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Dutch, You are living in a dream world. The HDR certainly does not need to be saved.

The "great women" there? Please get real.

CRT is a blip on the mongering radar screen as has been pointed out in many posts. Do some research.

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This is a very interesting thread, if depressing. When the attitude thing goes south, all the rest of it is moot. It's attitude that is critical, we all know that, and when it starts to smack of the American experience, what's the point? When I read of the "couldn't care less" attitude, shit, I can get that here in the States.

It comes down to "pressure", like how fishing "pressure" thins out, or spooks schools of fish. I saw that happen off the Jersey coast when I was a K*D with my dad. The decline came as scores of boats showed up where none were before. Chum in the water, oil slick, propellers churning the waters, and the fish got scared off, thinned out, full, or could give a shit about the little piece of bait I put in the water. (Metaphor unintended.)

"Pressure" fellas! You want all the comforts of home, modern amenities, a safe environment, well-stocked gambling spots with beverages and lots of guys burping - but then want to find untainted, unspoiled, new, innocent, inexperienced, virgin-like flowers, fresh for the picking? Get real!

If you want to find regular gfe's, not jaded, not tired, not disillusioned, not taking you for granted, you have to be willing to rough it a little at a location where the pressure is modest or non-existant. Or you have to go to a big enough city where even with pressure, there're large quantities of young girls just trying it out, maybe for the past month or two. Maybe she's had a few customers during that month, each of whom stunk of beer and B.O., and you come along and treat her like the rare gift she is, at which time she finally relaxes and gives you the gfe experience of her short life. She's 19 and actually likes you! What a concept!

Girls like that will stay with you, hold your hand without asking, and genuinely feel fortunate to be with you. They're almost giddy they're so happy. You're BETTER than a boyfriend to her at that moment for many reasons. Do you know ANY Colombianas in the BM who feel phuckin' FORTUNATE to be with your sorry ass?

IMHO, you can still be creative in SJ and find some nice girls off the beaten path, but don't expect them to fall in your lap. And it's not just the BM. Sometimes I get the feeling at some of the more popular MP's that the girls are sorry I walked in because they might have to work. Now, that sure does a lot for one's libido, now doesn't it? One thing that has improved for me over the years is my radar. When I was a whippersnapper, it didn't matter as much, but attitude now is like Viagra, except better. Girls who are "phoning it in", don't get me going at all, no matter how beautiful.

The idea that advertising ruins a good thing - like favorite fishing holes - is true, without any question whatsoever. Fortunately, if you don't mind roughing it a little, Central and South America still have unlimited potential, not to mention Asia. But you have to be willing to sacrifice a little more, spend more time on an airplane, and risk personal safety a trifle more, although only a trifle. And as far as advertising, I'm torn like others. We like to share and bullshit, but it comes with a price.

If you're in town, go to the BM because it's an institution. But if you're looking for a reliable source of young gfe's, who are as taken with you as you are with them, do some homework, read some other boards, and unleash that sense of adventure that got you into this hobby in the first place. Keep it new, keep it fresh, and get out of a rut. And then PM only me about what you find (lol!)

We'll keep the "pressure" low.

Jazz

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"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

Jazz Musician....extremely well stated. Thank you.

It's hypocrisy sometimes. We want Disneyland with orgasms. We're like easily-wounded youngsters, ready to react to the slightest hint from the chica that she doesn't think we're all-powerful and/or desireable.

I am still laughing at the previous poster who divides us all into two classes, hard bangers or pussies. As a pu*sy, I gotta agree.



You see, I discovered a long time ago that most mongers have horseshit track records when it comes to relationships with women. I've met and befriended the products of overbearing controlling mothers, bad divorces, rotten sexual relationships.... and we all gather in C.R. to fill in the missing pieces, to actually have the sex-love thing work for once, with us in control. It's rather pathetic sometimes, isn't it?


And, being totally unfit for a "real" love relationship, we're quite willing to blame the females. She has the bad attitude. She wants too much dinero. She acts depressed/disinterested/bitchy. She won't talk with me for hours while I build both my ego and courage in her youthful presence.

