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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:57 am 
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This is a tough one! There will always be a grey line on this. I will give several examples:

1. I have a friend who spent a week with a girl (who I introduced to him). As we were leaving from Rio, he told her he did not wanted her to be with anyone one of his friends. She accepted ( i bet she is laughing at him) and they kissed. I have been messing with him that I am going to take her as soon as I see her. He really does not like this, but it is fun to pull his chain.

2. I have been in situations where I am with a girl, and a guy comes and offers her X amount more than I am paying her. Some times, the girl has stayed, some times they have left with the higher bidder.

3. I have once (in CR) seen a girl I liked talking with a guy and approached her. I did not offer her more $$ r anything. Just introduced myself and invited her for a drink. She accepted and we ended up spending three days together.

Now, I believe there is a fine line to walk here. The circumstances can be way too complicated to judge. I always (excpet the one time in CR) leave girls alone when they are trying to cut a deal with a client. I highlight cut a deal, because they are working and i respect that. If a deal is not cut, or a guy cannot make up his mind, to me the girl is fair game.


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With all due respect, no fine line on #2 for me. That gentleman and I are gonna have problems if he does that right in front of me. He might as well just spit on me while he's at it. That's pretty much what he's doing.

And it's not even about the girl at that point (there are many other girls), it's a matter of principle.


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I have been in situations where I am with a girl, and a guy comes and offers her X amount more than I am paying her. Some times, the girl has stayed, some times they have left with the higher bidder.

UP10,
With all due respect, no fine line on #2 for me. That gentleman and I are gonna have problems if he does that right in front of me. He might as well just spit on me while he's at it. That's pretty much what he's doing.

I totally concur. Don't come over and piss on my parade, I don't care how much money you have to offer! That's a total show of dis-respect, and it has nothing to do with the chica. :evil:

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Hey, in a simplistic way, if a guy cuts a girl loose, she's fair game. He doesn't own her.

Now, if they're "dating" a lot and he's your friend stay away.

What if he's just letting her go for the nite and you know they'll be together tomorrow or sometime soon- well in that case I'd say stay away if the guy is a friend of yours.

If he's not a friend of yours, perhaps even just a fellow monger with whom you have a casual acquaintance and he cuts a girl loose to go make money, she's available- just be very discrete.

There are some girls a guy has feelings for where they have a friendship as well as a P4P relationship and as much as possible I don't want to step on that. But how many members are there in CRT? Could you imagine how few and far between the available talent would be if each of us claimed a girl or two at the BM/KL?

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Last trip there was some young guys(mid 20's) about to get into it over a chica at the HDR lobby bar. One was yelling at his friend "You knew I liked that girl and you phucked her anyway! You're an asshole!!" They obviously had too much to drink but it was kind of funny from where I stood, thought the one guy was going to jump on his friend, security had an eye on them and I'm sure they'd have stepped in if things got any louder or out of hand. But what idiots, like she was his high-school girlfriend or something. :roll:

Women have come between friends for thousands of years though, I won't mess with a friends favorita if he's around. (Unless it's Latinoheat) :twisted:

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Orange,

Its been more than once that it has happened to me.

One time it was actually funny. My girl received a call from supposedly an airline pilot telling her he would be in town for a few days. She explained the situation and I told her to go with the pilot (she said he spends on her about $400USD in goodies a day). The guy, just turns out, was just making sure he had a "sure thing" booked, because he was a no show and no call. She calls me that night to get together again, but hey, I did not wait, I already had someone else.

Although I would not approach a girl that is with someone else, i do not find this practice, when done to me, disrespectful. I do find it annoying.


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I have to agree with Orange, If My freind ask me not to do something and at the time of his asking I do not state I can not do that. Then I would be shaming myself and disrespecting him.

But I would hope my freind would rather see me with a good thing than someone else.


