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...Behind all of this is the fact that the underlying activity for which he is incarcerated "Promoting CR as destination for sexual tourism" is legal. We dont see the CR authorities closing down any whorehouses do we?

MPs in Costa Rica do not go on international websites and advertise "come to costa rica and get yer dick sucked by a hoe!!!", which is exactly what CD did. He exposed the entire country to ridicule (in their eyes), and he did it with an aire that got him in trouble. There is no compare to legal businesses IN Costa Rica. He advertised the country as a whole, and not just single businesses.

Having now personally experienced the conditions that he is in, I pity him (now). But he's got to see it through. He has no alternative.

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MPs in Costa Rica do not go on international websites and advertise "come to costa rica and get yer dick sucked by a hoe!!!", which is exactly what CD did. He exposed the entire country to ridicule (in their eyes), and he did it with an aire that got him in trouble. There is no compare to legal businesses IN Costa Rica. He advertised the country as a whole, and not just single businesses.

Having now personally experienced the conditions that he is in, I pity him (now). But he's got to see it through. He has no alternative.


As usual you miss the point ! Your post is "Restatement of the Obvious Part XXXV". Everybody knows what CD did was stupid, arrogant, and whatever other term you want to use. We also know he was extremely careless in the way he conducted himself after his previous brushes with authority. The point is the punishment does not fit the crime. CD was not and is not the only one who posted about prostitution in CR. To state that he has no alternative is lame considering he has no bond and he has been locked up for over a year. Believe me your 12 hours in the whole does not compare to more than 12 months for being a blowhard.

The authorities in CR are not embarrassed by prostitution being legal and posted about on the internet, if they were they would do more than lock up a 65 year old man.


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...Behind all of this is the fact that the underlying activity for which he is incarcerated "Promoting CR as destination for sexual tourism" is legal. We dont see the CR authorities closing down any whorehouses do we?

MPs in Costa Rica do not go on international websites and advertise "come to costa rica and get yer dick sucked by a hoe!!!", which is exactly what CD did. He exposed the entire country to ridicule (in their eyes), and he did it with an aire that got him in trouble. There is no compare to legal businesses IN Costa Rica. He advertised the country as a whole, and not just single businesses.

Having now personally experienced the conditions that he is in, I pity him (now). But he's got to see it through. He has no alternative.


I don't think CD was that foul mouthed in his videos. At least not any that I've seen. In fact he spoke highly of the country and the beauty. He even spoke of how professional the Police Department is. Of course he also eluded to what everyone of us enjoy that is legal.

Bad situation all the way around.

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I don't think CD was that foul mouthed in his videos. At least not any that I've seen. In fact he spoke highly of the country and the beauty. He even spoke of how professional the Police Department is. Of course he also eluded to what everyone of us enjoy that is legal.

Bad situation all the way around.


Exactly right! In my opinion the authorities in the DR handled it about right. Banned him from the country and sent him home. However the morons in CR decided to punish him more than they would a person who committed a much more serious offenses. Bunch of vindictive morons IMHO.


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[/quote]Behind all of this is the fact that the underlying activity for which he is incarcerated "Promoting CR as destination for sexual tourism" is legal. We dont see the CR authorities closing down any whorehouses do we? They dont care if they have prostitution you just cant post about on the internet. The law is repugnant and against any concept of fairness. CD could wind up doing more time for being an egotistical blowhard than someone else does for killing or raping someone. That's phucked up ![/quote]

We can think what we want about the fairness of the law... but that is a CR issue and perhaps their courts or government will deal with it at some time. But the activity of "promoting CR as a destination ...." appears to be against the law. And I doubt there will be any public outcry in CR over the unfairness of this law. And protesting by those of us on such forums as this will do nothing to help, and perhaps might even hinder, the cause of seeing a more fair approach.

I think that sentences are prescribed by law in CR... but the sentences have little to do with what actually happens later. Jails are overcrowded and for that, or other reasons, criminals often only serve a small fraction of their time.


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Rational humans touch a hot stove once and learn a lesson. Guys like CD don't learn. They keep touching hot stoves, even after being warned. The DR threw him out. Did he learn? Phuck No! He went to another FOREIGN COUNTRY and continued the insanity. CD's life is CD's fault.