And of course, nothing is my fault. Granted, I am just another rider on her Tilt-a-Whirl, just another snot-nosed hick at the county fair. But I know I'm desireable, witty, handsome, virile, and in all ways perfect. So, if our interaction in the Blue Marlin is bad, it surely must be the bitch's fault, right?

Stop deluding yourself. It is what it is.

And for the guys who think MP's are the answer: MP's may offer fixed prices, but they certainly don't guarantee any particular service level Burn out rates are high. .

It has been mentioned by several members that they've had lukewarm MP experiences, that their favorita (even one who has been highly touted and praised here on CRT) was disappointing. No Shi'ite, Sherlock...she's working on a sexual assembly line, "enjoying the company" of numerous men, many of whom are fat (me), old (me), unattractive (me?) and probably unable to communicate with her in her own language. but of course, the bad session is her fault.

To the imperious rectum who refuses to acknowledge the difference between a "normal" employer-employee relationship and the client/provider relationships of this hobby, go back to your calculator, business plan and cool Fortune 500 management style...because none of that otherwise useful stuff even comes close to applying here. Why? Because the sex act in and of itself is completely unique and is more personal than any other human activity; your code of employee conduct cannot cover this one due to variability, over which you have nearly no control. Add to that your own damnable ignorance of her culture and your own ineptitude with "managing" relationships, and you'll quickly discover that your preconceived ideas of how to treat your "employee" won't work in costa Rica. You will of course be pissed off and blame the employee, because of course you're perfect

And you hard-bangers love that control. He who would say, "She's justt an employee and had better perform, damn it!" you really dig running people, don't you?

You grab her hair, her hips and batter her poon. You're a tough, take-charge guy who could give a rat's scrotum how she feels; she's just a disposable human resource, with the job title "C*m Dumpster."

Well, good luck with that. My "management style" will always be different from yours. .

As for me, I'll probably continue to play the game badly, because I'm too concerned with her dignity and intrinsic worth. Recognizing the damage that can be done both ways, my management style will continue to take her feelings into account and allow for that variability.

. I won't pay the dreaded cien for one hour, but I probably will still manage somehow to overpay. No, I won't give her my e-mail address, but I'll probably spring for a chicken dinner at Pollo Campesino. Aw shucks... I guess I'm just one of them there GFE pussies.




By the way... it's GFE. GFFE isn't necessary. Note that Girlfriend is one word, so Girlfriend Fantasy Experience is correctly abbreviated "GFE."

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Jazz and El Ciego I'm hooping whooping mad I can't write as well and say it as clearly as you guys have done. I feel I want to write what you guys wrote again and again - double, triple, quaduple post it! Every word is what I was thinking though I could have never wrote it so well.

Whining, complaining, bitching, cry baby Americans ......... oh God please give these girls a break.

Superbowl Sunday and Election weekend...

EL CIEGO for Mayor of San JOse!!

Like they say in Chicago, "vote early and vote often." Punch 5 - 3 for El Ciego!!

This is great watching these thoughts flow. I had an experience with a Colombiana last trip I had never had before in HDR. She shut me down so fast I was shocked. Really worse than most gringas in a bar in the states. I am not that gross I promise! Her name is Vanessa (very hot young hard body type) & there is a thread with a lot of posts here about her. Most Latinas have a pretty genuine smile & are warm hearted. This one’s attitude was as if why are you even talking lets go & where is your money! I am not bitching just stating what happened after all they have the right to act as they please just like us but like I told her, we both need to have a certain comfort level with each other for it to be mutually satisfying for me anyway or I rather not go. It wasn't an issue of money but of attitude!

Even though she hit my 90+ percent that I look for & at the time I wanted her over all the others. I mentioned to her in a nice tone of voice that I really don’t like machine sex so I would be glad to buy her a drink & talk at a table to get to know each other just a little. I let her know I was not a waste of time for her if she also did not waste my time. She just was rather huffy & walked off because she wants quick tricks & simply walks around with her dick to dollar calculator on all the time. We are going to have a certain % of Chicas like this it is only normal but no need to give them a hard time. I just smile or wink at them & let them sulk in their own misery since I know this is a waste of time trying to bring them out of it. Find one smiling on a good biorhythm works best for me. The best think for us to do as a group is reward good attitudes & politely avoid the bad ones.

