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My dos colones..........

First issue.....Option "C". If she agrees to specific things, and then (after giving you a raging hard-on) changes her terms, there is no more negotiating on HER terms. She's the deal-breaker, and I will tell HER what she will receive for compensation. She will get less $$$ for whatever she finally agrees to do, or she's out the door. And she can be happy that she got a few drinks out of me. Take a cold shower, and head back to the bar for the next one. BTW, this only happened to me once, but this is exactly how it played out. She agreed to BBBJ, but then after things got hot and heavy, she insisted on CBJ. I gave her both options. She stood firm on the CBJ, so I sent her on her way. She wasn't happy, but when I returned to the bar, I watched her afterwards, and she walked away with another sucker within 15 minutes. I, on the other hand, ended up with a beautiful little Nica spinner for the night. "All good things come to those who wait" !!!

Second issue....fair amount for limited services. For this scenario, I would simply give her "fair market value" for the services that she was willing to render. We all know what a "fair" price is for certain services / time, etc. My compensation to her would be based on what I've paid in the past for similar services. I wouldn't try to ph*ck her out of money, but I would only pay what I feel it is worth. After all, a great ph*ck is worth much more than a simple hand-job! But I'm not going to pay her PSE rates if she's (hypathetically) only going to talk dirty to me!

Third issue.....insisting on being paid up front, despite earlier assurances.
This one's easy. NO PH*CKING WAY! This situation has only happened to me twice. The 1st time, I told her no, and she started to get persistent. The mood was instantly gone. I reached over, kissed her cheek, and I whispered "lo siento" in her ear, and said good-bye. She quickly changed her mind, and told me that she would wait until we were finished to get paid. But the mood was lost.

The 2nd time was similar, but it was a TLN chica. After persistently asking to be paid up front, I politely asked her to leave. Then she agreed to wait until morning to get paid. Right then, I decided that my 8 hour TLN would be about 7 hrs and 59 minutes too long. Although this one started to beg and plead, going on about the sick n*ño, cab fare, rent, blah, blah, blah, etc. Sorry sweetheart, you screwed up. You could've had a nice night in an air conditioned suite, mucho sexo, multiple org*sms, breakfast in the morning, a nice propina and cab fare. Now, instead, you have to head back to the bar and start over with some other gringo.

My take on these situations may sound harsh, but they're not harsh at all. If you terminate the transaction in a polite, gentlemanly like manner, you're at least telling her (in a round-about way) not to take it personal. After all, it all starts out as a business transaction. YMMV.....
Mikey B.

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Wow, this is really pathetic that I am sitting here at 3:19 in the afternoon reading this with great interest and replying. I have never had them ask for the money upfront after we have agreed to pay at the end. I have had the "sexo de oral sin condom" because of a language breakdown and in one case send her packing with a $10 for her trouble that she threw back at me. The only other time I sent a girl packing is when we went to the room without any discussion of what was expected and she started to negotiate when she was naked in the bed, she left unhappily also, but was not as upset.

60 days and counting, anyone else in town January 18-21?

Mikey-B,



Nice touch & good way to be I believe. I don't see this as harsh but real. Strength with class & truths gets you everything weakness gets you nothing but phucked over. Remember it is purely a business transaction & don't let her beauty get in the way of your thinking this intrigues them & gets you better service latter.

Prolijo,

Your post is more complicated to answer Let me just menion how I handle my deals.

1st I meet them & talk to decide if they are worth anytime or not once good vibes come out I ask if they want a drink. What they drink & how they respond tells me a lot. Much more conversation with many jokes making fun of myself & how our culture has different quirks, etc.
Once comfortable & earn a short period of trust that I am a true live human being with real feelings, also we move to what they want. I let her set the price because by now she knows I am not stupid.

Next sometimes they even start low surprise like 60 (most start by saying going rate is 100). I tell them around 50 is as low as I pay & it goes up to 100 if the time is more than I could have imagined but one thing I always say is I am not going anywhere unless we both find some joy with each other. Most say lets go & I tell them look I don't pay up front either it ruins the temporary fantasy.

