Gifts

Bastion · **Posted:** Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:34 pm

I have conducted a search and found nothing on the subject of gifts that guys take to give out.

I have read a few post on suckers (great idea!

), pearl necklace (OF COURSE :twisted:

) and a few comments about tipping :wink:

.

But money and obvious puns aside what kind of tokens does this board recomend I take for a trip? Perfume, if so what kind? Nail polish? Disposable cameras?

Any experienced board members ideas on this topic would be greatly welcome.

Osgood · **Posted:** Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:43 pm

i give them me. and if they are really nice, a little bit more of me....

Ace · **Posted:** Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:02 am

One suggestion is body sprays from Victorias Secret. Five for $30.
See: http://www2.victoriassecret.com/collect ... brandindex

Likewise Victoria Secret panties.

Inexpensive jewelry is nice.

Scented soaps, and lotions.

Candy.

Condoms.

PacoLoco · **Posted:** Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:05 am

My search turned up 4 pages!

Here's a few threads on the topic...
https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=6124

https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=4701

https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=4329
Hint: these have great ideas but if you want to really make an impression and be remembered- get something unique, that no one else has given them before.(and it doesn't have to be expensive)

Marlin25 · **Joined:** Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:59 am **Posts:** 38

One columbiana told me that most chicas appreciate a hotel room that is at least stocked with some bottled water.

as far as "joe boxers" and vict secret...I never know what size to get them.

Irish Drifter · **Posted:** Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:05 pm

Oh Mi amor, a liter of agua, gracias muy gracias :lol:

You have got to pulling our leg.

Have always found panties work. Bring a different assortment is size s & m and let the chica choose. They luv being able to choose which pair.

Bastion · **Posted:** Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:27 am

I did NOT think of searching for the word presents. I think of gifts for adults and presents for K*ds.

Thank you this gives me a lot to start looking for.

Jsmythe23 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:46 am

Just remember guys, if you keep treating them like gringas with all the gifts and all they'll turn into gringas.

Strange phenomenon why American guys insist on doing this.

WillySP · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:24 am

I usually buy extra small and small victoria secrets.

A few small trinkets will not turn them into gringas. I do it to show some apprection for beyond the rate for spending time with me and to get better service overall.
If you spend $10 or less to get a woman to feel special which enhanses your time or future encounters what does it hurt.

Where guys go wrong are taking them on shopping sprees buying them anything and everything they pick out.

Jsmythe23 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:42 am

With all due respect Willy I have to disagree with you. I'm going to apologize in advance for the upcoming rant.

Anything above the agreed rate (inflated rip off that it has become) will harm the situation.

The fact that somehow your value as a person and your presence as a man is not enough, that for some reason just for the privelege of having a woman in your company that you have to further compensate them with gifts or presents no matter how trivial seems to me foolish. This is exponentionally more ridiculous when you're talking about a professional who is already gettting paid for her time and is in all liklihood going to get a tip from the same gringo who over-pay her in the first place.

I know you are going to say it's no big deal, that you are just being nice, and that it makes you feel good to do it or that it makes them give you better service. That's fine. Go for it, but it does have an effect. I've dated latinas for 25 years and am friends with alot of the girls who work in the DR and KL. When these girls who are raised in a machismo culture constanlty get exposed to this uniquely gringo phenomenon of constantly having to gift, give, tip, over-compensate etc. it does 2 things; 1st. it makes them lose respect for and mock us (never to your face of course) and 2nd. it makes them materialistic and gives them a sense of entitlement. This in turn leads to higher prices, bad service and attitude and gringa type behavior.

It's the mentality that counts, not the amount of the gift. If every gringo went down there with the attitude that thier time and presence had value too and that they ONLY had to pay a reasonable rate to acquire intimate company., we would probably be paying about $50 a night for an all-nighter from the DR. Before all the nicey-nice, do-gooder gringos started going it was $20 for an all-nigher with a hot, super sweet chica. As this same nicey-nice gringo mentallity hit other areas like Dom. Rep. and Brazil the same thing has happened, sky-rocketing prices and a decline in service and attitude.

