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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:07 pm 
Masters Degree in Mongering!

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You are correct Tman. :D

I swear spending time with her (her english is soooooo limited reminds) is just like talking to a non-english speaking chica in CR. She is a hottie so I don't have to daydream so much.

Oh yeah... except for the easy sexo part. Working on that.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:35 pm 
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Jazz,

I owe you drinks. I am soooo getting laid tonight.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:05 am 
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Joluko - I'll remember the offer...and keep it up....

T-man, it's no substitute for mongering (check out my Cali girl in VIP from last weekend), but it sure beats playing "victim" with the bitches on South Beach when I'm home!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:56 am 
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Are you looking for a shoulder to cry on? Do you seek a fat wallet, a handsome face and a clueless brain?

Are you the kind of woman who can twist a man around her little finger with just a smile, a sigh, or a bitchy remark?

Do you want a man who earns a lot of cash, who can pamper you until you get sick of him, and then who will pay large alimony just to get rid of your sorry ass? If so...

Kill yourself.

I'm 48, fat, blind and have a miniature version of a human penis. I earn less than $15K per year. My teeth are crooked, and I walk with a pronounced limp.

And guess what? I'm still too good for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:05 pm 
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Jazz Musician wrote:
check out my Cali girl in VIP from last weekend
So, it was you who posted that picture! Man, that girl has an ass to die for :P


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:30 pm 
I can do CR without a wingman!

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JM you are priceless... you don't post the most often, but your stuff is amazing... I know you are so right I am going to use that here in CO just to see what happens... I can't understand all the reasons why that works but I know it does... it strikes me as rude so it is a trip that it appeals to women... wait a minute, thats right up their alley, isn't it? Gringas anyway.

El Ciego, dang thats funny! some women are so stupid, that kind of post would probably work for you! Try it! You got game...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:59 am 
I can do CR without a wingman!

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Ok, so I posted Jazz Musician’s ad in Denver’s craigslist and it is the funniest thing I have ever seen. With his permission, here are a few follow-ups with local girls:

Well,
Where to start? I think your post is/was some kind of a prank. Very funny. I needed a good laugh today. Most women would be offended, but I'm not most women.
And, I think the photo is from a tuxedo ad.
So, I won't go into how attractive, secure, funny, and smart I am. (and all that crap.) Have a great day. Good luck with your experiment. I'm sure you will get lots of hate mail, that you and your friends will laugh about for years. LOL
M.R.-Redheaded Irish girl from Chicago that can see through bullshit! :)
My reply:
How sweet of you, Michelle!
You think my photo was from a tux ad, so I guess I could be a model.
In fact it was at my best friend's wedding, last year. It is me.
Since you took the time to write, I don't mind taking at least a second for you.
Ya I got a good laugh too. Since you are not offended, and did not get hooked in to describing yourself, etc, score a point for you! Keep it up and I might let you buy me a chocolate mocha. Are you in Denver?

Redheaded Irish girl huh? So I assume that means no espanol? Strike one.
Now you are back to zero! Keep trying though, don't be a quitter!
You seemed to want to set yourself apart by saying "I am not most women" and "I won't go into how attractive, secure, funny, and smart I am..."
You will have to do better.

-S

She comes back with this….
S,
No I am not in Denver. I live in the Springs (strike 2) ha . Have you been watching the World Series? Incredible!
I manage all of the Pulte closing 's down here. I do have meetings in Denver every Tuesday and Friday's. I also have an investment property in Lone Tree.
So, the men I date are usually from the Denver area.
No, I don't speak spanish, sorry. Only Russian and Italian. Just Kidding.
I do set myself apart from the rest of the livestock -Here's how.
Been on my own since I was sixteen.Totally self supporting.Great Job, Nice home. Paid cash for two degrees.UNLV. No, I was not a dancer. I was a Bud girl, and Killian girl for four years. Worked for Carnival Cruise line's for two of those as well. I have been very blessed.
I don't fit any of your criteria.Five foot seven, 130 pounds.Size 6-8. 38-26-38, Fair skin with freckles,blue eyes.Ring size, 5 Shoe size,7.Auburn,strawberry blond hair just past my shoulders.
Any way, I'm sure you don't like hearing about others. Would you like to talk about yourself now? Get a lot of hate mail today? Are you in Real Estate?

