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The remarks here surprise me. Many of the guys on this board have regular girls in Costa Rica or Rio and would be pissed off completely if another board member was going behind their back and meeting up with them. These are working pros!! I would venture to say that all of you who have significant others or wives now would be pissed off if they found anyone going behind their backs to get to their women.

I had an occasion in Costa Rica where one of the board members was involved to some degree with a honey at Kamur. I didn't know about it and made arrangements with her. I found out about the relationship with the board member and backed off. Is it okay for me to go visit her on my September trip? Board member, I talked to you about it, will you give me the okay???

Am I to believe that the consensus here is that if you don't know the husband or the man in the relationship, it is okay to screw the woman. After all, she came on to him and we men have no choice but to take advantage of every situation we can. Oh wait, isn't that one of the complaints about gringas that they use the system against the male because they can???

If you didn't know TMAN and his girlfriend came on to you, is it okay to tap that??? TMAN, do you support this theory that it is okay as long as you don't know the man involved?

What is funny to me in this case is that the woman is basically being given the benefit of the doubt as the good person and the man is the controlling individual who is not taking care of the women but, those of you with divorces and bad situations, seem to indicate that it is always the gringas fault.

I guess we men will find a way to justify just about anything that we do and not take responsibility. If the gringas have lost the ability to have long term relationships, we men somewhere have lost all morality when it comes down to whether we turn down p*ssy or not. Are we really only as smart as our small head????

Subatomic,

I, for one, feel that what you did was wrong on many levels. least of all being do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. It doesn't matter if the girl was laying with legs spread wide and eyes inviting you in, you knew that she was married and it was morally deficient on your part. But I am sure that you will justify it any way you want so that you can live with it.

Dave

Lots of good replies, and even those challenging questions from Dave.

#1: SAFETY. If you've never had the bedroom door kicked in at 5 A.M. by a husband who drove all night to see his honey, you've missed an experience you only need to have once in your life. Just be bigger than the guy, and make sure he's got no guns. Tall order, huh?

(Oh, yeah -- I felt so responsible for busting them up, I married the b----- and she did it to me, too. )

That's what hotels are for, you fool! You were lucky if you got away with this one time at the house.

Do your research. Don't let her know your address. Get a disposable cell phone (and get her one, too -- yeah, I know, that could end up being a tip-off, too.) Take alternating routes to any rendezvous, park her car, and then drive yours to the hotel. Be prepared to deny everything.

Sheesh! Lotta work. But I can see how tempting a "Tica next door" could be.

"Late at night, a big old house gets lonely.
I guess every form of refuge has its price.
But it breaks her heart to think her love is only
Given to a man with hands as cold as ice.

You can't hide your lyin' eyes..."

Some really good replies here and Dave I have to echo your sentiments with one caveat.....

Subatomic, I think many of us have been in the position before, and even acted on it. We are human, we are man we are DOGS.. it is someone natural to do what we do as situations arise and we take advantage of things. Being she is latina, Tica, beautiful and available does it change the facts.

Would you have done it if she was blonde hot gringa or was it the fact that she was Tica make the difference.

As stated, I think many of us have been there and have acted as you have. It is what you do now that will define the expierience and how you can live with yourself.

I personally have also slept in the bed of another, and as Dapanz said felt terribly guilty after the fact. It happened once and my morality was such I could no do it again. No matter how much I wanted the relationship to continue I could not bring myself to be the person to take advantage regularly of the situation. I explained to her I could not in all good conscience continue on until she was no longer in her position. I did not ask her to leave him or make a decision regarding me only that I could not continue in this manner.

Your decision is up to you, and I feel it is how you handle it forward which will define this situation.

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Dave,
I'm surprised you're so shocked since I got the exact opposite sense. It seems to me that I'm the only one here giving this chica the benefit of the doubt and buying the controlling husband story. It seems to me that most of the guys here are actually being highly consistent and projecting their own bad marriages and the idea that the women is always at fault.

My point was that subatomic was not somehow destroying a marriage. Whatever problems are there were there before him and would be there even without him. If this woman is not already cheating with other guys, she probably will with someone else eventually unless she and her husband take a real serious look at their marriage.

Is this somehow taking advantage of a bad situation someone else is in? No more so than what any of us are doing when we go to any economically disadvantaged country like CR to have sex with its women. It is somewhat self-righteous, hypocritical or at best myopic for anyone who does that to say this is somehow any worse. The question in my 2nd post still remains unanswered why is it any worse for a wife to cheat with a guy than it is to do what many of us do and lie to our wives go down to CR to cheat with literally dozens of women? Keep in mind that marriages liek yours where your wive actually accompanies and participates with you on your mongering trips is extremely rare. Where would you be if you weren't married to such a rare woman? If there is any moral rationalization going on here, there has been plenty to go around.

