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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:50 pm 
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The HDR is all things to all people. Thursday night ,I'm sitting with my Nica when a friend of hers sits with us. I'm thinking of her for a friend. My Nica is thinking,"I wonder if I would be jealous if Scuba had sex with this chica.
Well, 30K and 4 hours later, we found out. I didn't know until the next morning that she was watching us thru the window. The friend was a very cute 19yo spinner.
My point is that, sure there are plenty of attitudes there, but you can still have a great time with plenty of chicas with a great attitude.

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"The HDR is all things to all people. " That statement is about as true as it gets and cuts to the heart of the matter. My own personal situation is that usually when I'm looking for a chica, I'm stressed out from work, just want some release and don't have the patience to go through the whole dance. But that is my laziness I admit. I totally agree with you guys that there are some great chicas still to be had in there. Just got to weed through the jungle to get to them. I'm actually in the market for a non-working part time girlfriend.. haha Go figure.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:31 pm 
"It is their JOB" someone said....... everyone that owns a business in CR keeps telling me over and over again that it is hard to get things done and even harder to get things done right so if this is their JOB then don't be surprised if you get the less than eager EMPLOYEE or TEMP CONTRACTOR that all the business owners talk about. :)

Just as their are good and bad gringos, there sure are good and bad chicas.

For the most part, unless you know her from experience, performance and attitude is a shot in the dark. Experience doesn't always help either since I hear as they get more comfortable with some they actually feel more comfortable giving less (unless you are good at holding her to the letter of the deal - they are like K*ds so they'll test every boundary to see what they can get away with).

Everyone likes to talk about the "good ole days" - take a picture, made a video because as time passes CR will definitely change, but mostly because dumb gringos that know no better will pay 150 eventually and then 200 and the gringas (ooops I mean the chicas) won't be happy with even 100 anymore.

No worries though - there will always be an emerging market elsewhere. I just hope the weather is as good in the next market.


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There is a real simple ph*cking solution to all of this repetitive non sense. Go to a place where prices are set and performance is a must. MP's, certain night clubs. The attraction of the Del Rey for so many guys here (I think) is the fantasy. The fantasy that the little cutie who just smiled at us picked us out of the crowd. It's like you are in college again and you are milling around the local campus bar looking to score. The fountain of youth has just swept you away. I personally have little use for the Del Rey scene except for people watching. Since I am semi fluent in Spanish it is a GAS to listen to the interaction between gringos and chicas. Chicas and chicas.

As for the sob stories, many I'm sure are true. Many I am sure are not. Why is it that guys go to CR to listen to bleeding hearts? Don't you go to have sex with several women? These women know that men who buy pu*sy are usually in 1 of 2 categories. Let me be imaginative about the classification hmm... hard core bangers (LAL) or love sick puppies (GFFE). Which do they hope they find? Why? The GFFE's get all caught up in their lives..leading to consistent biz, eventually sending money. I know I sound totally hypocritical now but, I have learned my lesson. Do not get caught up in all of their silly, immature BS. I'm telling you guys from experience that it isn't worth it. Do you want CR as a paradise or a prison? Simple question. Empathy, yes it is understandable. Pity, no.

I know TW got some critcism for his statement about giving a 7 a brain and they would be out in 2 years. I agree with that, wholeheartedly. I can't speak to the point Psychman made about the culture. But, these girls, particularly the hardcore regulars, think of themselves as martyrs. Their live is a misery..oh sorry me. If they got their shit together for just a short time it would make all the difference in the world. But, no. They need more clothes, more purses, better cellphone, better apartment (my Domi just moved into a 3bdrm. 2 bath w/jacuzzi apart. Has a computer room, storage room outside and a seperate dining/utility room. "But, I want to quit working at HDR." LOL..let me repeat. LOL

These girls are wired differently. If their business is suffering, men, it is NOT your fault. Hang around them long enough and you will begin to think it IS your fault.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:19 pm 
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So are you guys going to the mp's, so the HDR falls on its ass. Only to be reborn again I hope. Without the girls the hotel will fall. There are to many to choose from that offer nothing else but, home cooking and comfort. But the girls are missing.

The CRTer's have the power to change that. We are a large group and have the pull to demand discounts even on the services we go there for.

Gabby is the manager there, a very smart one. I think she'll recognize the trend and we
all can work a great relationship there. Women a MP prices?? You never know what can brew.


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So are you guys going to the mp's, so the HDR falls on its ass.

That will never happen. Many, many guys still go to the HDR. But in order to stop all this ridiculous talk about pricing it would be easier for guys to go some place where the prices are fixed. I really kind of like the idea behind the new Kamur. Hey, if you are an Indy girl at the HDR and you can get the bucks..more power to ya. It's just the guys need to shut up and quit complaining about the pricing.

If a person really did some soul searching, he would probably find that he could get what he wants much more cheaply by staying here in the USA. And, living in the Northern part of the country I have to factor in an "aggrevation" value.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:58 pm 
Dapanz1 - what you said is worth framing!


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Great thread too me & thanks everyone for your thoughts whether we agree or disagree this is good stuff! :P

TraylorPark, I really like you giving us these insights to these Latinas life’s! It is valuable knowledge to me. THANKS!

