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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:52 pm 
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Early in my first CR trips, I paid upfront and few times. AS soon as the chica got her money in her purse, out came the rules, no kissing, no daty, CBJ, etc. A lot of chicas know that if the guy pays upfront then they can tack on these rules and get away with it.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:21 pm 
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This is just modern role reversals. Typical a woman pulls some sh*t, a guys hits her and he gets hauled off for domestic battery. Now, guys pull the sh*T, the chick hauls off and whacks him and she gets hauled off. More and more women are getting snagged by the one-sided laws that they were instrumental in writing. NOT FAIR, NOT RIght but if he had hit her his a*s would be in jail, US or CR

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:20 pm 
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The difference is Budlite, this is a chica who IS known.....


This matters none at all - zero. Ask Ruffnutz, a lot of the chicas he liked and would protect and go to bat for ended up in the cons and theives section this website.

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I'm really amazed at how guys on here claim that this is a brotherhood yet nearly every time something bad happens to a chica, almost everyone sides with the chica. We don't know if this was a CRT member, but even if it was guys seem to side with the chica first unless it was one of the guys on here that others say have paid the membership fee and "are apart of the club" (something like that... reminds me of a high school clique).

In my opinion, the chicas have way less integrity than most Americans do so sorry but I tend to think the chicas are more to blame. Of course, we could argue about this for months.

If he had the nerve not to pay her and then to tell on her then I suspect he had good reason. Maybe he caught her stealing something or maybe she didn't even come close to doing what was negoiated, maybe she was on her period and bleed all over him.... maybe, maybe, maybe.... we haven't a clue what really happened at this point yet most are blaming the gringo.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:27 pm 
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Once again I read many opinions based on what is NOT KNOWN as fact.
As far as I can tell Vegas Bob is the only other person who has some degree of knowledge as to what took place.

IMHO, jumping to conclusions does not help common sense discussion.

Has anyone thought that perhaps the incident had nothing to do with money? Perhaps it had something to do with Valentina, even if she is Puta, was insulted so grossly that her reaction, right or wrong, was to slap the customer.

Perhaps the guy said something so way out of line as to speak ill of her family?
Remember that family closeness in CR as well as just about all Latin American countries, is a very serious and beautiful custom.

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Psychman, what I'm saying is, if the guy did the deed and didn't pay that was wrong. But, if they want to be hard and think of it as totally business, you don't smack a client. I've had difficult clients, but I've never smacked one. Why do they get more liberties when they are making way more money than me? Not condoning not paying for services rendered, but as we always hear on the board, IT'S A BUSINESS!


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If the guy did have sex and not pay he got off really easy with just a SLAP! In thailand if a monger refuses to pay after, the LEAST that will happen is the girl and police will come knocking at the door, and you will have to pay the police as well as the girl! But what CAN happen (and does happen) is the non-paying monger will be found dead and the Bangkok Post will write another article about a farang (white guy) commiting suicide in the land of smiles!! later

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last year i took 2 girls back to my room ...for what they said woube be a hot lesbo show,we agreeed on 100 total , fair price for all.Then we get to the room and as i know much better now very few lesbo in the delray, many say "you want 2 girls' yes they will tell you "she is my girl friend" but truth is the girls are trying to get a payday for both of them...back to the topic, well we are in the room and no lesbo action nothing ...i give them the word..start licking or out you go...one of them hops up and says..."give me the money" i say hell no its time to leave ...she says give me the money , i tell her get out and show her the door ..she wont leave and says she going to call the cops and i show her the door , and she says " i pushed her " she goes to the front desk and tells the clerk that i pushed her , and callthe police ...i said ..call them ...nothing happened i just left ...yes she told many girls in the bm about me , i just stay away from her...anyway on my last trip i see her and yes she has gotten some bolt ons ...and is looking so much better ...but i know there is a wolf in that body..she sees me and smiles and what i thought was kinda cool ....she comes up to me and says "you want 2 ladies for good show" we both just crack up, and now we are friends as i guess she thinks i am not a bad guy and she isnt as bad as i first thought....