If you want good service and be respected and to have these women fawn over you, it's easy. It's got nothing to do with age or money. First get yourself in the best shape possible, second make your personality as fun and friendly as possible, third give them a great bang, and most important of all, act confident and have alot of respect for yourself, Know that you have alot to offer(besides money) and deserve the company and attention of a beautiful woman (paid for or not). Don't spend any time or money trying to get her to like you or to win her affection or make her happy. Worry only about liking yourself and making yourself happy and she will be drawn to you, she will be genuinely happy, just to be in your company. She will respect you for you, she won't be asking for extra money or playing any of hundreds of headgames other guys get played with. You'll also probably wind up with quite a few freebies.

El Ciego · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:37 am

Jsmythe23 wrote:

With all due respect Willy I have to disagree with you. I'm going to apologize in advance for the upcoming rant.

Your post here is well thought, and well-taken. You make some seriously valid points.

Anything above the agreed rate (inflated rip off that it has become) will harm the situation.

The fact that somehow your value as a person and your presence as a man is not enough, that for some reason just for the privelege of having a woman in your company that you have to further compensate them with gifts or presents no matter how trivial seems to me foolish. This is exponentionally more ridiculous when you're talking about a professional who is already gettting paid for her time and is in all liklihood going to get a tip from the same gringo who over-pay her in the first place.

The argument to the above point is that, if we were all macho enough and not castrated by gringo culture, we wouldn't need prostitutes in the first place. I too am against overtipping and do not gift-give, unless I am feeling particularly shriveled and weak. Then I think that nothing says "sorry I have a small penis" like an inexpensive pair of panties. :lol:

I know you are going to say it's no big deal, that you are just being nice, and that it makes you feel good to do it or that it makes them give you better service. That's fine. Go for it, but it does have an effect. I've dated latinas for 25 years and am friends with alot of the girls who work in the DR and KL. When these girls who are raised in a machismo culture constanlty get exposed to this uniquely gringo phenomenon of constantly having to gift, give, tip, over-compensate etc. it does 2 things; 1st. it makes them lose respect for and mock us (never to your face of course) and 2nd. it makes them materialistic and gives them a sense of entitlement. This in turn leads to higher prices, bad service and attitude and gringa type behavior.

It's the mentality that counts, not the amount of the gift. If every gringo went down there with the attitude that thier time and presence had value too and that they ONLY had to pay a reasonable rate to acquire intimate company., we would probably be paying about $50 a night for an all-nighter from the DR. Before all the nicey-nice, do-gooder gringos started going it was $20 for an all-nigher with a hot, super sweet chica. As this same nicey-nice gringo mentallity hit other areas like Dom. Rep. and Brazil the same thing has happened, sky-rocketing prices and a decline in service and attitude.

Again, if our presence and good loving were enough, we wouldn't need prostitutes in the first place. We would tame the gringa shrew, reclaim our castles, become more active in controlling our own destinies and generally be more god-like. But we aren't. We slave for criminal corporations, wear neckties that are simply sym bolic leashes, and beg our local women for a little love. It's really not our fault, but we are slaves and behave like groveling eunuchs for a woman's touch.

If you want good service and be respected and to have these women fawn over you, it's easy. It's got nothing to do with age or money. First get yourself in the best shape possible, second make your personality as fun and friendly as possible, third give them a great bang, and most important of all, act confident and have alot of respect for yourself, Know that you have alot to offer(besides money) and deserve the company and attention of a beautiful woman (paid for or not). Don't spend any time or money trying to get her to like you or to win her affection or make her happy. Worry only about liking yourself and making yourself happy and she will be drawn to you, she will be genuinely happy, just to be in your company. She will respect you for you, she won't be asking for extra money or playing any of hundreds of headgames other guys get played with. You'll also probably wind up with quite a few freebies.

