www.CostaRicaTicas.com

Heard a story recently of one of the Sportsman's working girls going off with one of our fine newbie CRT members on a session, only for her to discover 20 minutes into the session that he was secretly videotaping her... She was hurt, she was ashamed, and she was embarassed, and she got dressed immediately and just left the room after giving him a little piece of her mind, which was most likely in spanish so the guy probably didn't understand a a goddamn thing she said.

Got it from SEVERAL reputable sources, so I know it's an accurate story... but since I wasn't there to see it myself, I'm not going to call anyone out by name or anything... that would be wrong of me to make an accusation without solid proof or evidence.

But what I would like to say is that we CRT'ers for the most part pride ourselves in trying to be better than the average Joe Monger... yeah we're horny, we're sick, some of us are kinky, etc. etc. but jeezus h. christ, we must maintain that basic level of respect and consideration for the very people who are satisfying and fulfilling our every fantasy and desire...

Let's never forget who we are. Hell yeah, we're sickos, Phuck yeah some of us are pervs... but we are CRT'ers and Gentlemen, and we must remember that there's a right and wrong way of doing everything...

Consent is a fundamental MUST on ANY sexual activity, be it with a working girl, non-working girl, gringa, etc. etc... I know I'm stating the painfully obvious, but I'm guessing some of us need to be reminded of things sometimes... Trust me when I say this, you can get a girl to let you videotape her and allow pretty much anything else your little sick dirty heart desires, BUT FIRST ASK HER PERMISSION/CONSENT and then you are doing things the RIGHT WAY... 'Nuff said.

Thanks for reading,

Ruffnutz

_________________
EVERYONE'S A ROCK STAR IN C.R.!!
"Just when I thought I was out... They pull me back in." -- Ruffnutz on trying to quit CRT

Well said Ruff. Thats the good part.

That it had to be said thats the bad part.

As this site grows it attracts different type folks. Hopefully success will not spoil CRT.

_________________
Pura Vida
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four
essential food groups:
alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat.
Alex Levine

That's not cool. This kind of sh*t gives us ALL a black eye.
Common sense, fellas. Common sense......

_________________
You ALWAYS have an option ....... "NEXT" !!!

My limited experience has been that if you ask up front, you'll know if you can have it back in the room. If she says "NO" and filming is crucial to you, you gotta let it go or live with her rules. About a third of my hotel/MP girls wouldn't allow anything at all, a third allowed only snapshots that weren't compromising, and the remainder allowed some very nice photos and video.

Worse yet is the asshole that took a girl up and phucked her and said "I dont' pay for phucking whores". She did punch him in the mouth. I hope she gave him a nice fat lip. Phucking asshole. Next time I see him, he will get a BIG piece of my mind.

Well said RN....If you ask a girl if you mind taking private pics
that is one thing, but doing things like that secretively is WRONG !!!!

15 hours till touchdown

CG

Once again, I agree 100% with Ruffnutz. Unfortunately, every trip I see similar asshole moves more and more. Some guys never get it.

_________________
Tunaman

TUNAMAN, my bro... Guys like you should never worry about me talking about them... we are a breed apart.. and that is my point exactly...

Some know how to do things right... and then there's those that don't. You are in the good category, and that's why you, my friend, are a sexy bitch.

Take care,

Ruffnutz

_________________
EVERYONE'S A ROCK STAR IN C.R.!!
"Just when I thought I was out... They pull me back in." -- Ruffnutz on trying to quit CRT

As my good friend Pidd said to me while we were being bored to tears by a fellow CRT member..."The payment of dues (or just lurking) does not make a person part of a group."

Okay, I have to be the bad guy.

So from a non-monger point of view and so from the view point that sex tourist are low-lifes, what is worse 1) having sex with hookers 2) videotaping a hooker secretly?

This taping doesn't surprise me. It is bad, but is it any worse than mongering? You can't tell the average person that you are a sex tourist and you can't tell that you secretly video tape anyone while having sex. I mean both of these things aren't so accepted. So........ who are we to be judging?

I remember when court-TV was in CR on a story (looking for someone that fled there). The narrator described the glutch as San Jose's seedy underground and look who's hanging out there.

We are always complaining about the girls getting over on us - conning us, RFM, stealing from us, trying for the cien, rushing the hour, lying to us - yet when one of us does something to the girl it high treason? What, we're supposed to adhere to some code of ethics, but they do as they please? Video taping - a non violent mischievous sneaking thing to do, but I think it comes with the territory (she was in his room).