These bad attitudes will never be for me but many guys go with this type. I rather be with Handy’s inflatable doll, at least I could turn the dolls face to look at me eye to eye while we do it & maybe even get a kiss out of the doll if she has had a good bath lately. I simply am not that desparate or insecure for sex that I have to be with this type. Some of the guys that go with them & explain oh I got a total GFE out of her seem to be the same ones that are always claiming they are bringing down the house at the casino.

I really thought this attitude was kind of funny because when I talk to them even though we know they are selling themselves you still have to treat them like a regular (fantasy) date to get the most out of it since no mater how you look at it they are still a WOMAN! (Can't forget guys we all arrived via ones birth canal). You have to make this effort I believe or you end up as a hard-banger too me & for me this is simply machine sex that I really don’t care for. It is hard for all in this game somewhat because of all the mixed signals. On one hand I am telling them I want a GFE but I don't want to get any feelings started????

The Ticas I see laughing sometimes as Gringos get frustrated with some of the Colombianas. They tell me we Ticas are nicer & warmer & not a calculator like many of the Colombianas. Hard to totally generalize & we all know we have found some great Latinas from all these different countries but we do see a few trends.

What happens many times is a few rotten apples ruin many. I hate to see an epidemic in HDR! I doubt if we do because these Latinas are not stupid & will always need our money but I still felt a change of hardness or depression with the Chicas my last trip. This will not affect the guys that work at things keeping themselves innovative & motivated since you standout as interesting in any language with your body language. I can find many in many places but I like the safety & convenience of operations like HDR. As long as I find what I want there it saves a lot of time & trouble.

Generally I find most Gringos are lazy also but we at CRT are less like this & make an effort to advance our knowledge & hone our skills as we continue to learn & share here. Many Gringos I listen to & meet seem to think they are on top of the world & push their money around. It works but not that well depending on what one wants. Most seem to make little effort to understand the native language & culture. If one takes this time like Jazz does to really understand you expand your horizons to increase your pleasure 10 to 100 fold I believe.

I love to go to CR for many reasons but what is more refreshing than anything is the fun loving non bitchey happy go lucky people I meet. It is truly a breath of fresh air from where I live. The worst think that could happen to me in CR is that I start seeing all this scornful unhappy faces I see all over the USA showing up with that born to bitch attitude.

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PacoLoco , I remember the girl You are talking about. Her 2 amigas , Carla & Natalie , tried to hook me up with her. They said she "likes" me. I didn't bite. She's pretty cute , but she was like a virgin in there. Natalie said she had only been coming there for a few days. I think she was only 18 or 19. She spoke no English at all and seemed very shy. The no-english-at-all is the deal breaker for me. She would need to be a perfect 10 for me to consider her. Bulldog is a different story. He can speak enough Spanish. He said that he just couldn't get her to do anything. Maybe her friends can help her get a few deals. She certainly has potential , so I hope she learns a few words and loosens up some.[/img][/url][/quote]

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Excellent posts Jazz & ElCiego,
thanks for bringing the dose of reality to this thread.

Yes they are still out there if you search hard, found one last trip and what a great time we had. (and don't ask, I'm keeping her number for myself you bitches ).


Great point, but let me throw this out there- maybe the girls atittudes are a direct result of gringos' expectations and not because they are just bitches. Those hot lookers with bad atittudes still make a lot of money without us that won't tolerate it. As sick as it sounds- Is there a demand down there for women with shitty atittudes? I think so... they may be acting like stuck up gringa twats with atittudes because thats what most gringos in the gulch are used to back home and expect from women. If a guy is new and weak and used to women "behaving badly" many hardcore chicas will spot him from a mile away, get their hooks in and then play those gringa emotional/sexual games to control him and his wallet as much as possible. I've seen it many times and allowed it to happen to me my first couple trips.