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:05 am 
Yeah Chilimike, there is a lot of bait and switch amoug these girls and then they get pissed when you show them the door. I've only been to CR 3 times and I've shown too many the door because they either want paid first or they try to get out of what they said during the negoitations. I will admit that sometimes, depending on the chica, the ones that have hair on their back and want paid up front I'll negoiate setting the $$$ in plain view across the room so neither of us have the $$$ (this relaxes most of them... it is as if they want to make sure you have $$$). I was kidding about the hair.... just a little shock factor.

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As for what happened in the room.... who knows but it was probably something she did that motivated the whole thing... beginning to end. I trust my fellow monger (and likely fellow American) over any uneducated, take the easy road, thieving, coniving hooker any day. I truly like these girls, but I don't trust these girls.

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Questions have correctly arisen as to "what do really know about what happened behind closed doors." To Muffdiver....No I am not privy to the fine details. However as I said in my original post,I have been with Valentina at my house,and tend to think she isn't lying about what happened. (solely my opinion of the chica) The sequence of events make me believe her. Drillem and I were sitting by the coffee bar when it happened.We saw Valentina in an arguement with security with her sister standing there with her.Next we know Valentina is crying and leaves the place.Drillem goes over to Alajandra(whom he knows quite well) and asks what happened.She tells him the account as I explained it here. Alajandra would have no reason to lie at that point.
Also discussed here has been the issue of "violence againt women and violence against men." I believe the one who initiates the violence is at fault.However the burdon of proof SHOULD fall on the male because he is the stronger of the species.
I also wonder about the fairness of the Del Rey in these situations. If prostitution is a legal activity,and the DR is making millions of dollars from it,don't they have an obligation to "get it right". I don't always side with the chicas.In fact some time ago I reported that I got a chica barred because she tried to steal money from me at ANOTHER hotel and I caught her. I wonder what would happen when a guy smacks a chica,and refuses to pay her, because her BBBJ was lousy.
Chicas that make money hooking in the U.S. have virtually no rights because they are engaged in an illegal act. However they are not doing anything against the law here so why aren't they treated accordingly. Unfortunately their only recourse is to get their Tico boyfriends and have them kick the shit out of the guy because they aren't supported by the hotel or the police most of the time. It seems that the law of the streets applies here.


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Thank you for expanding on your position.

Moreover, I fully agree with your observations and perception of what possibly took place.

Have a peaceful Palm Sunday

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What should you do if a chica you met at HDR steals something from your room but you're staying at another hotel?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:33 pm 
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The first thing I'd do is to alert the CRT Brothers as to the chicas' name, physical description, and all other appllicable information.

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Traylor Park wrote:
What should you do if a chica you met at HDR steals something from your room but you're staying at another hotel?


If the hotel had her register when you brought her back the procedure is usually very straight forward. You inform the hotel of the situation and they will normally no longer allow her in the hotel.

Registering the chica is for the protection of the guest. Some guys get upset at the procedure or get upset when a girl is not allowed in their hotel but they have been banned for a reason. Usually a chica will give you a BS excuse (my brother works there, etc.) why they do not want to go to a particular hotel. Most times it is because they are not allowed in that hotel.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:03 pm 
I think TP is wondering if he should tell HDR management about the thievery since he met her there.


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While in Jaco, I would negociate with the girls for 50 bucks for 2 hours and a 20 dollar tip if the sevice was good. One night , on my way to the Beatle bar, I met a spinner named Carolin. She is 29, petite and pretty. We agreed on 70 for 2 hours. Back at the room she wanted the money up front. I tried to assure her she had nothing to worry about, she was persistant. I just walked to the door and started to walk out, she said where are you going, I said, back to the beatle bar. I told her I was very insulted that she didnt trust me. She changed her tune real quick and was one of the best providers of my trip, I did her again a few days later. I hate to hear it when something gets out of hand and turns physical.


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