I'm trying to end this gracefully..... not trying to pick a fight, just saying that the line isn't always as clear and isn't the same for some as it is for others so who's to judge?

I'm sure all of the pictures in CRT's picture gallery are posted with the consent of the girl - absolutely!

Actually, I was just viewing some pics of a girl holding a fish in compromising positions.. Do we really need to make spectacles of these people? How big, or little, are we? I like the luxury of having women available as much as the rest of you but there's never any need to degrade or compromise these PEOPLE and show it off. I realize it's not intentional but it's the result. Sorry.

Hey the devils advocate. You bring up a good point actually, but
I wouldn't go that far, just because she agrees to go to his room she shouldn't have to worry about a video of her having sex with the jerk showing up on the internet or elsewhere. Maybe he just wanted it for his own personal use but who knows, it's just not cool at all and a matter of respect for her. If he'd just ask around he'd surely find a chica that would be willing to do the video. And yes some chicas do pull all those things you mentiion that we bitch about but do the few bad ones justify us not behaving like gentlemen?

Can't argue with this one, are posting her naked pics without permission not as bad as a secret video? Every couple months I see some chica I know well enough to know she'd go ballistic if she knew her naked pics were posted, in fact I see Lee has a post asking about Priscilla and who posted her pics, not sure why he's asking but I'll bet he knows her well enough to know that she'd not be happy about it. Kind of hypocrytical to push behaving like gentlemen and respecting the ladies then posting their pu*sy shots on the web without their permission. Never thought I agree with VB on this (and I know this will go over like a lead balloon with some members) but perhaps the Xrated pics should all be dumped, keep it PG or R rated because the Xrated pics are the ONLY reason all the chicas HATE this site.

Ruffnutz I trust you PM'd the new member and made him aware of this thread?

Really a good subject here. Morals & ethics with seedy characters doing seedy things in the seedy side of San Jose & after it is all said & done we hope nothing went wrong & our seeds didn't accidentally get planted & make another stork arrive with a new baby in CR. Now it is all perfectly clear.

Are we Gentelmen & these are Ladies we entertain or are we Losers that can't find Ladies & these are whores we see?

Does it make us feel better about what we do or what we have done to make some stand on one issue or another? If we want to carry it further maybe we should just pay them & not contribute to the pelvic inflammatory disease we give them over time but wait they gave us consent to do this with them so is that OK? We could even go so far & stop mongering & start giving the Red Cross guys a break by checking people’s blood pressure on the way in & out of HDR. PacoLoco would look so industrious pumping up blood pressure cuffs instead of pumping Chicas. I agree with you Paco the pics in bad taste can go.

Anyway I tend to agree with everyone but think rationally it makes sense what Dwayne said it should be expected with the territory when men pay women to have sex. Don't think it was right what he did & one way a chica can make sure this doesn't happen is go to a neutral love motel or hotel. I don't think these little Chicas are exactly Saints or Angels so all is fair in love & war so too speak.

I don't think any of us are any better than anyone else (unless obviously someone is hurting someone else or doing something totally despicable) we are all a little seedy & I kind of like this life that we have found as long as we don't hurt someone or get hurt & that is the key too me. If a guy takes pics or anything else he should just keep it too himself or only show me & make damn sure he doesn't do something ugly with it.

Lets don't try to make these Chicas out to be Angels come on? And we certainly are not Saints! Most Chicas will steal in a heart beat period! If you don't believe me leave all your stuff out while you shower & see what happens. Look at all the cappers & stunts these Chicas have pulled. If some of these guys had security cams they might know what happened when they woke up missing $1500. Some guys have been found dead in the rooms. Maybe too much Viagra who knows? I don't like cams but maybe they do have a time & a place.

I personally believe most these Chicas would be happy to make some porn film if the guy pays her enough & she trusts he will only keep it to himself & not getting ugly with it. Any bets out there guys? Maybe the guy was trying to keep his costs under control but consent is better I believe just wish the Chicas would ask us or get OUR CONSENT before they steal our stuff also. Then there is the whole other issue on con games & guys sending money. The whole thing is a big con & game but some get caught up in it believing it is real.

Lets don't have delusions about this game they are out to use us for everything they can get period regardless of consent & we are out to get the most out of them. If anything better than this happens it’s a bonus but still not real!

