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 Post subject: Where lies the truth?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:19 pm 
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I'm posting this here cause the girls don't have anonimity on another site. (not a bad thing, just that it is a small community). I always ask the girls if they are married or have a boyfriend..and they always say no. I am curious if anyone has ever had one fess up, or intimate that they had someone on the "outside". My reason for asking is this: I have a longtime amante in MX, we have our squabbles and such. She is a bar girl.Everyone at her bar knows we have "something" going on.Whenever I go to this bar, and if she is not working, the DJ asks if he should call her to tell her I'm there.

This last trip,friend and I walk in and the waiters say "I'll get ***** for you". She was with someone else in a corner of the bar apparently, but I said "no we are done" too many problems.

As we leave the bar, she practically runs into the street in her stage outfit (which is a huge no-no),and calls out to my friend who calls at me to look back.I go back to talk with her, and she tells me she misses me blah blah.But the problem is, I believe her.And my friend agrees. He lives there, and whenever she sees him, the first words out of her mouth are 'Where is *****?" I miss her as well. But I get promises she often doesn't keep. And I told her such.
But my God, I can't stay away from her....

Flame me now.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:56 pm 
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RearWindow,

I guess it all depends on what you call a boyfriend. I see them leave with many a boy & I suppose they are friends at least for a while anyway.
But I find 98% of the ones I generally go with don't have any native or local boyfirends only guys from another country for the most part. Here is something I find interesting any guy that sends them money is called their boyfriend! So money can't buy love but it can buy plenty of friends it appears?

As long as they perform well in private with me I don't care what they have as long as they don't give it to me.

Zippy


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:03 pm 
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Funny you should bring up this subject.

I have a friend who works the Blue Marlin. She speaks pretty good English. We were chatting a couple weeks ago and she told me many of the girls have either a boyfriend or husband.

I've read far too many posts regarding girls working in Costa Rica, Thailand and the PI who have boyfriends, whether native or gringo.
Someone in their network spots the guy and immediately the girl is notified that MR. X is in town.

I've also read too many reports about guys being with girls who had to take off for an hour or two to be with ANOTHER gringo who is in town and helps support them.

It's all one big mess. Personally I prefer to not get emotionally attached to something that just isn't real and will most likely break my heart and leave me broke in the end.

But that's just me.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:14 pm 
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Witling,

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It's all one big mess. Personally I prefer to not get emotionally attached to something that just isn't real and will most likely break my heart and leave me broke in the end.

Now that sums it all up persisly, well done. If everyone would burn this into their little brain on the flight down there & repeat it 10 times before they go to sleep they would be better off I believe! It's like anything else drugs, alcohol etc. the weak will be consumed!!

Thanks for that line!

Zipp

PS Yes it is a big mess but it is the most fun mess I have every played with by far!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:46 pm 
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YO Rear:
This is not a "Dear Abby" site. No, not flaming you but Geezzz, you are talking about a "Bar Girl" or working chica. I do not know anything about you but this is the same stuff that gringos find distasteful in gringas. Don't go south of the border looking for love........it ain't there 98% of the time. I hope you can get some gonads and start anew. Not knowing your age, where you live or how often you travel abroad.....it is difficult to understand your problem. Now that I have stated that brash comment.......good luck.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:08 pm 
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Circus the younger wrote:
YO Rear:
This is not a "Dear Abby" site. No, not flaming you but Geezzz, you are talking about a "Bar Girl" or working chica. I do not know anything about you but this is the same stuff that gringos find distasteful in gringas. Don't go south of the border looking for love........it ain't there 98% of the time. I hope you can get some gonads and start anew. Not knowing your age, where you live or how often you travel abroad.....it is difficult to understand your problem. Now that I have stated that brash comment.......good luck.
YO Circus the Younger. Thanks for your totally useless feedback. Get a few years of mongering under your belt, and you will know what I am talking about, compadre.It WILL happen to you one day.
Cheers.RW


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If there is one thread that I am uniquely qualified to comment on it is this one. RW..in my experience, none of the girls will tell you that they have a b/f or husband. Why would they? They understand that guys go to CR or other destinations looking to fulfill some type of fantasy. Why would the girl blow it and say, "Yeah, I have a husband."