This girl clearly is trying to be ‘good enough’ for me and all I have done is be an arrogant prick. If her self-description is true, she should be fun. I do prefer Latinas though… here’s another sample reply:
So how many "perfect" women have you found???? This post is nice because it is different! But have you seen yourself lately? You don't look good enough to hang with me! So let's meet up! Bring your money, and leave your emotions at home! SO how about Friday?

This girl is joking about my appearance, and asking me out Friday. Don’t know what ‘Kendra” looks like, but will find out!
I did write back that I wasn’t bringing money, it was on her. We will see what she says.
To summarize, I will clearly be getting laid from this ad, if I feel like it (damn gringas) but some of the responses are worth it in entertainment value alone!
I am going to try a few variations, etc… sorry for the long post guys
Thanks Jazz

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:25 am 
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Nice job, guys. Remember, respond with as few words as necessary. Send no photo "because they SUCK unless professionally done", and tell them they're going to have to meet for a cafe if they want to satisfy their curiosity.

I told one I'm recently divorced, a "find", and she's going to lose me if she keeps phucking around with emails.

She called....

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:27 am 
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Solamente et al,


J.M.'s brilliantly-contrived personal ad will work for anyone. This is because women are inately attracted to strong, confident men with a "who gives a damn" attitude.

When we were young high school students, we used to use the silly expression, "G.I. Joe says 'Be mean to girls!'" While kind of dumb, the phrase served to remind us that being overly kind, sensitive and supportive does not get a man laid.

I still don't fully understand why this should be true. It seems almost counter-intuitive; women are supposed to be biologically programmed to mate with nuturing, supportive, sensitive males. Right? :?
I do know that here in my little microcosmic population 18,000 Midwestern town, all the real hotties have long histories of sleeping with real losers, bad boys with tattoos, G.E.D.'s,, muscle cars and alcohol or drug abuse problems. A beautiful woman in my town would rather risk drunken beatings from an undereducated, violent putz than to connect with a nice man who would treat the woman well.

The times when I've been most successful seducing a desireable female have been the times where I acted like a confident albeit insensitive jerk. The most beautiful women I've loved have tended to push the seduction almost to the point of rape before beginning to enjoy the seduction game, allowing it to flower into mutually satisfying sex.

I was tired of this game, and this is one reason I began to pursue the play-for-pay game. I feel more free to be myself, without trying to play some callous hard-ass...the money takes care of differences in personal tastes, hers and mine.

Jazz, you're amazing! I sincerely would like to take both piano lessons and life lessons from you. Very sharp, sir.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:01 pm 
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I think you guys have been listening to way too much David De Angelo! :D

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I think you guys have been listening to way too much David De Angelo!


That's what I've been thinking during this whole thread. I'm tired of reading DD's 10,000 word essays in every email. I just delete them now. However, he does make good points.

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Sounds like a Tom Leykis show....LA guys speak up.......


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:48 pm 
I can do CR without a wingman!

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ok, so as I said I posted JM's ad, chck this reply out:

Dearest you , I am what your looking for at least you seem to be portraying a very macho man but again that turns me on ( :shock: )I am Hispanic and I can speak Spanish I am pretty and I make my own money . so I guess you could call the shots but I just hope that you are not as superficial as you appear to be . oh and I am 25 i asume you date only younger submissive types . Brandywyne....

estoy aqui en Denver , Y usted es muy coqueto or que
unda, and I learned from the tv and the street only
been speaking for 2 years (from same girl)

or this one....
i love you. someone posted your ad and said to read it bc they got a kick out of it.
anyway, thats all.. i just wanted to say that some girl far far from you loves you.

That ad is rude and offensive, and I have multiple girls wanting to meet me, etc, cant understand it, but I kind-of do...

one girl says she is so fine she will have me eating out of the crack of her ass if she wants... I'm already inside her stupid gringa head lol

the bad-boy phenomenon is real. That's all I can say.

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I wish I knew when younger what I know now. I pissed away so many years trying to figure out women, and it´s only been in the last couple that I´ve found out what attracts them; retain some MYSTERY (ie., don´t wear your heart on your shirt sleeve initially), be CONFIDENT and be a CHALLENGE.