Would I be "pissed off if (I) found anyone going behind (my) backs to get to (my) women"? Of course. If some guy was coming on to my wife knowing she was married, I'd be pissed at him. But not nearly as angry as I would be at my wife if she acted on it or worse initiated it. And if I were really sensible about it, which I must admit would be difficult, I would have to evaluate not just her behavior but my own as to what might have contributed to her desire to stray. And I would not refer to my wife as "my woman". I don't OWN her. She's her OWN woman who hopefully loves me enough not to stray.

Would it matter if we actually knew the guy in question? Yes, it would. If someone I knew knew my wife was cheating on me, I would hope they would let me know rather than take advantage of the situation. Since we don't know this guy, that is not really an option unless you're suggesting that subatomic send this guy a note or advise the girl to go back to her husband or seek counseling. Admittedly the middle ground is to stay completely out of it, but then the marriage stays bad and she just cheats with someone else. Some guy is going to take her up on her offer, why not you? It makes absolutely no difference so why use that as a reason not to take advantage.

Dave, I think your problem is that you are overly decent. Your Kamur example seems totally ridiculous to me. These are working girls. There is no violation of trust on anyones part because extracurricular activities were expected on everyone's part from the very beginning. Going with other guys is what they do whether we choose to delude ourselves of that fact or not. In that case it makes little difference if we know the other guy in question and I certainly wouldn't expect another member to ask my permission to go with any one of my prostitute "girlfriends", when she is already going with dozens of other guys.

TMan's case is altogether different because his novia is not a working pro and knowing and respecting TMan I would never do such a thing to a friend. In such cases, it would not be just the wife or novia that would be violating a confidence it would be a violation of the confidence between me and TMan or whatever other member and friend was involved. SO your analogies don't quite match up.

Deleted. The tranquilizers finally kicked in.

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Subatomic,

I am sure you are a great guy and I could have a beer with you. And that was a rightfully titled Bad, Bad Thing.

But dude, did you miss school the day they went over "the guy code"? Here area few excerpts:

Your buddy's sister is off-limits.
You can't phuck your buddy's ex unless you ask his permission and he gives it.
Don't phuck another man's wife. (unless they swing & he says okay)

Phuck all the working girls you want, phuck all the single women you want, but stay away from the married ones. Worse than stealing a guy's horse.

Wouldn't you beat the sh!t out of a guy if you caught him in bed with YOUR wife? what if you caught the mailman in bed with your mother while your father was at work? Damn! He should've caught you and had his henchmen bust your balls...

If you play with fire...

Luv ya, mean it,
RHM

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Eu gosto de brasileiras...

If the guy were raping my wife, you bet I would, otherwise, why should I?

If I caught some guy phucking my wife (ex now), I would give him a high-five, as I had been trying to get back in those panties since I said "I Do!"

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Here's to Looking like Movie Stars, Partying like Rock Stars and phucking like PORN STARS!

There are many unknowns here, we don't really know who the guilty parties are, probably a combination of everyone involved. But given a beautiful woman, particularly from a third world country with probably a prior lower standard of living recently (about one year) married to a wealthy guy who easily cheats on him in her own home thinking she is safe because he is out of town, we have a powderkeg. She has issues because she is still there and cheating, we don't know her true motivation, but she stands to loose everything, including her life by doing this. Not a good recommendation for a long term relationship with her next lover. Regardless of his feelings for her, you are violating his home and his marriage in his eyes and justified or not, there is a high probability he may do you harm in the moment of discovery and probably get away with it if his explanation is plausible to the authorities. Remember, he is rich and you are in his house. The morality can be debated ad nauseum but the bottom line is for your own safety do not return to his house and if he is really possessive, I would shy away from a repeat performance, because he probably already knows or suspects, hiring a private detective to get the information he needs is well within his means, and your body is accessible to him or his hired help and you have no idea how he will react. Watch Revenge with Kevin Costner. It isn't worth your life. This is not a Del Rey girl at work, it is someones new bride, very dangerous territory. Beware

Goetz

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In heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here!

Ditto Goetz.

Some guys have balls. Her husband might be one of them.

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Eu gosto de brasileiras...

Still no answer from all the guys that think this is so horrible: why is it wrong for a wife to cheat with a guy on her husband but okay for married men to lie to their wives and go down to CR and Phuck dozens of women?

Prolijo,

We will have to agree to disagree. No justfication will make what he did right with me. He did it to get screwed. He didn't do it to provide morale support or a better life. It doesn't make him a better man in any manner.

You wrote:

"My point was that subatomic was not somehow destroying a marriage. Whatever problems are there were there before him and would be there even without him. If this woman is not already cheating with other guys, she probably will with someone else eventually unless she and her husband take a real serious look at their marriage."