I actually had one guy ask my "novia" if she had a boyfriend/husband. I was (believe it or not) shocked that she denied me. She will however acknowledge me in front of guys that we mutually know. You guys know who you are. And, of course, half of the working girls know me, therefore I can not walk into the Del Rey unaccompanied. Last week I got busted cold in the Del Rey at like 9AM!!!! One of her friends called her and told her I came in a day early. I got a phone call at the Prez. I only answered because I thought it was Mente looking for me. When I heard her voice, I almost crapped in my shorts.

I even had one board member, who doesn't know me from the Pope tell me, "Be careful with xxxxxx, she is looking for a gringo sugar daddy." Wow.

Bottom line is that she probably does like you alot and probably does miss you. But, you can't expect her to throw away the possibility of money by admitting to having a relationship. I'm not sure how I would feel if I was to try and pick up the "love of the hour" if she told me she had a husband/boyfriend and K*ds. The only way to know for sure is to see if you can get her out of the life. It's impossible to have a "normal" male/female relationship with a girl who has sex with other men for money. This is one area, I can say without hesitation, that you can't do half ass. If it's such a big deal to you..get her out. If you have no intention on taking things to another level. GET OUT NOW. Save yourself the heartache,frustration and money. This is the best advice I can give you.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:51 pm 
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Excellent points. I'm not in love..but she IS a great F**k.However, I am most comfortable with her away from the bar as well, and we have done that more than a few times. There are few times in life when you meet a sexual match, and she is just about spot on. And this is not weeks or months ,but YEARS..Past that, I have to deal with a Mexicana. Guess I'll manage somehow. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:24 pm 
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RW..I may have to call bullshit on this one. My question to you is this: When she came running back to you and you talked, did you take her in? If so, then you 2 are playing childish high school games. I'm not flaming you at all. I'm speaking from experience. If you are done with her, be done with her. Great sex can be found again..trust me. The worst sex I ever had was pretty good. And surely paying by the hour is the most economical.

I understand all about the chemistry. The greatest sexual organ any of us posses is the mind. So, if you are connected other than just physically, the sex will be quantum leaps better than the usual p4p. This is called "playing with fire." And, we all know what usually happens when testosterone pumped males play with fire. Ouch. :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:40 pm 
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RearWindow wrote:
YO Circus the Younger. Thanks for your totally useless feedback. Get a few years of mongering under your belt, and you will know what I am talking about, compadre.It WILL happen to you one day.
Cheers.RW


RW,
Apparently you're a little slow on the uptake. Circus the Younger is no more "the younger" than I am "The Man". You guys that stuck with CRS to the bitter end know what I'm talking about. Anyway, some guys just like to K*D around. "Young Circus" probably has more years mongering under his belt than you and I combined (plus all the minis he stole from his old man) and he does know what he's talking about. Besides, I'm sure he has also learned a lot from his old man though he'd never admit it :roll: :wink: . Granted he could have phrased his advice a bit more diplomatically but he probably figured you needed a slap in the face to knock you back to reality.

From everything I've heard about Mexican putas, they are even more mercenary and calculating than our CR chicas. She wasn't running out on the street due to real heartbreak. She was just scared that her cash cow meal ticket was slipping through her fingers. Listen to the advice of Wit and Zip. They have a grip on reality and know what they're talking about.

Dapanz1 raised some good points too from the perspective of one that has been there but I disagree with one comment he made which suggests to me he has not completely learned his lesson. "The only way to know for sure is to see if you can get her out of the life. It's impossible to have a "normal" male/female relationship with a girl who has sex with other men for money. This is one area, I can say without hesitation, that you can't do half ass. If it's such a big deal to you..get her out." He's absolutely right that it's impossible to have a "normal" male/female relationship with a girl who has sex with other men for money. But his advice to see if you can get her out of the life is dangerously bad. There's an old saying "You can take a girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl". These places are great to go looking for a girl to have a fun time with or even to find one that you can live out the FANTASY of a real GFE, but they are lousy places to find real marriage or even just girlfriend material.