Ever stop to think this is her sales pitch? That's right, "I'm phucking hot and have an atittude (just like a 10 in the states) BUT, you can phuck me gringo!- IF you pursue me, play MY game, talk me into it and have the right amount of money." These types a fulfilling the fantasies of the guys that can't get that 10 back home to give them the time of day, but in CR can screw her-shitty atittude and all.
She's not hurting for customers, seems like she'd get plenty more if she was nicer but there's plenty of sick-suckers paying big money for her hot body, shitty atittude and bad sessions, just to say they did a "10".

I've seen mentioned many time about latinas becoming gringa-ized by coming to the states, but perhaps they're learning it by other means:
1) spending so much time with pathetic gringos that tolerate and expect (demand) bad behavior.
2) watching sick gringa behavior on TV, (in my room a chica remarked during a show of Curb Your Enthusiam where Jeff's wife was screaming and cursing at him) "I cannot believe a woman would act that way, is that how they are in Estados Unidos?"

On the other hand many of the chicas really do have a tough life to live, and it must be very hard for them at times to do what they do so surely they have bad days and get tired of it all. (Guess I'm still one of those GFE pussies also like ElCiego that tend to get compassionate and care sometimes.)

But my point is I believe there is a market (demand) at the HDR for a certain amount of chicas with shitty atittudes, and always will be.

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Paco,


Thanks for showing me another way to look at this & you maybe very well right.



I do take this into account of course we all have bad days but the one I was refering to was consistanly like this so maybe again you are right & that is her gig how she plays us?

Yes Paco & unfortunate as it may be they know many of us are like this & play on this. Most guys that post here have got to have some feelings or they wouldn't bother I would hope.

Well this maybe & it may work for her with many Gringos but not for this Gringo as a 10 in looks with this attitude or gig goes to a ZERO real fast too me. I bet this is of little consiquence too her as she replaced me but then again I hit the old Mikey-B next button & replaced her even faster. The money she could have made with me is forever lost & I see many not leaving with anyone but she is so hot she knows she will be leaving with someone soon & guess what she was right.

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Zippy, I'm pretty sure the Vanessa you are talking about is the one I helped set a friend up with the other night. I go up to her and say hello, try to be pleasant and ask her how much. She looks at me like I'm crazy. Just followed up with my friend today and he said it only got worse. She was absolutely gorgeous though, have to give her that.

I had this gorl once, smoking hot with a bad attitude (pic 2916). She kept reminding me I was a client, over and over again...so essencially I reminded her that I was her client, and that she was fired.

I agree with Zippy, a 10 with an attitude = Zero. Not even waste my time. A nice polite girl goes a long way for me. It is a requirement which I try to assess during the interview time.

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On speaking about what a chica said.... "All I can do is repeat what I was told."

I need the looks, but you are right, attitude is everything. And when one of those less attractive chicas hits on you, smiles a bit, and tries to be nice and playful, give them a little attention and a smile. I always try to appreciate the fact that they are making the effort.

I have only been in the DR twice this trip, the first time I met a decent Tica in about an hour, and we have been seeing each other for three weeks.
I believer her wene she sais she dislikes the " RAY ", she sais she gets a bad vibe, or bad carma wene there.

The second night I just went for the eye candy and to meet a few girls with no intention of taking one, Yes a couple of very hot ones,
about what i expected as you all have described.
I found some aggressive ones, but for the most part they just stood up against the wall with a blank look.

Worth checking out one or twice but not my kind of place.

Fiedler.

After it's all said and done... I STILL LOVE THE DEL REY!!!!!!

On every trip, whenever i see the 10 chicas with attitude, i'm tempted to take one up for pyschological reasons. This is what i'm thinking at times. "You can be all the bitch you want and have all the attitude but at the moment you have nothing to say, huh? I don't want you to say a word. Don't talk with your mouth full." It's another type of fantasy. But for whatever reasons I've never gone through with it...

My to do list upon my next arrival... Kumar and a chica with a bad attitude.