Probably the best post thus far.
Bktuna wrote:
The gay sex tourist are typically not looking for trannies. I was in no way talking about "outing" any CRT members. To each his own. My point was they are out there becasue they do get business.
Most of the noise is the result of young Ticos on the way back from El Pueblo stopping and yelling insults at the Tranny's and them responding.
Brother Jazzbo and I were coming back from an evening of drinking and music and did see a guy benidng over a tranny and giving it to Her/He right on the sidewalk.
To my knowledge the park incident s of tranny muggings seem to have stopped a few years ago. There have been no recent reports that I am aware of.
As I said, I don't know much about the travel-habits of the gay sex tourists but figured they mostly brought their own partners with them and went elsewhere in CR. I should also clarify that I wasn't really being serious about outing any CRTer. I agree, to each his own.
But mostly I wanted to say that I'm glad you clarified that the noise you were complaining about earlier was as much the fault of regular ticos hassling the Trannies (and the Trannies responding) as anything else. This underscores what the AM Costa Rica article was alluding to about the Trannies being subject to a lot of scorn, humiliation, discrimination and persecution. Again, it should be noted that the police sweep was directed entirely at the Trannies who are mainly just trying to mind their own business (and those in a position to see what the Trannies are doing) rather than at the young drunken hooligans who are hassling them and probably are really the ones committing most of the crimes that occur in that area late at night. So I'm also glad that you added that the perception of the Trannies as the source of much of the robberies that go on after dark is based on old and outdated information if it ever even was a significant portion of the robberies at all.
Your take on the behaviors of the Trannies is based on nightly firsthand close observation since you live and work directly in the heart of the area where the Trannies hang out and so I would be a lot of stock in what you have to say on the subject. Your description is in marked contrast with this depiction by El T:
El Tranquilo wrote:
... I agree with you that transvestites should not be a class of citizens who should be treated any differently than you or me.
However, let's imagine that you and I and fifty of our friends congregated every night in a relatively nice neighborhood, making noise pretty much throughout the night, occasionally getting in fights with each other, some of our group occasionally robbing passers-by, probably some of us selling drugs. should we be surprised when some night some cops come and talk to us.
I've never seen the trannies congregating in groups of 50 or more every night in a relatively nice neighborhood, making noise continuously late into the night (though that description might as easily and accurately be applied to the mongers at the SL bar). They do hang out in smaller groups (for mutual protection) and they do shout back in response to taunts by drunken homophobic young ticos. They don't get into fights with each other any more so than the gangmembers who also hang out in that neighborhood and probably much less so. Though they probably do have to occasionally fend off assaults by their clients (like the one in the pick-up) and/or homophobic gay-bashers (like the young ticos BK described). And any incidents of robbing and drug-dealing amongst the Trannies is also probably far less common than it is amongst those gangbangers. Or at least there haven't been any recent reports about Trannies being involved in those things even as the amount of those sorts of crimes occurring late at night in those neighborhoods continues to be very high. So IMHO the above depiction by El T is a prime example of the sort of unfair and higly inaccurate stereotyping and prejudice that these Trannies face and which is used as by pols like Chinchilla as an excuse to persecute them further.
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