The U.S. has become a nation of sexual cripples, re-trained by feminism and largely castrated. Look, I'm 48, I'm 60 pounds overweight (and have been proportionally overweight my entire life). Fun, friendly attitude yes, good bang not necessarily. Confident attitude? Yeah. Great physical shape? Not in anyone's book. So what else can I do to impress? Offer performance incentives, such as propinas.

Jsmyth, your point is well-taken, but sadly if we were all the studs you say we should be, we'd all be banging lovely ones for free.

Damn, I just re-read what I've written and I sound freaking pathetic! :cry:

Prolijo · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:21 am

Actually, I tend to agree with jsmythe. All those other things he mentioned about attitude, condition etc. are nice and certainly help but even they aren't strictly necessary. Sure they wouldn't normally be banging fat old gringo guys but thats what we already are paying them for. We talk about treating these girls nice and with respect and compared to the average tico the guys on this board, at least for the most part, already do just that. To the extent that doesn't work for us we negotiate a rate ahead of time to pay them and we're not paying them expecting the usual mechanical adequate service we can get back home. Tipping, let alone gifting, is not the norm in the Tico culture, and if its done at all should be reserved for the ones that truly are exceptional by CHICA standards.

We're changing that. Even in the US we don't normally tip all service providers. We talk about how these girls are professionals providing us a service. Do you tip your doctor or mechanic? POSSIBLY, you might gift them at X-mas time but you certainly don't do that every time you go in for a check-up. The gifts are really more for us to perpetuate the GFE FANTASY. Of course, the girls like it too and get excited and like any young girl would, but ultimately they need the dough far more.

I don't expect to really change any attitudes on this. All I can hope for is that if you have to gift you don't do it automatically for every chica you meet or even most of them, but reserve it for the REAL cream of the crop that perform way beyond expectations. Take into consideration the already higher standard of service in CR and the comparative base rate you've already paid.

Prolijo
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BTW, DD, these girls are usually very greedy. For them its all about what they can get out of us. If you hold up an assortment of panties for them, I hope you make it quite clear first that they only get to pick one.

Sandino · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:21 pm

jsmythe23,

I wholeheartedly agree. I always cringe when I hear about guys going overboard with the chicas. I realize that some guys only give lingerie and cheap jewelry, but I've also been with girls who have received television sets, boom boxes, and even cars from some of their customers. What the hell is wrong with these guys? Do they really think they are gaining respect and favor from the girls? Obviously not if I'm in there screwing these same girls that they are giving the gifts to.

Another thing I don't quite understand is when the girls at the DR approach potential customers and ask for drinks or cigarettes or what have you. I could only imagine approaching a potential client that I would like to do business with and asking them to take me golfing or out to dinner in a nice restaurant so I could try to get their business. Something seems a little backwards here. I agree that by treating them like gringas, we are going to turn them into gringas. But some guys just don't understand that. Go mongering in Peru or Colombia and you'd be surprised how gringa-like the girls in Costa Rica have already become.

WillySP · **Posted:** Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:01 pm

jsmythe23

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I do agree with some of your points. Self confidence, friendly attitude and treating the women with respect really work wonders.

But I know how it feels when they bring a trinket for me. As Sandinista pointed out I too cringe when I see guys buying boat loads of expensive gifts. I donâ€™t think two pieces of chocolate and a pair of $5.00 or $10.00 panties is going over board.

I donâ€™t give the gifts to every woman but only those that provide a good time or that I want to spend more time with, nor do I give a gift with every visit.

Youâ€™re correct that we all have different views on this and I respect that.

By the way having a small penis makes it easier for them to agree to backdoor fun!

Irish Drifter · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:36 pm

Prolijo wrote

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BTW, DD, these girls are usually very greedy. For them its all about what they can get out of us. If you hold up an assortment of panties for them, I hope you make it quite clear first that they only get to pick one.

Actually I only did the gift thing when I was coming to Costa Rica as a tourist. Like most of us who live here we have acquired a number of amiga's that we see from time to time and do not ply them with little trinkets.

When I was doing the gift thing it was clearly limited to one pair. The selection varied in quality and the quality offered was based on performance. I always found it a worth while investment that paid off well.

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