I was so happy when women responded to me that I went out of the way to give them attention. Big phuckin' mistake. What I also never knew is there are varying degrees of interest women have from nearly the first moments. It can range from zero to 99%. If it´s above 50% initially, you have a chance, and of course, the closer it is to 99%, the better. I´ve had my share of beauties, but they came in above 85% to start. The ones who came in between 50 and 85%, I tended to stumble with. I also wasted way to much, valuable time with those who came in under 50%, and they´re unattainable, even if you can do handstands and jerk off at the same time. They don´t care, but they´ll make you think they care if there´s something in it for them. Just don´t expect to get laid from the under-50% interest crowd.

Of course, money is the great equalizer, which is why I´m in Cali now. But when I go home, I´ve got more options than I ever thought possible just a couple of years ago. Why? Because I dump and forget about the ones that come in under 50% interest and don´t pine for them, no matter how beautiful. Instead, I now pursue the over 50% interest crowd, and importantly, don´t kiss their collective asses.

Yes, it is counter-intuitive that women should chase bad boys, and the really sick thing is they themselves don´t know why. As a matter of fact, if you ask an amiga for advice on what to do with another woman, she´ll steer you down the wrong path. They´ll tell you to be all nice and lovey and shit, even if the bitch needs discipline! (lol) And all women will say they really want a "nice guy", but what they don´t say is, after they get some good phucking from some bad boys.

Lets clear up this "badboy" thing. Women who chase abusers and lowlifes have pathological problems and need professional help. We´re not talking about those women. We´re talking about your average hot bitch, who comes in constant contact with male wimps who treat her like phuckin´ royalty. Even not-so-hot women get that. So naturally, they look to guys who have a life (confidence), are not always accessible (mystery), and who they´re not sure they can win over (challenge). Maybe the guy from time to time forgets to call, or says "no" when she wants "yes", etc. He also has other interests (like traveling - lol), and finally, he occasionally says things that are not politically correct. That explains the response to my add. So many women, in responding to that add, say, "You got a lot of nerve", or words to that effect. But they´re writing now, aren´t they? See how many responses you get if you write,"Lonely guy who is down on his luck, and who never seems to get hot women, wants to meet you badly. I´m so horny and I´m getting old." Now that may be the truth, but you´re phuckin´out of your mind if you think a babe is going to respond to that "truth". Healthy women don´t want men who trash them. They want guys who are a challenge, but nice guys underneath. That´s the ticket to a lot of phucking. It makes them horny.

This last year I´ve asked nearly every smokin´woman I encounter for their number (home phone, not cell). A third give it up, another third give a number that is bogus, and the other third say they´re involved. Hit 10 women in a month, and that´s three who have come in with interest level above 50%. In a year, well, you do the math.

Mongering´s great fun, but there´s something about a hot woman who gets wet from kissing you - without paying anything. Of course, extrapolate out, and you´re still paying, but maybe you can bail before it gets too expensive. (lol) Then again, you might meet a woman to get serious with. And look how much fun you´ve had getting there!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:18 pm 
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Jazz...this thread has been fun and interesting. Yet, I would like to add one perspective when it comes to those seeking a "real" relationship. Primarily is seems to me what has been discussed here is getting as many hotties in the sack as you can in the shortest amount of time...getting the most mileage out of this part of life if you will. While I understand and concurr with that on one level, I think there is another level of dating and approach that should be considered.

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Mongering´s great fun, but there´s something about a hot woman who gets wet from kissing you - without paying anything. Of course, extrapolate out, and you´re still paying, but maybe you can bail before it gets too expensive. (lol) Then again, you might meet a woman to get serious with. And look how much fun you´ve had getting there!


For me a meaningful balance between a real relationship and adventurous mongering is finding that special someone who, yes, gets wet just kissing you. Since I was a teenager, there was not greater turnon to me than having a girl practically jumping out of her shorts because or simple kisses or caresses. This is about much more than phucking. It's pure sensuality and sexuality that doesnt come with every pretty face. It comes in some surpising packages actually...church girls, office girls, and the girl next door. I do believe there is that hidden scent of attraction between men and women at certain stages of life where it just happens without "game" and trying. For me these experiences have been much more meaningful than P4P. Of course, the real PRO P4P girls can pretend this level of turnon if they know you well...but that can be costly to discover...and is still a fantasy.

Since living in Lat Am for over 7 years of my life, I have found myself develop a mixture of Latin Machoism and Gringo sensitivity that really can play well in both the real world arena and the P4P world as well.

By the way, how's Cali compared to Medellin and Bogota? Me, Bogota Dec 20-Jan3.


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