The elected CR Government makes the CR laws. Not us Gringos. Don't like a particular Country's laws, then don't go to that country. Acceptance doesn't require approval or Likes. Jeeeeeezus!!! :x

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I don't think CD was that foul mouthed in his videos. At least not any that I've seen. In fact he spoke highly of the country and the beauty. He even spoke of how professional the Police Department is. Of course he also eluded to what everyone of us enjoy that is legal.

Bad situation all the way around.


Exactly right! In my opinion the authorities in the DR handled it about right. Banned him from the country and sent him home. However the morons in CR decided to punish him more than they would a person who committed a much more serious offenses. Bunch of vindictive morons IMHO.

+1....Is the trial going on now? Here's to hoping they let him out this week....Seems more a personal vendetta for something than "enforcing the law." CR took a gamble on this and lucked out the story didn't make international headlines and TV news. Even though it is their laws, locking up an American for blogging would be much worse publicity for them image-wise than publicizing prostitution.

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Rational humans touch a hot stove once and learn a lesson. Guys like CD don't learn. They keep touching hot stoves, even after being warned. The DR threw him out. Did he learn? Phuck No! He went to another FOREIGN COUNTRY and continued the insanity. CD's life is CD's fault.

The elected CR Government makes the CR laws. Not us Gringos. Don't like a particular Country's laws, then don't go to that country. Acceptance doesn't require approval or Likes. Jeeeeeezus!!! :x



Nosejelly you have about one whole trip to the CR under your belt, now your giving advice ? :roll: The CD saga in the CR goes back many years. He had hundreds of post in the picture section of this website and many members called him out and some even threatened him. Most of the pictures were CD with his arm wrapped around a chica and CD with a shit eating grin on his face.

When CD became persona non grata on CRT he switched to Sosua. In Sosua he was a big promoter of a place called "Passions" a well known high end club on Pedro Clisante, a few blocks away from ground zero in Sosua. Passions got shut down and CD sort of wore out his welcome there. The last time he flew into the DR he was denied admittance into the country and sent back home. He then switched back to CR and meet his fate.

Yes he was a blowhard who should have known better. Having said that no human being deserves the punishment he has received. Enough is enough. As Captain Cohiba just pointed out he is being punished for blogging.

FWIW : You will find that most of the members of CRT are highly educated sucessful people and understand that each country has a right to promulgate their own laws. However, this is an open message board and the memebers have the right to post their opinions within reasonable bounds as set forth by the adminstrators of this board. If we dont like a law or a policy we have a right to post about it. Telling people, about 95% of whom have more experience than you, not to go to a particular country , if we don't agree with their laws, is lame.


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As usual you miss the point ! Your post is "Restatement of the Obvious Part XXXV". Everybody knows what CD did was stupid, arrogant, and whatever other term you want to use. We also know he was extremely careless in the way he conducted himself after his previous brushes with authority.

Then it is obvious that he is getting his just reward.

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The point is the punishment does not fit the crime.

This is a complete fabrication, Mike. look, I feel sorry for the guy, but even after they passed their stupid law, he continued to believe that as a USA citizen, HIS LAWS reign supreme. You are making the same error in assuming that our laws somehow trump other nations' laws.

Listen, CR doesn't care what happens inside their borders, so long as it makes for a healthy-functioning economy and social system. They are not trying to deny women the right to work as they see fit. But they do not want people advertising the country for prostitution. Every Central & South American country has the same take on it, and I doubt any particularly want their country on the front pages for it. It's embarrassing to go public with something that they don't even publicly discuss themselves.

It is foolish for USA citizens to armchair advocate 'fair punishment' when it has nothing to do with us. I agree that they should just kick him out, but my opinion means nadda to the situation.

Let's just hope that they give him 'time served' and send him home. He's learned his lesson (and all of us have learned it too), and Ojala! he will be sent home very soon.

I just hope he doesn't pop up in MDE to ruin that scene too.

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Nosejelly you have about one whole trip to the CR under your belt, now your giving advice ? :roll:

His opinion is as valuable as yours and mine.

