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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:32 am 
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Just finished watching a segment on the Today show where 3 middle aged gringas discussed the phenomina of Older Men dating younger women. For example, Larry King and his young wife, Harrison Ford and his girlfriend who's half his age and Micheal Douglas and Kathrine Zeta. Anyway, they talked about the trophy aspect, the status symbol, the fact that Older men just want someone to take care of them as they got older.
One (the best looking one at 45) thought how disgusting it was that she had a date with a 60 year old guy who broke it off saying that he never went out with anyone over 35. They talked about the physological aspects and generally poo pooed the whole phenomina. It made my stomach turn.
It's a shame that this segment was given over to 3 gringas discussing this subject because they ALL missed the point which is simple:
Men are dogs who simply want (and in Costa Rica get) firm tits, tight asses and juicy pussys. Does anyone really beleive Micheal Douglas would want some 50 year old has been Hollywood star when he can have what he's got with Kathrine Zeta? Come on Today Show, lets have a REAL and honest discussion as to why old dogs go for the young sweet smelling stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:56 am 
Why would I select something older when all the top notch grade a-1 stuff is all around. Some people drink old wine and eat aged cheese. I prefer the younger 18-25 fresh(er) and firm(er) stuff. I find that it is also good for the heart to have a great work out!


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I watched that segment also.
Of course the old ladies think it sucks.

Matt Lauer touched briefly on the truth when he asked
'Does it make the blood run hotter?' :lol:

I want young women.
As I age and that becomes more difficult, I monger more!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:02 am 
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It's man's revenge. Up until about 25, women have the advantage in the male-female equation. In high school and college, men are at a disadvantage; we want sex, chicks withhold, thus they have the power. In their 20s, women realize they dig sex just as much as guys do; power more or less stabilizes. Then, you get to the 30s and the situation changes dramatically. Men have the power. First they have the range to dip into chicks from the early 20s to whatever is hot enough to Phuck. Second, they have economic means to pull off thei fantasies. Meanwhile, chicks face a ticking biological clock, looks that require more and more maintenance and yet they still have a sexual need (no more of that wtholding bullshit from back in high school).


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From what I am seeing it is not only the physical part but also just as much mental. I see all these women daily that are late 30s to early 40s & so many are all wiggy mentally about getting older & some take it out on who ever is around. Many are so insecure they are dripping all over the place. I like being around something full of life & positive about a future not something that is worried about their back hurting & all the meds the doctor has got her on? No way will many of these older ones be much fun for long. I see more men in better shape than most women of the same age. I do know some that are different but we are paying either way why go for the older model if you have a real alternative?


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LV.........RIGHT ON. Hell, it might not be fair but tough shit. I will go with a smile on my face.


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I thought news shows were supposed to be objective or balanced or at least try to appear to be so. How can they have a balanced report on "Why Older Men Want Younger Women" without getting the viewpoint of any older men, or younger women for that matter? They had 3 guests, you'd think they would have had at least 1 man among them. Since a woman obviously can't understand personally why older men want younger women, what makes them qualified to speak on the subject? That one or the other of them wrote some obscure book on that subject that they were promoting on this show and which probably won't be read but other women like themselves? Probably their biggest claim to experience on the subject is having been passed over themselves for a younger woman by their former husband and their target audience probably have shared the same experience. Having an axe to grind does not make for objective science. That was not a news program, it was a kangaroo court with a stacked judge and jury.

So why do older men want younger women? Why not? The physiological component of attraction is more important to men than it is to woman. It is in our genes and part of our evolution. And younger women are usually much more attractive physically. Women may see that as being superficial and maybe it is but it is no more superficial than some of the things that many women find attractive (such as a fat wallet). Bothering to ask why we're the way we are (or making value judgements on it) makes as much sense as asking why we're omnivores or why we're diurnal. Its just the way it is.

However, if you have to ask why and want to look deeper, go ahead. Maybe our seeking younger women is our way of retaining our own youth and vitality (aka midlife crisis). Women are not ones to cast any stones. For their part they will lie about their age and have cosmetic surgery. They will counter that with the argument that they're only doing that because of us. Give me a break. If they are victims of societal expectations then so are we.

Certainly another aspect of this issue is societal norms. It has traditionally been far more acceptable for older men to be with younger women than for older women to be with younger men. That has been changing (Demi Moore, Cher etc.). If they want to have an interesting show they should have had that. Or forget about men and trophy wives how about a show on why do some women young or old (aka golddiggers) want richer men (trophy husbands?). Or how about a show on why do some younger women go with older men? I'd love to see that show since it might help me improve my game.

Those women probably also argued that men should seek women or corresponding maturity level. Hopefully we're not taking about old men with minors here. There is a world of difference between a 40 year old men with a 15 year old girl and 55 year old man with a 30 year old woman. Beyond a certain point maturity level doesn't change that much and other differences become more important. Also unless we're seeking a lifetime soul mate maybe maturity is not that important an issue at all. If it is just a fling youth, attractiveness, vitality, zest for life, etc become at least as important if not much more so than most others.

