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 Post subject: Novios who cheat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:55 am 
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Perhaps I am perpetuating the differences between MMen and mongerers,but I am reading more and more on these threads about MMen who think it's OK to cheat on their Novias or wives. Now I'm not saying I think it's the right or wrong thing to do.Who am I to judge.I spent many years being unfaithful to 2 different wives. I just think it's interesting that many Gringos on this board have decided to fall in love with the working chicas here in Latin America,then go out and bang (or in some cases only BJs) different chicas. I just don't get it. CR is Paradise for a single man. Why commit yourself to a chica if you "need" to have variety. It's a lot more fun to bang everything in sight if you don't have to worry about the guilt involved with cheating on someone. Persoanally I got tired of lying to a wife telling her that I was either working or out with the guys while I was trying to Phuck myself to death. Is it cheating if Gringos "only" see MP chicas? hahahaha I don't think so.On this board we have evidence of guys falling in love (or lust) with MPs as well as other Pros,non-pros,and so-called semi-pros. Just some thoughts before my chica for the day arrives.


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VB, One of my favorites will bring a girl friend along, usually a different one each time....

As long as she is confident she is my favorite, she has no problem with another chica...as long as she gets to pick or approve of the other chica....

In my limited Newbie experience, I have found the working little darlings more receptive to other chicas than the gringas here stateside...

My ideal Novia would have to be Bi

anyway, it was great seeing you trip last and thanks for all of your usual sage advice and tips....

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Interesting topic: Well I for one have two things to say on the subject.

Back in the old country (Italy) it was an accepted practice to have the wife who handled the household duties, the motherly duties, and overall family duties, yet also understood the mans needs outside the bounds of marriage as it pertained to sex. The term (GUMARA) or pronounced (GUMAD) was basically the girlfriend who performed to the needs of the man and was never looked upon as a threat to the wife, but served one purpose and one purpose only. The wife had the status and the fact that her husband slept with the (Gumara) never mattered. Now I’m not saying this is right or wrong it is just the way it used to be.

Now let us move forward to the Latin culture. I have as previously stated come full circle. I have been M man and went back to being a monger. With that said when I was in a relationship its funny, the (NON PROS NEVER WORKING GIRL relationships I had) the girl was never ever jealous of the thought of me with another women. They weren’t happy with it, but understood it. (See Above). On the flip side of that coin, the working girl, semi, pro, full time pros whatever were maniacs regarding this. They would flip out fly off the handle; go into rages regarding their jealousy. In looking back it wasn’t jealousy, but someone infringing on their meal ticket plain and simple. A little off topic but it brings me to point two.

Back to being in a relationship, well there is something about having an intimate sexual relationship with true feelings with someone you care about and want to spend “QUALITY TIME WITH”. Whether it is at the beach, the mountains it doesn’t matter, the intimacy can be great and knowing its NOT a P4P situation makes it even better. She can be the most wonderful caring individual, beautiful, performer ever but it doesn’t stop our sense of who we are. We are hunters by nature and need our outlets. Is it right or wrong who knows….

I’ll leave you with this. I think Peter Lugers has the best steak in North America. It is the finest meal, consistently I’ve ever had. I could probably eat there 300 nights a year… But no matter how good it is, I still need some lobster, Italian, Chinese etc the other 65 days. Perhaps I’m simplifying or over exaggerating but that’s the way I see it.

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VEGAS BOB;
ACCORDING A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, A BJ IS NOT SEX. THATS MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:29 pm 
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Is it cheating if Gringos "only" see MP chicas? hahahaha I don't think so.


I think VB is correct. Does the illusion that a blowjob or sex in an MP is not cheating make you a better M Man?

We men want our cake (steady, emotionally satisfying novia) and eat it (all the hot sex with any hot women we can get) too.

We are men and we lust; and we take action based on the risk/return tradeoff.

Stuck in the states with my hot brazilian novia & lusting after the ticas,
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P.S. I am dog like you (todos hombres son perros)


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Well as the guy that coined Mmen ... it can mean different things to different people. I live in CR, so I could have basically any working gal when I want. But for me I found I wanted something different. Im not saying it is better or worse, just different.

Mmen ... or at least me, want a (yah I sound like a chick) emotional and mental relationship with a women, not just physical. I'll be honest, ofetn the best time I had with a gal at the DR was BEFORE we left. For me, the deed was fun at the time but empty after.

Some guys just want sperm receptacles (LAL guys). Someone to tear up the sheets, blow a few loads and then be alone. I dont see anything wrong with that, it just isnt me.

The background above was needed to explain my answer to the question. Men have biological needs and I do believe that chemically we are driven to spread seed. Sure when I see a hottie Id like to see her naked, or how she moves her hips slightly different. But at this point in my life all the other Non phucking time to me is just as important.

For me, a BJ is laying down and jerking off with a womans mouth (haha). So for just a BJ I can see it without feelings. For me doing more does stir emotions and why BJs are allowed for me and more is not.

but that is just me


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:45 pm 
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Being from Puerto Rico and knowing how the vast majority of PRs think and behave, I feel I can contribute on this very interesting topic.