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As Captain Cohiba just pointed out he is being punished for blogging.

Death penalty in many countries.

Loco Mike wrote:
FWIW : You will find that most of the members of CRT are highly educated sucessful people and understand that each country has a right to promulgate their own laws. However, this is an open message board and the memebers have the right to post their opinions within reasonable bounds as set forth by the adminstrators of this board.

which is what Nosejelly did, and you are doing now.

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If we dont like a law or a policy we have a right to post about it. Telling people, about 95% of whom have more experience than you, not to go to a particular country , if we don't agree with their laws, is lame.

No, it's good advice. I don't want to go to countries where their laws interfere with what I consider my inalienable rights.

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Nosejelly you have about one whole trip to the CR under your belt, now your giving advice ? :roll: Telling people, about 95% of whom have more experience than you, not to go to a particular country , if we don't agree with their laws, is lame.


You have more experience regarding CR, so what?? CR isn't the only place I've been to outside of the USA. Every country I've traveled to for business or Mongering has a CD "super cool" guy that gives the rest of us a bad rep. Nothing lame about using logic and common sense when traveling outside the USA. Kudos to you for touching down in CR more times than me! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Cuba Dave featured in VICE today...

http://www.vice.com/read/the-cautionary-tale-of-cuba-dave


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Thanks for the post PJClay, a good article now it looks like the trial has been continued to November. Still not sure how much plea bargaining factors into the CR justice system. By November he will have 14+ months time served. Semms like a guilty plea in exchange for credit time served might be advantageous for both sides. The authorities in CR achieve a guilty verdict, CD gets to go home.


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The longer he remains in jail, the more he is serving a "sentence"...regardless of the legal facts :roll:

Unfortunately for CD, the clock cannot be turned back. They are taking away a valuable portion of his remaining life!


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The World's Most Famous Sex Tourist Is Fighting to Free Himself from Costa Rican Prison
By Michael Krumholtz

September 14, 2016


David "Cuba Dave" Strecker posing with two sex workers. All photos courtesy of David Strecker

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When police handcuffed David Strecker on September 4, 2015 in a Costa Rican airport, the 66-year-old American remembers thinking he'd only have to answer a few questions before he could board his flight back home.

But Strecker never made it on the plane. He's been behind bars ever since after being accused of violating Costa Rican law by promoting prostitution. Now, Strecker—a Florida resident who ran a popular blog about his sexual exploits abroad, mainly in countries like the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and Costa Rica, where prostitution is legal—will be the first person ever tried under the law in the country's history.

The statute Strecker is being charged under is part of a 2013 human trafficking law that, among other things, prohibits the use of any media to promote the country as a "tourist destination accessible for the exploitation of sexual commerce or for the prostitution of persons of any sex or age."

Fernando Ferraro, a former Costa Rican justice minister who sponsored the law, told VICE that it was designed to prevent illegal dealings, like sex slaves and Ch*ld sex workers. A 2016 US State Department report found that Ch*ld sex tourism was a "serious problem" in the country and that it remains a common destination for trafficking victims.

"Certainly the country has to protect its image as a tourist destination," Ferraro said. "But it's not just a matter of image. A lot of times criminal organizations, or human traffickers, are connected to the prostitution industry."

Strecker is an unabashed fan of the prostitution industry, but he claims that all he does is run a blog devoted to advising sex tourists like himself, not telling people to become sex tourists. Likely the most famous john on the internet, Strecker has whitening hair and tanned skin that has begun to sag from his once-defined arms. He's a former softball player and a diehard Yankees fan who freely quotes George Steinbrenner and has a tattoo of the Yankees logo on his right shoulder. In Costa Rica's La Reforma prison, where he's being detained, he's the lone American inmate and regularly wears muscle tees and sandals—about as gringo as gringo gets.

Strecker first made a name for himself on sex tourist forums and internet groups, where he detailed his experience touring the brothels and bars of Cuba and the Dominican Republic. He would later come to be known as "Cuba Dave" and would co-author a book called Cuba Dave's Guide to Sosua, Dominican Republic, which has since been banned from Amazon.