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One thing that seems to have an underlying sound to it here & now I know why so many men have so many problems they make for themselves. I guess it goes with the territory of men sleeping with women. Kind of what El Ciego mentioned that P4P sex isn't viewed by many as all that casual by many it appears. I guess we are so conditioned that women only have sex with men that are special to them or sex is such a special act that you have to have feelings to do it we forget we are pay for it & start wanting to believe the fantasy is real? Too many men seem to start getting mixed up with seeing a p-lady regularly so now he starts thinking they are dating or she is his girl???
This is a dangerous way to start thinking for me anyway. The only way I see this happening if someone takes her out of the work pool because when she walks in an establishment for ill repute she is up for grabs to any player.

I have seen several for years & think the world of them but they are hookers & only one that I know of still comes out to work. I tell guys she is worth it & promote her business somewhat since I know they need money & I don't want to fund their life so if I don't want to go with her I tell other guys about her whether he is a friend or not a friend. I can't seem to grasp this concept that hey that’s my girl yet she is going out the door with truck loads of guys. I guess maybe I am the odd man out but I would be embarrassing my self to say this or think this after all she is a prostitute??? :?

I just think common sense tells us no one owns these p-ladies & they are available to any man that can pay so how can she be any ones gal when she is everyone’s gal??? I would not cross someone’s path over this kind of stupidity but would think much less of a guy that is this shallow in his thinking.

I had one I wanted so bad a few trips back. I had waited at least 2-3 hours for the right one & there she was. She was new & I found out all the details because some guy asked me to translate for him. Well he just barley beat me to her & she seemed far more interested in me (at least we want to believe this is true) & it was a lot to do with she could talk to me so she felt she could trust me I believe. It would have been easy for me to steer her my way & wreck the deal for this guy since he could not understand any Spanish at all. Even though I really wanted this one by far more than any other Chica I honored the unwritten coed between 2 men he spoke first & until he cut her loose I would not make a move & actually without my help he may not have closed the deal on her as he was very tentative. Just for the record she was the best thing I had seen & never seen her before & she left with him for $50 for 2 hours. No worry I found another that I would have missed that I liked but it took me another hour & a half to do it.

Regardless of the assholes that abound at times in the Blue Marlin I still have my standard coed of my behavior I have to live by but this is just me. :?

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This discussion is kind of ridiculous I know that emotion is always involved with sex, and I can see guys getting kind of jealous, but here's how this whole "she's mine, don't touch her" thing is starting to sound to me. .
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Guy #1: Hey, you ate a cheeseburger!

Guy #2: So? I like cheeseburgers.

Guy #1: But I was gonna have the cheeseburger! Damn it, dude, you just disrespected me!

Guy #2: They're still serving cheeseburgers. Go ahead, enjoy.

Guy #1: No man, you don't get it. I wanted a f***ing cheeseburger! i have deep, misplaced, ridiculous feelings for cheeseburgers!!

<Guy #1 throws punch at Guy #2, Security guard in burger clown costume intervenes>

The End.

1.) Sorry, but we're talking prostitution here, not romance. Okay, so she bangs someone else. Presumably she'll be available to you at a later time.

2. I would think that true friends would be happy to share a lady, if she gives good service, is hot and has a good attitude. After all, don't we post Girl Reviews so our fellow CRT'ers can maybe enjoy the good ones?

3. Yeah, it's not cool to step into a guy's path when you know he is trying to negotiate with a particular girl, nor is it cool to butt in line, to grab a product from the hand of another shopper when you see it's the last one on the shelf, etc. That is indeed disrespect.

4. If this was an auction on eBay, outbidding would be expected, but I think that any guy who butts into your conversation after eavesdropping on your negotiations with a girl and offers more money is a rotting rectum and should be chastised.

5. Non-pro girls are a separate issue. If I ever am jealous, immature or stupid enough to eye-fuck or hit on a CRT brother's non-pro lady, I would hope to receive a solid beating...or at least be verbally put in my place.


If we're talking about hookers, it's first-served, first-come.

Just MHO. Take it or leave it. Again, I say...treat your friends with respect.

And, until he makes himself my enemy, every other guy in the Gulch is my friend.

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El Ciego wrote:
...Unless of course, the guy is trying to compensate for undersized genetalia or a lack of blood flow to said genetalia.