Although I've been away for quite a few years, it used to be common practice for a PR man to have a "chiya" on the side just for sex. This applied to men who had a wife or a girlfriend. What was peculiar about the custom/tradition is that the man's wife a/o girlfriend would more than likely know about it and allow it as long as the husband took good care of her, the Ch*ldren (if any), and her.

I believe the custom is still observed just about anywhere where a PR (or Hispanic) population has established itself (i.e., New York, Hartford, etc).
However, once the man starts to spend too much on the Chiya the wife will then find the other woman (not the husband) and fight for her possession (the husband).

As I grew up in PR I saw many fights between wives and Chiyas. The funny part was that the guy would normally stand back and watch them. The wife will fight like an Alpha female wolf.

I would not be surprised if it is the same in CR.

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Muff,
I spent my whole life living in Brooklyn, in a mostly hispanic neighborhood, mostly Puerto Ricans and some Mex, DR, and Colo. This probably only goes on in PR now, because they tend to adopt to the gringa way of life pretty fast.

A few of my closest childhood friends are PR. And the PR girls that I knew must have been "gringa-tized" because if one of my PR buddies cheated on his PR girlfriend, he (not the mistress) would catch a beatdown from her and her brothers.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:12 pm 
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Orange...

Although times and people indeed change with the times; please do a little research and ask some of the older Hispanic guys (50 and up) and see what they tell you about having a "chiya" on the side.
I do know that in today's USA gringa land society the women have
become less submissive and will beat up on a guy in a nanosecond.

Bet you a drink...

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I am what they call a serial monogomist. I love to get deep (in more ways than one) with one at a time. Then, when it's over...NEXT. Then, I'm faithful to that one for an unspecified time and the cycle repeats and repeats and repeats. Guys like me just need to remember not to marry each one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:42 pm 
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Dapanz,

Are you talking one hour, one day or one week??? :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:05 pm 
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About a year ago several trip reports were basically, "I stuck it in this hole.......... and then I stuck it that hole............ and then I stuck it this girl............. and then I stuck it that girl........... and then I stuck it her mouth................. and then I stuck it in her brown eye.................and then I did cowgirl...........and then I did reverse cowgirl..................and then I did her dog style................and then I didn't have any more leche so I got drunk again."

For some guys sticking it in a differant hole every day is perfect.

Other guys want to stick it in someone they are more familiar with. And that VB, is why I think some guys prefer cheating w/ "novias."

To each his own and live and let live. BUT, thank God guys like you........ like what you do........... and are willing to advise the rest of us. Kinda like a fishing buddy telling you his favorite pond, favorite bait and how much the farmer is going to charge you to fish it.

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I just do not get it. You have a country full of lovely young ladies who for a small price and a set amount of time will satisfy your sexual desires. Why would you limit yourself to just one. Now I can fully understand seeing one lady a number of times in one trip. This is a pleasure I have grown to enjoy myself. But in between those visits I find gratification in other places. I can enjoy someone without possessing them.

The only thing I can see is that those of you who cheated on your novias and your wives were seeking the pleasure of cheating. Cheating itself being the pleasure. You have a wife in the U.S. who has access to divorce and alimony. So you travel to San Jose to cheat in safety. Are not having a wife you go to Costa Rica in search of a substitute wife (Novias).
Novias not having access to divorce or alimony being a much more financially wise decision. Finally I have figured out why you guys have Novias!
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I think those of us who practice having a novia/wife plus play on the side are all honorary Latinos :twisted: . The above explanation by Capo says it all from a cultural perspective at least. The women love to call us "Perros/Dogs"...but they continue loving their "puppies"...and we're glad they do. If it were all just BBBJs and P4P, the sexual world would be boring and ugly to me...we LOVE some drama and romance...even if each party's motives are suspect or undefinable...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:00 am 
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I just don't get it. CR is Paradise for a single man. Why commit yourself to a chica if you "need" to have variety.


VB I agree with you on I don't get it when a guy is trying to fall in love with a P-lady?? This makes no sense what so ever too me & makes a very embarrassing situation to say the least. I realize you have had your Ch*ldren in life & older like many of us with some experience that hardens ones heart & may not have a need for any type of commited relationship. I like the way you live & think you have one of the best handles on the situation in CR that I have seen but there is something that these P-ladies will have trouble giving you in life & you know this all too well I would think.

You can get the warm body have great sex & fun laughs with the P4P types but you will have trouble having true chemistry that comes with deep down emotion that glows form you & a special person that connect on this level. It glows from both people & is beyond sex & laughter which is fun for me to see this in couples regardlesss of what they look like. Is it worth it who knows everyone has to decide for themself but it certainly is a nice thing to experience! :wink:

I think many men come & go with variety according to the situation in their relationships but others just want both from the get-go that warm fussy feeling they get with someone they really care about & want that hot exciting sex with something new. You can not blame a guy for getting it all if he can pull in off. There is certanly something to be said for both camps & if you can have two completely different camp grounds all the better too me. :P

Tman nice little phrase that sums up how Latinas are:
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The women love to call us "Perros/Dogs"...but they continue loving their "puppies"...and we're glad they do.
This is unlike a gringa who forces her DOG out to the DOG house & punishes him beyond the point of repair! :evil: :idea:

PS CR is a paradise to all men for all men! AMEN

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