Look at the overall picture in this game. Some would say we take advange of the younger women of legal age with their own consent but others could say that these young Chicas are taking advantage & ripping off old men that are not all there??? Which way is it?? Maybe just maybe we are all just enjoying life & what it has to offer doing he best we know to make it all work for us?


I asked Ruff about a Chica we both know. He knows her better than I She let me take pics & was very happy to do so. I never talked about any restrictions with these photos but didn't get permission to post them from her & asked Ruff what he thought. He told me she would not like it so good enough for me & I respect that. I don't think I will ever post any of my photos anymore unless one is a real problem childd!

For me obvoius we should be nice & respectful but I just don't think we should get on our moral high horse since we are all a little seedy anyway. I will get off mine now. I hope when this member saw how upset this Chica that was paid to have sex with him was that he at least had the courtesy to destroy it in front of her.

Zippy, I see what you are saying, BUT, trust me when I say that the issue here is not about 'high morals'... I'm the last one to ever go that route... I just think this kind of thing is just fundamentally WRONG.

Doing something without the knowledge of the chica is wrong for two very basic reasons:

1. CONSENT- Will not beat this horse again, just read my initial post. Understand this: Doing something that she is not aware of is just the same as doing something against her will. Some may disagree, but I take my stand on this, especially on the subject of secretly recording her.

2. PRIVACY- No I'm not speaking about the letter of the law, but everyone has a right to their privacy... This may be unlikely, but this guy could have put this secretly recorded session on the web, or used stills to post on some other site... this is bullshit! For reasons that are so obvious I'm not even going to mention them, the chica should have the opportunity to make her own choice on whether she wants the creation of a nude photo or a tape recording of her involved in sexual acts. This is so obvious to me I can't even believe I'm writing so much to try to explain it...

And let me set something straight... the theory that this kind of thing goes with the territory is IMHO wrong. We can say that the risk of a guy banging a chica and then refusing to pay and stiffing the girl may come with the territory, but THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT, and moreso, should not be condoned by CRT'ers.

Oh, and just because a small batch of honeys DO steal, DO lie, etc. etc. that does NOT justify us doing anything wrong to them... What kind of rationalization is that??? Where do we draw the line on this line of thought??... Since some of them steal, is it ok for us to rob them back?... Lie to them and shortchange her on the dollar amount we promised them? Some of them drug their clients... Is it ok now to slip a "rufy" in their drink, drug them all up and take advantage of them?? Really, how far can we reach in trying to rationalize a blatantly wrong act?

C'mon, as gentlemen, we're much MUCH better than that....... aren't we??

Anyways, thanks for reading, and I DO appreciate opposing views as Dwayne's, as it opens up different perspectives for all of us and allows for good discussion... I may not agree with you Dwayne, but I really appreciate your post and thoughts.

Ruffnutz

_________________
EVERYONE'S A ROCK STAR IN C.R.!!
"Just when I thought I was out... They pull me back in." -- Ruffnutz on trying to quit CRT

I'm no expert and to this board I'm new and what I say is only my opinion. I like to film the girls. I ask first. Some have turned me down. They have right and I have to respect that. For me though, the crux of this is are they people too. How would you feel if they recorded you without you knowing and showed it to friends? Believe it or not, some of these girls are just trying to make a living and have a lot of courage doing so. Deep inside some of these girls surely have the fear that they will be "found out". I can understand their feeling like their privacy has been taken from them.

Now, do I trust them? mostly no. Do I worship them? nope. Would I want to have a long term relationship? nope. But should I degrade them? No because it makes a nebulous situation regarding my "manhood" all that much more and they are people just like me. I'm seeking their attention and service as much as they are mine. Oddly, these girls to make me feel more alive and human- scary huh? I'm no better than they are but that's not saying they are "bad." I suppose there are a number of guys on the board that have very full lives and only use these girls for sport. That's ok.

I suppose it's one thing if a girl is a wench, talks about everyone behind their backs, steals, etc and then cries because her poor little image is on someone's camera without her knowing(legally though even a selfish wench has the right to give permission or denial). But, it's another where a otherwise decent girl feels shamed by something.

This thread will not keep a person from secretly recording sessions. Even with their permission though, I would keep the compromising footage very private. They have a right to that regardless of what the law says or what it did for Paris Hilton's career.