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 Post subject: Roxanne
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:45 am 
I can do CR without a wingman!

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That's pretty much my situation! :shock: :lol: There are a few members here who have wrestled with this same isssue. It's not easy. I'm not about saving her, but we just click,and she knows it, and there lies the problem.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:24 am 
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In what little experience that I have, I have had a few girls open up to me and tell me all about there boyfriends/Husbands and Ch*ldren. But I noticed this is only after I have let them know that I am not interested in having a girlfriend in Costa Rica. I simply tell them I wouldn't mind being a friend, and just keeping in touch. I tend to do this even with woman in the States and I have shared a deep connection with many.

During my trip in September I me a cute little Colombian that after we had our fun we just talked for two hours about our life and families. Then she even showed me pics of her Ch*ldren and boyfriend. I have to admit I felt a very deep connection with her but I just kept in mind that she is a working girl and she is taken. I even get happy (for them) when I see them score a gringo. Sometime I also go as far as to ask how many they have done. Of course most would lie so that you think they are fresh for you but you'll be surprised on how many actually give me a decent number.

To me my time with these girls are just life experiences, and the possibly of a future friend.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:45 am 
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What suprises me is that guys repeatedly post here and ask for opinions about a girlfriend. This board has a certain percentage, say 60%, that will tell you that it is stupid to have serious feelings for a working girl. Why subject yourself to these people's opinions? They don't know you, they don't know the girl. It is a form of masochism. If you have feelings for a girl, that is your reality, and you can live it and enjoy it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:46 am 
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I know a prominent businessman who married a call girl 25 years younger than himself. He had a nice big house, brand new cars, plenty of money, he gave her most anything she wanted. They had a Ch*ld after 5 years of marriage. She divorced him awhile back taking half the value of the house. He is definately heartbroken and will be paying Ch*ld support well into his golden years. I can see how a man could become attached to these Costa Rican sweeties. I met a couple of them in Jaco that I stayed in touch with via email. I was impressed with them because they had never asked me to send money. I recieved emails from both of them a couple of weeks ago asking for money. I deleted their email and email address from my computor.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:55 am 
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Hi R.W.:

Sometimes I come out a bit strong in a comment. Probably because I have some strong recollections of being in that same situation in past years. But hell, I've said things far worse about my old man's life so don't take it personal.

I certainly understand that you've been around the block and have had your share of experiences with these women. It's just sometime we get blindsided when our guard is let down.....but then again, some want their guard to be down. I basically felt like you needed a little wake up reminder about the problems we incur when being around these much younger women. I have not loved a woman in many years. The sad fact is, much because of mongering, I've hardened myself so much against letting a woman get close to me that it finally placed me into a category I hope you never join......"I will die a lonely man." Yep, when I take my last few glimpses of the ceiling or the floor all I will see will be someone I don't know. No K*ds, no wife, no close lover.....NADA. Not a pleasant thing to see in the near future.

As I've told many guys on here, they are not going to find that "someone" in the mongering circles. I hope you find that special person and hopefully have someone in your late years. Just don't get too hardened like some of us. It paints a dim view toward the end. Take care.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:00 am 
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Dapanz....Yes you are qualified to give advice in this thread. However I am uniquely qualified to comment on your advice. I am confused about your advice here. Are you taking your own advice or just blowing smoke? Are you still with her or not? (Inquiring minds want to know)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:03 am 
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CTY,
I appreciate your candor in this discussion. A re-read usually brings out what was intended to be said, and a re-read has done just that. I am surprised at how quickly people will dismiss the possibilities that there may be genuine feelings between working girls and their clients.They don't work forever, nor want to, and I know a few in MX who gave it up for their gringos. Maybe that is the difference here.

Anyway,this has certainly been a spirited discussion. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:33 am 
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RW.... Perhaps Mexico is different,but here in Costa Rica the chance of having a normal relationship with a "working chica" appears to be almost nil. This is probably why you have gotten so many negative responses. I,for 1, have seen many,many of our member screwed over by chicas who are just doing what they do best. "Hustle Gringos". When I say "screwed over" I am not only talking about financially but more importantly emotionally.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:51 am 
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My mongering friend has seen us for nearly two years back and fro, and has offered that she just can't give herself up,but is coming closer and closer to it.


I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

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They don't work forever, nor want to, and I know a few in MX who gave it up for their gringos. Maybe that is the difference here.