If one asks for money back at the room after all this I roll my eyes & tell them you are kidding right. If it gets pushy I put $10 in her hand & tell them don't waste other men’s time like you did mine it gets around! I send them packing once the mood or fantasy has been too damaged. The $10 I loose lets them know too me I am not an ass but things are on my terms since I am the payer & it also cuts my loses because I know from experience it is all down hill from all this. Most I find for me do not want to leave & start the hunt all over again; they have their time invested as well & most are not this stupid. The way I see it once they are in your room you have the advantage because they have invested so much time in you & want to go back to their families it makes it easy to stand your ground here. They know we can find a replacement for them faster than they can for us so just view this as a childd testing the parent. I am no Don Juan but I usually have to push them on after 2 hours or so. As far as the condom goes. I have a strong act before we leave the bar I use saying you do have condoms right? Half say NO & I say WTF! Then let them know I have more condoms than she will need & I never ever do it without them even the BJ. Many of the Chicas tell me you know these crazy gringos want to pay us more & use no condom at all & of course I look stunned & say you are kidding they are crazy!!

When it is all said & done the Chicas seem to have had a good time & proof of this is they are pissed because I didn't get off they ask me what is wrong because I was very hard the whole time. I just tell them condoms are a necessary evil with sex but kill the great feeling. 95% pull the condom off & finish me with a great BJ till completion. I believe I look healthy & they know I don't drink, smoke, do drugs as I feel to each his own & I have grown beyond these phases of life & am concerned about health which gaines more over all trust & respect.

Most give me their phone# without me asking. What does that tell you? I also think if you can afford a nicer room do it. They can see 50 to 100 is no big deal & relax more I believe. I have mention in other posts about the Gentlemen & the Lady issues. Well I am real enough I feel to know we lie in between somewhere but this is a short term fantasy & if you are going to get the most out of it ACT like a Gentlemen & treat them Like a Lady but when it is all over & everybody is fulfilled go back to your normal reality it is much better on your head in the long run.

Cheat the Chicas you cheat yourself in the long run.

PS By the way I seldom pay 60 it is usually 80 to 100 because they lived up to or exceeded all my expectations. These Latinas go back & talk & I get more out of my investment by this believe me it WORKS! Yes I can get it on the cheep if I want but I do not like to be rushed & pushed with any type of limits plus I like the comfort of my own place with some atmosphere to help the setting music movies & what ever it takes to maximize this short term fantasy. The sessions I least like are the cheep yam bam deals to just blow a nut as for me this is no fantasy at all only hardcore sex. I come for R&R & no set time table which ruins the flow & purpose of my virtual reality & fantasies. Generally the worst sessions I have had are when I just paid 50 because that means we parted both unfulfilled. The other bad sessions I have had are the free ones because then I have tears to deal with later.

Mikey-B,
I think you missed the gist of some of my questions. You answered the first set and option C is actually the one I would choose as well. However, I think a case could be made for some of the alternatives. Option C kinda leads to a similar scenario as when she comes to your room and expects to be paid before you even start. If she gets you hard and then pulls the CBJ crap, I would say if you change the terms to only CBJ then I only pay you XXX and THEN if she balks at either providing BBBJ or whatever or accepting the reduced amount I go with option B. Of course it is even harder to stand your ground with a hard-on then it is before you get started so this can be easier said than done. Fortunately, personally I've never really been put to the test - the few times this has happened they've always either accepted the reduction or changed their mind about giving BBBJ or whatever service was in question.

You didn't really answer the second issue. I have really no idea what the FMV is for a striptease and a handjob since I've never been in the market for such limited services. The larger issue that I was alluding to is even if you come up with a number that you think is fair, what's to say the chica will have a similar view. Miami X had a incident where he offered $10 for an incomplete CBJ which I would think would be more than fair but which apparently the chica did not. she threw it back, which was probably fine with Miami. If you come up with a figure that you think is fair and she doesn't, how do you think she'll portray the series of events with her chica friends back at the bar?

