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 Post subject: New Immigration Law
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:01 pm 
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The following is a post on another board, from Ryan Piercy the Administrator of the Association of Residents of Costa Rica, concerning the new Immigration law.

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IMMIGRATION UPDATE 01-2006



Re: New Law Passed



Over the past few months we have received constant requests about the changes in the immigration law, and finally it is possible to comment. On December 12th the newly approved law 14269 was finally published, and will actually go into effect 8 months after this date. So what can be expected now?



Unfortunately it is still too early to determine too much, as two vital aspects of the law don't exist. The first is the sub-text (rules), which will explain how the actual procedures will be. This has yet to be written by immigration, who are responsible to do so now that the law has passed. Finally, even once written on paper, the more important aspect will be HOW the immigration department actually processes applications. It is necessary to remember that the main reason for the new law is supposedly public security for Costa Rica, and criminalizes aspects such as smuggling illegals in or providing them with lodging.



In any event, the law does show us that our lobbying efforts have paid off, as the amount for Pensionados remains the same. We also managed to convince the government to keep the Rentista category. At first the amount was also the same, but it appears they have changed this at the last minute. An individual would still require $1,000 per month, but a couple may require double, plus $500 more for each Ch*ld. Still we feel there will be nothing to worry about for the majority of those interested, as for several months ARCR has been investigating options to ensure there will be a minimum impact for those interested. Contact us to find out what your options may be.



For all those who already have residency (or apply before the new law comes into effect) remember that new details, such as required amounts will not affect you. However one point that may be of benefit is that the new law specifically allows for those with 3 years to be able to change to Permanent Residency Status. Again, the details will be up to immigration, but for many this status proves to be more beneficial and less complicated to maintain.



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Thanks once again to Ding Dong for keeping us inormed.So does this mean that I NEED to obtain residency or not. I prefer not to go through the cost and paperwork as I discussed previously. What does this group think will happen after the elections and a new President. This article once again seems to say that the "intent" of the law is NOT to punish the Gringos who want to live here and bring their money. Arias,who is expected to win the Presidency,is supposed to be in favor of the boost to the economy that the Gringos bring here.Hopefully he realizes that by making it more difficult to stay here,less Gringos will come. Fortunately I still qualify under the new Pensionado rules.I guess I will still wait at least until the elections to decide what to do.


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VB,

Think as we all basically reached the conclusion the last time this came up
that the wisest course of action at this time is to sit tight and see how the new President and his administration seem to lean on this issue.

I mainly posted this to show how inaccurate the Tico Times article of a few weeks ago was. Ryan Piercy of the ARCR actually spent time with the legislators and lobbied hard to keep the requirements reasonable.

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IMHO the Tico Times is a rag and always is stirring things up. Don't ask me why but for some reason, this time I'm a bit worried about what I'm hearing about the perpetual tourist status. And I've been here 6 years and heard this rumor come up every few years. I think I'm just gonna go ahead and get married this year, get the cedula and get it out of the way.


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I think I'm just gonna go ahead and get married this year, get the cedula
:shock: :shock:

I know a few guys who have done that. It's cheap, effective and you do not have to live with them :roll: . I still worry about the legal ramifications down the road if she ever decides to come after some assets. :(

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I think most sign the necesary documents to protect themselves. Don't know if they have ways around pre-nups down here like in the States. If it comes to that point though, it will probably be a friend.


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Thirdworld wrote:
I think most sign the necesary documents to protect themselves. Don't know if they have ways around pre-nups down here like in the States. If it comes to that point though, it will probably be a friend.


Pre-nups may be the most dangerous words in an attorneys vocabulary. Yours will tell you it is airtight and hers will tell her he can shred it like confetti at a hearing. Nice thing about being a lawyer you have a 50/50 chance of being correct :lol: :lol:

A"friend" is always solid until the question of money is raised. Then LOOK OUT :roll: :roll:

Guess I have become cynical :D :D

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All valid points. You just never know.


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GUYS;
JUST RETURNED FROM THE STATES WHERE I OBTAINED MY POLICE REPORT THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR 6 MONTHS. SINCE I ALREADY HAVE MY BIRTH CERTIFICITE AND THE OTHER DOCUMENTS ALLREADY AUTHTHENTICATED BY THE COSTA RICA CONSULATE, I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THE RENTISTA PERMIT. I WILL MEET WITH THE PARA LEGAL NEXT WEEK AND REPORT HERE ON WHAT SHE ADVISES ME.
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I have made an appointment with the immigration paralegal (Flora who advertises under legal service in the Tico Times) for this coming Thursday and I will ask her what the best route to go is.
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Yesterday, a fellow brother of this board and I visited Flora, the immigration expert.
Yes, the law passed and apparently, all of us who exit the country for 72 hours and return have until August to either apply for Pensionado or Rentista status. The changes in the law took over 5 years to get approved and according to her (the expert) a change in administration will not change the passage and implementation of this law.

My documents were in order but my newly acquired police report from Las Vegas must now be authenticated by the CR Consulate in Los Angeles. We are waiting for an e-mail telling us weather or not the consulate will allow me to send the document to a friend in Los Angeles and have him present it on my behalf for authentication. If they don't allow that, I will have to personally fly to LA to get it done.
Once I have that the immigration lady will submit my docs to immigration and the process could take 6 months. While waiting, I will still have to exit the country every 90 days. The cost will be $700.00 US.

Remember, we can all come and go every 90 days but that will change in August at which time, immigration will be on the lookout for "perpetual tourists". At thier whim you could be banned from entering Costa Rica for 10 years which would be a blow to any of us who own property here.

I will keep you updated as I proceed down this complicated and expensive road.

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I really hope she is wrong. It just doesn't make sense to me. They certainly will be cutting off their noses to spite their faces. This law will keep a lot of Gringos from moving here with their money,because the procedure is so complicated. There are also many people who will give up and move elsewhere once they see what's necessary in addition to the cost. My brother has been at it for over a year and he's not done yet.


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Steve, I'll bet you a beer in Oct this is not the case ... too much $$ to lose from the CR government. Smart to play it safe .... but I'll bet you


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Yeah, I'm making arrangements but my sources tell me that this is just the same old grumbling that we hear every few years. There has never been an official provision for "perpetual tourist". It has just been an interpretation of the law. Yeah, right, see what they think when the $'s start flying out of CR.


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The problem is she in not wrong. She showed me the new statutes. Everything checked out. I am not an alarmest. This is real - many other immigration experts at the AARC for example agree with her interpetation.
Vegas Bob: I brought up the fact that Costa Rica could be shooting themselves in the foot. She told me that the problem is that Costa Rica is getting many undesirables from Columbia, Venesuela and Nicaragua and there is no way to seperate Americans from the other forigners. She further stated that the enconomy won't suffer as we all think because they will wind up with desirable residents who will pay thier own way.

As to the "perpetual tourist" situation - It has always been illegal but immigration has never had the power to enforce. After Aug.1st, they will.
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