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Guys, it is not about feeling sorry for them it is about having empathy and compassion...

I know one we Americans are fascinated with the idea of rugged individualism; but this is not part of their culture, not what they learned. Latinas (most) learn to sacrifice for their families, and the values of fatalism and paternalism are very powerful forces in their lives. Most do not believe they can control their futures.

Lets be real, we are using them for sex, and they are using us for money. But, who has the power and chose here? For the most part, our power and privilege gives us the capacity to come and go as we choose, and they are stuck with lives none of us would want.

Sometime what comes across as unfriendliness IS bitchyness, sometimes it is depression. I would not recommend paying for time with a depressed girl, but cut them some slack.


I agree with this exactly. This is very very accurate too me! :wink:

We can not understand totally what these Latinas are going thru but if you see one suffering from the fallout of her work lets have EMPATHY for GOD sake! It is instinctive to react ugly to one that is not doing what you think she should for you but pull your head out (find another) & become more advanced in your thinking unless of course you know she is a mean BITCH that drugs guys or something along those lines. Really let’s have some compassion & think what if your daughter or granddaughter was born into these social economic conditions.

No way in my opinion can this be equated to some normal type of work? They are doing this against their true wishes & we all know this to be a fact! If they had our money would they still be working there to build up there 401K? I doubt it. If they could afford it they would be exactly like us phucking who they wanted not the other way around.

Not only to we enjoy an economic advantage that we exploit & enjoy but we have a big cultural advantage we exploit as well. These Latinas have been raised to be good & humble with a lot of respect toward men. This is why we think we are rock stars at times because they treat us so nice generally by their true nature so our head swells along with other things & we thing we are truly special. The ones that are not like this too me are the hard core crowd that over time have harden with use & abuse to the point anything goes. This is why I avoid this group like the plague & they know it.

I think we have a job to do as well & I don't think it is a regular job either. It is one of being a good human being with understanding & compassion but I still wouldn't send money as you take away their survival skills. We can not help the strong cave man desires we have & we have to tend to our needs no doubt but we can do it with class & dignity with possibly even a little flare to put a little happiness for a moment in all of our lives. This helps us all out! A good reputation kept by Gringos will help us stay more desired over others & this helps us get a better performance out of them. It can't hurt that is unless you lose your focus of reality & let yourself be pulled into the whole SHIT HOUSE as it goes up in flames! But this is our fault for not being strong enough to understand the true game of life.

Dapanz1 think what you said was much needed here.

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Dapanz1 think what you was much needed here.


I don't understand. Can you elaborate a bit?

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About bitching about price. It is a free market & I hope it stays this way but we still need to educate guys on what is a fair or normal price.

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I was at the Del Rey just one half hour ago. I have to agree with alot of the posters that things have changed there. Granted, because of the election, there was no alcohol being served tonight, but still, the place seemed relatively busy. Appears to be alot of overweight chicas that will approach you, but I wasn't interested in them. The few nice ones that were there seemed to have the "I don't care attitude." I left after about one hour of it. In the 3 weeks I've been here, I stopped in twice in the afternoon, and this was my first night visit. For me, the place is losing its appeal.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:56 am 
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This is not about price fixing ,totally. It's about saving the HDR and some of the great women there, getting the guys back in the place for some basic needs. We as a large group can do this.


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Just a question of curiousity. Who cares if the girls hang out at the Del Rey or somewhere else? If the Del Rey closed tomorrow I don't think too many people would shed a tear. Provided the girls simply moved somewhere else. Now...if on the other hand, CR locked down every place we frequent, that would be a problem.

All things go in cycles. One time not so long ago the HDR was just a blip on the hobbyist map. As time went on, it became the major player. Competition comes along and other places flourish. PR has long been a favorite of mine as well as Idem. HDR=Iglesia de diablo.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:21 am 
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This is not about price fixing ,totally. It's about saving the HDR and some of the great women there, getting the guys back in the place for some basic needs. We as a large group can do this.



Dude, I quit mentioning CRT to guys in CR since 99% of the time they say "what's CRT?"

This is not a large group as compared to the men that go to CR for mongering. Most of CRT's membership come and go just like the hooker population in CR. For most men, mongering is just a short term detour in one's life. 5000 members and very few are regular posters.... need I go on?

I wrote all of the above earlier and then deleted it with the hope that someone else would dump the bomb on you..... I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news (and reality). As a group, we have very little influence (actually none at all) and though I like CRT I've also heard chicas will run from you if they know you are a member.


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For me, the place is losing its appeal.


For me too, but the problem is me not the chicas. I just got tired of the same basic conversation as they likely have. Have you been to CR too much lately? Too much of it and you'll not appreciate it (we Americans, we have it so good, we love to complain, bitch and cry so I'm weary when we complain).

Concerning the HDR I realized that the end part with the girl (the part in the hotel room) wasn't any different than what goes on at the ZB and like places. I figured I could easily do without the HDR (last trip I pretty much did do without the HDR). In the ZB I didn't have to consider a taxi ride to and from my hotel and I didn't have to worry about security either and the end part is basically the same.

The HDR open or closed.... no biggie.


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