake, not happy. Aother friend, married and divorced 3 times, 2 K*ds, 1500 a month Ch*ld support. Another friend, born very rich, 2 K*ds, still happily married.Another friend who braggs about never paying a girl for sex, divorced twice, paid the first wife 50 grand to buy out equity in the house. Me, divorced once, 1 K*D I didnt know about until 10 years ago. im single and fairly content. We were all normal guys with loving parents and a good upbringing. 1 out of 5 has a good healthy normal marriage, thats a twenty percent chance.


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This post is so true, needs to be a Sticky.
Copy it to the newbie section as well.
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Damn Zippy!

I'm looking to have bebes soon and thought I'd find me a chica in Costa Rica to do me the honor of giving birth to my offsprings. I'm not looking for the perfect parnter to live the rest of my life with, just someone for about the next ten years. Afterwards I can find me a new younger bride. Who said you have to fall completely in love with the person you marry? I'm 36 and have yet to find such person, I can't afford to waste anymore time if I want to have K*ds some day, soon.

What am I supposed to do about it?


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Never marry a woman unless she has more money than you and makes more money than you. Period. End of legal lesson.

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Then you will lose MORE than half upon divorce, at least in my state. :roll:

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Never marry a woman unless she has more money than you and makes more money than you. Period. End of legal lesson.


Don't know if there really is a legal lesson there but certainly think the lesson is enter into that type of marriage only if you want to be really, really, really miserable.

Gringa's think they are superior to men in general. Give them more money and a higher paying job and they no longer just think they are they become convinced of it and act accordingly.

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