I still contend they all want to lead a "normal" life. Of course a working girl can have feeling for a certain man. They are, after all, human beings. Most of whom forced into a lifestyle they are not thrilled leading.

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just curious if anyone here has made the breakthru. And was it worth pursuing in the long term.


What is the definition of "breakthru.

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There's an old saying "You can take a girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl".


I can only report from my experience. When my "novia" wasn't working she wasn't even the same person as she was while in the bar. I AM NOT SAYING that wouldn't change over time. So, while not trying to give RW false hope about what life might be like, I'm also not discouraging him from trying it if it is what he really wants. But, he better really want it.

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Are you still with her or not? (Inquiring minds want to know)

My only comment to that is that the dynamics have changed radically. My decision, not hers.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:42 pm 
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Dapanz....Please understand that I believe that your relationship with your "Novia" is none of my business. Please feel free to tell me that any time you want. I only chime in when you give other guys advice to run like hell from a relarionship with a working chica (which I happen to agree with) and you don't seem to follow your own advice. Once again,feel free to tell me to go to Hell.


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RW my friend,

I'm hardly an authority on any of this, but if I may offer my two cents - mongering is one thing, a relationship is quite another. If your ultimate goal is a relationship with a Latina, start targeting girls not in the profession and take them out on dates. More than likely, her background, interests, and educational level will more closely match your own anyways.

If, on the other hand, you want to stay in the mongering game, we'll see you at Sportsmen's Saturday the 3rd hopefully primed and ready...

Best,
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I still contend they all want to lead a "normal" life. Of course a working girl can have feeling for a certain man. They are, after all, human beings. Most of whom forced into a lifestyle they are not thrilled leading.
A chicken may really want to soar like an eagle. Don't mean it gonna happen.
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I'm also not discouraging him from trying it if it is what he really wants. But, he better really want it.
I really want to be Joe Cool and date Heidi Klum. Don't mean its gonna happen or what she really wants isn't gonna trump that.

She may not like what she's doing but its what she knows and statistics would probably show the odds are greatly in favor of her reverting to form than undergoing some magical transformation into your suburban dream girl. And you may want to save her, but it won't mean much if she doesn't really want to save herself.

Consider the risk and rewards. A small probability of success and a lifetime of happiness vs. a much larger probability of getting burned, having your heart torn out and hit financially. She may not have asked for money yet, but at the very least its gonna cost to support her for her attempted transition. If it goes as far as marriage, the emotional and financial toll could be even greater when the divorce comes, as it usually does in such matches. If one is looking for a mate, latina or otherwise, a hooker bar is not the place to look.

He alluded to some problems he's already had with this girl in terms of her credibility. Does he think those issues, those basic aspects of her personality, will suddenly disappear just by taking her away from a bar? Does it make any more sense for a guy to think he can change a girl into being something they want than it does when chicks try to do that with us?

RW, already knew the answer that he would get here. So why did he ask? His instincts already told him not to fall for her line when he walked out on her. So why does he need to ask us now? His heart (or perhaps his little head) is tugging him in the different direction than his head and gut are telling him. He's can't really be looking for us to urge him to go with this girl, since he anticipated our response and if thats what he really wanted what we said wouldn't matter anyway. He's looking for reassurance that despite what some of his mixed feelings are telling him he really did make the right decision.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:47 pm 
I can do CR without a wingman!

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RW my friend If, on the other hand, you want to stay in the mongering game, we'll see you at Sportsmen's Saturday the 3rd hopefully primed and ready...

Best,
GR
See you on the 3rd, amigo. BTW, it is the bracelet chica.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:52 pm 
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Some very thoughtful replies. Perhaps I do know part of the answer to my question...but I'm not sure. My friend has seen us together repeatedly, and is amazed at the chemistry we have. Maybe it's smoke and mirrors. They are the greatest actresses in the world,si?

Anyway, CR in 12 days 3 hours.
Hope to meet more of the CRT this trip.


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Once again,feel free to tell me to go to Hell.


VB..you know that isn't my style.

I'll never be one to encourage or discourage a hobbyist to persue a relationship with a working girl. Just using my own personal experience, I don't know why anyone would want to put themselves through all the things you will inevitably encounter. I think RW has his head on straight. I related to his situation and felt compelled to respond.

As for my current status, I'll defer the answer to her. I'd love to know what she has to say these days.

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