EC, Have we met ?!?!?!?!?!?!!? :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:08 pm 
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Bravo El C!

It seems to me your either looking to pick a fight or your not... :evil:
It's all in the aproach. :roll:
I stopped mongering in TJ because some drunk A-hole at the chicago club
decided he just had to have the the little chica I was working over.
Do I need to move further south again! :shock:
I hope not...
Luckily I haven't experienced any of this kind of juvenile behavior in CR, and I damn sure hope I can keep it that way, but as far as I'm concerned it's just another good reason to avoid the HDR, especialy on Friday and Saturday nights. Things just get a little too crowded for my liking, and I think that tends to make tempers a little short :x No matter how much puntang is available.

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On two occasions while I was translating for my wingman, I too found myself getting into a deep conversation with the girls and really wanted to hook up with them. I asked my wingman if it was cool, and he smiled and said go ahead. My wingman and I have know each other since we were K*ds and don't hang out much anymore. Unless we're in Costa Rica, because I couldn't think of anyone else I know that would partake in what CR has to offer. My wingmans has good taste, both the girls were incredible!! What's interesting is that I never would have approached these chicas myself, not my taste. But after getting to know them a bit, they sort of grew on me. I owe my wingman... one chica next time. After I told him how much fun I had with his picks, he suggested the next time I find a chica I want that he will try her out, next time in CR.

I would never try to talk to any chica (gringo) while some other guy was talking to them. This pisses me off!!!

Happy hunting... :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:54 pm 
i want to apologize to whom it may concern, i see now i was completely in the wrong, if i could go back and change things i would in a heart beat. not to make excuses but i drank alot more than i usually do, and of course i was thinking with my little head.


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As I stated early in this thread tolerance is important. Every guy has his own code of ethics or lack there of. I think it is unfortunate I read so many guys here saying that if a guy does this he and I will have a problem or something similar. It is never worth it to fight for a girl in a foreign country. Nothing you could possibly gain from a confrontation could ever come close to the possible problems that could result.

You are not a coward walking away from a problem over a girl who is working. Just get a beer find another and be satisfied in knowing the other guy is wrong. LOL


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:00 am 
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Toledoguy wrote:
Would this have been an unethical or
inappropriate intrusion? Should I have talked with this stranger at the bar
to get his OK?


In my opinion, yes, it would be inappropriate. I would never interrupt an ongoing "negotiation". Now, if she comes over on her own, that's a different story. If the guy had a problem with it, all you say is "She came over on her own".



How long can the "ONGOING NEGOTIATION" go on? I've seen a lot of guys waste the girl's time. She is there to make some money and if he can see that another guy wants her then he should "ACT NOW" so he doesn't lose out. That is, if he really wants her verses just wasting her time.

This thread started off concerning respect for mongers, but how about respecting the ladies time and the K*ds and/or drug habit she is trying to support. If a monger isn't interested the proper respect for the ladies is to set her free - free to anyone.

In the case that she is a favorita, I can't go there because to have a working girl as a fantasy pretend sort of kind of like girlfriend or whatever just doesn't make sense to me.


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ETHICS..... :shock:

WHAT ETHICS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT... :? :?

KANT...MILLS...ARISTOLE :wink:

Immanuel Kant (1724-1804) :idea:

John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) :?:

Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) :!:

MAYBE BEFORE SPEAKING I WILL JUST REMIND EVERYONE OF WHAT KANT HAD SAID..... :idea:

The mind could be a tabula rasa, a "blank tablet," :idea:

PLAIN ENGLISH: MAN DOES NOT THINK WITH HIS BIG HEAD, BUT HIS LITTLE ONE... :P :P :P

:arrow: An analytic proposition is one in which the predicate is contained in the subject, as in the statement “Black houses are houses.” The truth of this type of proposition is evident, because to state the reverse would be to make the proposition self-contradictory. :wink:

PLAIN ENGLISH... SHE WAS FAIR GAME.... :x :x :x

WANT MORE.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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