This is silly. Assume the worst to justify your situation in screwing. Perhaps, this was the first time. Perhaps, this is the beginning of the end of her relationship with the man. Assuming as you have is not really making a good argument whatsoever. She could have just been having a bad day. They do happen and people do make one mistake by itself every now and then. You don't know!

You wrote:

"It is somewhat self-righteous, hypocritical or at best myopic for anyone who does that to say this is somehow any worse. The question in my 2nd post still remains unanswered why is it any worse for a wife to cheat with a guy than it is to do what many of us do and lie to our wives go down to CR to cheat with literally dozens of women? "

Who said that it is worse? But, in my opinion, it is somewhat understandable to me because most of these gentlemen here end up saving their sanity, marriage and relationship by letting off steam in CR. I am not even going against the wife. I am going against the man who knowlingly gets involved with a married woman that he knows nothing about but his actions could cause disastrous effects. No, repeat, no good can come from he did.

You wrote:

Admittedly the middle ground is to stay completely out of it, but then the marriage stays bad and she just cheats with someone else. Some guy is going to take her up on her offer, why not you? It makes absolutely no difference so why use that as a reason not to take advantage."

This is absurd. Someone else is going to screw her, therefore, I better do it first. You don't have any reason or fact for this statement, just your surmising the worst. Negative versus positive. You seem to advance the worst theory only. I gues if the corner bank was robbed last week and it will be done in the future, it is okay to go ahead and beat the next robber to the punch?

You wrote:

"Your Kamur example seems totally ridiculous to me. These are working girls."

GreyGhost: Do you agree? Is it okay to go after her when I go down?

Dino: How about your Rio terma girls? Is it okay?

Admin 1: Would you please give me the name of your special girl?

All others: I am looking for your quality girls in Costa Rica for my next trip. Please advise soonest.

Let us see how many agree with you concerning girlfriends.

You wrote:

"TMan's case is altogether different because his novia is not a working pro and knowing and respecting TMan I would never do such a thing to a friend."

Was this lady a working pro? Again, you are assuming that she was at one time. So, it is okay to screw someone that you haven't met. That is a good rule of thumb. Pass it on to your k*ds. Only screw those that you haven't met yet and hope that you will not meet them in the future.

Like I said, agree to disagree. We will all justify what we do but Subatomic went at this for the screw only and it could only cause problems. That just isn't right in my view.

Dave

SubAtomic I think this every time I leave CR!!

I bet this guy is messing around on his trip outside the US & see feels this any wagers? We are creatures of habit & I have very bad habits by some peoples standards. I wouldn't worry to much as if she was in love with this guy this would not have happened I believe. Looks like a convience marriage too me.

What goes around comes around & if you are married & screw around you better be able to except the same. Really better if this happens that both parties never know unless it is an open marriage. It is my belief once we have so many different partners it becomes like poison (greed) you just want more or different & this affects male & female the same as long as they have had great experiences with multiple partners. From what I have seen if you are totally in love & lustfully focused on one person nothing else even registers with that person but the one they are locked on. Hard to keep it this way over many years though.

I don't think good Latinas make a bad wife at all. You just have to find the ones that haven't been with that many men & are truly in love with you other wise expect these results.

Great story to share thanks,

Zippy

I bet 90% or more of the guys here would have taken your path .

Projilo wrote

Respectfully, it seems like an argumentative question. Subatomic laid his cards on the table and we spoke.

I believe that the married guys who monger/whorticultivate have their own demons with which to wrestle. This is not a squeaky clean hobby without shades of gray.

It's a gentleman's game, the choice is ours to act like one.

RHM

P.S. Remember WWVBD What Would Vegas Bob Do?

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Eu gosto de brasileiras...

Well I am not married and no steady so I know it wasn't in my bed, but.....

On one hand I know that spouses do cheat and it takes two to tango/tangle or whatever. I personally am not into doing a girl if she is married or even has a boyfriend...at the same time I typically don't interview the hell out of girls when I meet them and as I think about it maybe some of these girls down in CR have boyfriends or husbands that I don't know of.

I just don't get off on it and if I know the girl is attached, I'm pretty much done. Too many problems and the girl is probably a head case anyway.. but too each his own.

One thing that I know that I could NEVER do is Phuck another dudes wife or girlfriend in the guys house he lives in. It's just not me...reasoning is kind of along the lines as too many fish in the sea too have to do that, especially when I know of too many guys working their balls off to try to be good providers and all. Not too mention, CR and other mongering hotspots can be found all over the world.

Not trying to sound holier than thou or anything (especially considering the forum) But I can say anybody whoever met me (or has never met me) on this board would NEVER have too worry about me sneaking into their house to Phuck their wife. No matter how beautiful, rich or whatever...A dudes home is his castle and that area is as personal as it gets.

There are limits that no manipulative gringa, tica or whoever is going to get me too cross. Just my two cents.