Some girls try to hide the fact that they have real husbands or boyfriends at home and some girls really don't because they've burnt out on guys, having seen us at our lustful and oft times abusive worst, and now see all men as just something to be played for whatever money they can extract by using their sexual charms and playing on our fantasies and emotional weaknesses.

Go ahead and "save her". Get her out of the bar. Bring her back to the states and marry her even. See if her money demands just don't continue to grow until it becomes painfully apparent that was your main appeal all along.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:21 pm 
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RW,

I think everyone makes good points here but let’s get real. We know when we phuck around with women we are going to find some one that the chemistry goes off the scale it is only natural but you have to discipline yourself for this eventuality & enjoy it for what it is if you go beyond this point you are only going to phuck with yourself. You want to find something worth while look in worth while places. Let’s use common sense here please? You will only waste a good part of your life which you can ill afford trying to convert a working girl to no avail is my belief. This time is better spend looking for love in all the right places. You do what makes you happy it is your life but don't say we didn't tell you the truth no lie!

I think women are never the same mentally when they have many-many sex partners in life be it a puta or not & I feel it is the same somewhat for me also as it poisons us all to some degree but this is one poison I seem to like.

Good luck,
Zippy


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:11 pm 
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RW,

This is not going to work! No way, no how! Enjoy your time with her but don’t get too attached. Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts and then find someone else to relive it with.

I know from experience how these things go, my favorita from Rio dropped out of the scene without warning after spending time in Spain and Germany, she probably found someone who would marry her, that was her goal with me. I’m heading back to Rio in two days and I’ll be hooking up some time with an ex-GDP. She was being supported by a Gringo who wanted her to get off the programme, instead she switched Terma’s while he paid for her apartment. Then she finally quit the programme when they got engaged. But she still wants to see me and I’m going to give her a call at some point in my trip. I told her I was coming down and she now wants to be with me all throughout my trip.

It’s a simple fact, these girls cannot be believed or trusted. They are looking for a way out of their life and will do or say anything to reach that goal. All too many are looking for a sugar daddy to save them.

And to your initial question, yes she probably does have a boyfriend if she is not already married. I’ve often seen girls in Rio head to the Terma with their boyfriends who drop them off and pick them up later. She may also have a number of sugar daddies too. Don’t worry about it, just enjoy your time with her whether or not it’s outside the bar.


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I think women are never the same mentally when they have many-many sex partners in life be it a puta or not & I feel it is the same somewhat for me also as it poisons us all to some degree but this is one poison I seem to like.


Excellent piece of writing Zippy. Totally agree with that statement.
Women who have had a high amount of sex partners think weird.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:21 am 
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Thanks for all the replies , gents.Where to start...
Apologies to CTY,and those that maybe haven't walked where I have.

I am not a newbie to this little hobby of ours, and have been with many a woman that would make one's teeth grind in anticipation.

No , I did not take her "back" that nite, in fact I read her the riot act about not being reliable, and I have never been her cash cow, we have usually been together sin dinero.I 'm not talking about "saving" her from her job, just about the reality that we might actually have a passion for each other.

My mongering friend has seen us for nearly two years back and fro, and has offered that she just can't give herself up,but is coming closer and closer to it.
I'm not broken hearted about it, just curious if anyone here has made the breakthru. And was it worth pursuing in the long term.

She won't move here (US), but could, and I would move closer there in a nanosecond. I just love the city and area.. :D


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:30 am 
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Hard to keep one's wits while somebody's tugging at your heart strings.

Didn't Sting and The Police write a song in the early 1980's about getting attached to and wanting to "save" a woman named "Roxanne?"

I wonder about Sting's motivation to write that song, and how it all turned out.

How would things likely work out a few years after marrying a prostitute from a totally different culture?

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But my God, I can't stay away from her....


Would this be more accurate?:

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But my God, I continue to choose not staying away from her . . .


Ringo


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