Finally the third issue was not whether to say "NO PH*CKING WAY! " when they insist on being paid up front, despite earlier assurances. That much is obvious. The question was what to do if they refuse to wait for payment, but refuse to leave until they get paid something for their time ad trouble. Zippy says he'll give them $10 even if they don't ask for it so they'll know he's not an ass but I say who cares what they think. They're the ones who tried to cheat you by changing the terms, not the other way around. They didn't deliver squat on what they promised and they wer responsible for any time wasted which included yours. To me $10 is a reward, easy money that only encourages bad behavior. Those girls if given a choice between $50 for an hour work including having to Phuck a guy or $10 for 5 minutes just phucking a guy over sin sexo would probably take the $10 every time. This has only happened to me twice. Once I got her to agree to leave with nothing and the other time I just gave her cabfare (even though she just walked back to the BM).

Zippy, your answer was more detailed but you covered a lot of ground I wasn't asking about. I wasn't asking about your negotiation/interview style in the bar and I wasn't asking what to do if they attempt to change the terms back in the room but quickly give in, which WILL be the result in 95 % of the cases when that happens, and I wasn't asking how impressed the chicas were with your suavity after the fact. I was simply asking what to do when they insist on payment in advance or diminished services after starting and refuse to back down.

One thing you have to realize it is more art than science here. We all have our different ways. I do care to some point to not leave people pissed off. Generally never run into problems but if $10 gets them out of my hair with less pissiness it is cheep too me I am not going to sit around wasting my trip on stupid principle issues with Chicas that live by few principles if any. Some of these chicas are down right mental cases so reason does not always apply anyway but they all know one thing they want & need money.




Prolijo, I gave you more info than you asked for? I bet you haven't ever over elaborated on a subject before have you??? I drifted a little here I admit because at first I was addressing with you in mind & then shifted into more overall detail of what works for me for the other members to see.

Sometimes we just get full of ourselves don't we Prolijo.

LOL, touché, Zippy!

selamat pagi HAPPY HOLIDAYS

This was kind of what I was trying to get across. We all DEFINITELY have our own ways, but IMHO, in any situation, I will always try to be fair. But I don't come to CR to get ph*cked over (from a business standpoint) by ANY woman. I'll always try to be fair, but diplomatic. I don't mind making friends, but I don't go looking to make enemies. And we all know how "lightning-fast" the chica network is.

When I'm in CR, I have a very simple agenda: Relax, have fun, enjoy the company of beautiful women, and go with the flow. Summed up in two words.....LOW STRESS ! God knows that there'll be plenty of that when we return to the real world.
Pura Vida Gentlemen,
Mikey B.

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Great posts Mikey-B and Zippy. It is easy to understand the basics, such as don't pay cien for an hour and don't pay in advance. However, it is these grey areas that are tough.

I am proud that I sent the first lady I ever brought back to the Presidente packing because she demanded payment upfront. She backed down, but the mood was ruined. However, I do have a confession to make. On the same trip I really hit it off during the day with a lady at HDR. We talked for an hour and seemed to connect. Set a reasonable price for two hours and off to the hotel. She asked sweetly for the money upfront and for reasons I still don't know I gave it to her. The next thing you know the promised bbbj became a cbj. When I tried to remind her of our deal she all of a sudden could not speak English. I finished up and sent her packing in under an hour, which is probably what she wanted.

The weird thing is that she approached me later that night when I was standing with a group of friends and ladies. She asked for money for dinner, saying something about not being able to cash my money. All I told her was that I had been a gentleman with her and treated her fairly, while she had lied to me, so I would never give her another dollar. She looked at me in shock and just walked away.

Embarrassed to admit my screwup, but hoping some new guys will learn from my poor example.

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Like I said so many are not all there? What is sad it appears we are the most help they seem to be able to find in their lives.