I will give the gringa bitches this much though, in the longer term, not just maturity but common life experiences greatly improve the odds for a successful relationship. A guy who has had his K*ds and seen them grown and go on to college and now is preparing to spend what little time and money he has left on enjoying his retirement is not likely to have the same expectations and desires in life as a younger women who wants to have a family and raise K*ds. A guy that grew up during the Beatles and Woodstock may not relate so well to a young women who grew up during rap music and raves. A guy who prefers to take it easy at night and rest his weary bones may not be able to keep up with a girl that wants to go out every night and dance til dawn.

There are other qualities in women that men find desirable besides youth and beauty. Intelligence, charm, a sense of humor or whatever it is there is no reason why we can't find a younger woman that has those things too. The difference is that older men have more options in that regard than do older women. I agree with the generalization that on the whole men tend to age better than women. We tend not to be as worn out in appearance as many women our same age and to the degree we are it is not as important to the younger women. OTOH, as we get older we gain some positive advantages over when we were younger - especially our greater wealth, positions of power, more maturity etc. Those things usually don't compensate for the loss of looks for older women viz a viz younger men, but for younger women those are exactly the the things that they feel attracted to in older men.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:25 pm 
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I see a lady thats 52 years old.Im 43.She has a nice thin body,{ a little witchy in the face} she is horny all the time. I can call her any time and go have sex. I call once every couple of months and usually regret that. No matter how much forplay, she never gets wet and I have to use the ky.My experience with older women is limited, do they dry up when they reach a certain age. I was doggy stylin an older lady a few years ago and she had a patch on her ass. I ask what it was and she said it helped her get wet. I guess they have a patch for everything these days. Anyway, I felt a little guilty my first and only trip to CR. I got over it real quick,Hell, an 18 year old nica, a twent two year old tica, Im ruined , all I want are younger women. Cant wait till my next trip to CR,Raw


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Dragon; I love your reply. Ain't it the truth. I am so happy to be getting that revenge. Hell, we deserve it.
Pro - You're so right. Not fair and balanced at all. They should at the very least let Matt do the interview. Three middle aged gringas beating up on men. Those three didn't get it and never will. Men are dogs and I'm the happiest dog in CR! In you're closing, you left out one more thing us older guys have that the young chicas like - a fat wallet!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:21 pm 
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Nice job Prolijo. Well-written. Succinct.

If aging gringas had better awareness, they would know that their best strategy to not end up fat, old, and alone, while we chase their daughters, is not to bitch about how disgusting that chase is.
It is not a new phenomenon, for goodness sakes, and anyone with eyes can see why we chase the younger girls.
The aging gringa's best strategy lies in selecting wisely a quality man when marriage occurs, and then cultivating that by being a fun friendly (not bitchy or nagging) person throughout the years, respecting her man thoroughly, taking excellent care of herself, having some class and wisdom... missing any or all of these aspects spells trouble....
Instead their strategy is something else, criticism, just like their whole life has likely been, and their results will surely remain the same...

Can't believe it isn't more obvious to them, that they can't see this

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Dragon----Spoken like a True Tom Leyckus fan. Your point is right on the money.


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Sol,
Succinct!?!? :shock: :? That's the first time anyone ever accused me of that.

Steve,
Check my 2nd paragraph. You should know I NEVER leave anything out. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:36 pm 
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Why older man like younger women. I am not a psychologist and I do not have a degree in human behavior but I do know why when I was 35 to late '40s I dated girls who were in their 20s. I did not know it at that time I was just enjoying myself and not giving it a lot of deep thought. At 47 I started a three-year relationship with an old high school girlfriend who had recently lost her husband. Much of that relationship was good but the end was very bad. That is when I realized the real reason I enjoyed younger girls so much. They did not want anything from me but a good time. They had no long term agenda that included me.

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I have a "Vegas Pic-A-Day" calendar.

October 24th, 1957.
"Following a Nuptial Mass at St. Anne's Catholic Church, Bing Crosby, 53, and Kathryn Grant, 23, head for the plane that will wing them to their honeymoon spot--Bing's unfinished Silver Spur Ranch in Palm Desert."

Hell, if it was good enough for the Bingster, it's good enough for me.


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Men are attracted to women that are capable of having the best chance of having attractive and healthy Ch*ldren. That happens to be young, attractive and healthy women. That does not change because men get older. However the only older men that can get these same women are the ones with money and/or high social standing. Poor men have absolutely no chance. That is something that is never mentioned.

I saw a program on the science channel once about the differences in the sexes. It was interesting. If I may quote Dr. Helen Fisher, "women have a biological need to acquire assets". They have Babi*s and want someone to take care of them. The more assets a man can provide the better the man. That is the tv show that should be shown, the real biological motivations of women. What women want is something that can be understood. They just want the subject to seem cosmic and beyond understanding. They don't want to face the truth about themselves.

That is why we all dislike North American women. The asset bar has been raised here. That is why they say they can't find men too. They can't be attracted to someone who can't do anything for them. It has to be a step up in money and/or social standing. It is also why we like to travel overseas. The asset bar is still low. We can do better there.

They are simply looking for the best deal they can get and use their sexuality to obtain it.


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