Once it became apparent that there was interest in the Cuba Dave brand, Strecker began documenting his sex-fueled travels through Costa Rica with suggestive blog posts, trip report videos, and photos with his girls. (He claims the women were always clothed and consenting when he photographed them.) He soon developed a following of horny male travelers by sharing his stories from the legal prostitution scene and imparted wisdom on "how not to fall in love" from his more than 40 trips to Costa Rica alone.

"Over the course of those years, I came to realize this is not real," he told VICE in a recent phone interview. "This is fantasy. This is entertainment. A 60-year-old man sleeping with 20-year-old women and believing that they really like them is crazy. So the majority of stories and videos were to explain that."

In Costa Rica, he focused his efforts mainly on an area of bars and hotels frequented by prostitutes in downtown San José known as "Gringo Gulch."

One 2010 post from his blog, which has been taken down since his arrest, read: "Miriam likes to have fun, and she is my girlfriend every day for an hour when I am in San Jose. She understands what I like, and I understand what she does. My advice is to remember what you are here for in Costa Rica, and don't question your (Costa Rican) girlfriends so much."



Strecker maintains his site was nothing more than a travel blog created to advise the single male tourist, but prosecutors say he was purposefully promoting the country to fellow gringos to come and take advantage of the legal pay-for-sex industry.

"The criminal case began after various publications were found on the internet made by the suspect in which he was apparently inviting other North Americans to visit Costa Rica, indicating that prostitution services in the country were easy to find," a spokesperson from the prosecutor's office told VICE via email.

Costa Rica—where prostitution is legal but pimping, or soliciting clients for a prostitute, is not—has long been considered one of Latin America's most popular destinations for sex tourists. Author and researcher Jacobo Schifter estimated in his book Love and Lust: American Men in Costa Rica that up to 10 percent of Costa Rica's tourists are there to have sex with prostitutes—which adds up to as many as 80,000 sex tourists per year.

Aware of that reputation, authorities are working to clean up that image and help the tourism-dependent economy come off more like Disneyland and less like Thailand.

In recent years, Costa Rican police have worked to break up organized trafficking groups and pimps who take advantage of sex migrants and Ch*ld sex workers. An annual report from the US State Department said that over the previous year, officials here conducted 25 raids where sex trafficking was suspected. The State Department noted that Costa Rican government was making considerable efforts to turn around its historically poor track record when it came to fighting trafficking.



While it's not clear that Strecker was involved in any such activities, prosecutors have requested that Strecker serve 12 years of jail time for three counts of violating the statute against promoting prostitution—one count each for his CubaDave.com website, Facebook page, and a YouTube video.

The prosecution is reportedly honing in on specific photos published on the pages, as well as certain passages from the blog posts. One such entry, which Strecker said prosecutors had harped on zealously during preliminary hearings, includes the sentence, "Your pleasures are only dictated by the size of your wallet."

Strecker's lawyer, Luis Diego Chacón, said he's confident that the case will be dismissed in the trial set to begin November, since the sex tourism law was meant to combat organized human-trafficking groups, not bloggers.

"This law wasn't intended for people who have a travel site," he told VICE. "If you looked at his website, you wouldn't have seen any language deemed inappropriate in his home country in the United States."

If the trial drags on, Chacón may try to convince the judges (Costa Rican trials are decided by three judges rather than a jury) that because the domain's server was located in the US, then it should be US laws that apply.

Since the Costa Rican law hinges on promotion, Strecker's defense will also try to argue that he was merely informing readers about the country's prostitution scene, not advertising it to them. Strecker claims that before he started his blog, he received hundreds of emails from travelers asking for advice on the best prostitute-friendly hotels and the safest neighborhoods for gringos. So rather than answer each one, he doled out his advice from his web page.

"Every single thing I'm being charged with is legal," he said. "They should actually be patting me on the back for warning some of the guys about this stuff."

Now, though, he's on the verge of a trial that could end with him being sentenced to more than a decade in prison. It's been that kind of dramatic fall for the pseudo celebrity, who said his yearlong stay in preventive prison has forced him to think about why he was targeted in the first place.

All he can come up with, he said, is that he's the piece at the center of a government "ploy" to send a message against sex tourists like him.

"This is a country where if you happen to say the wrong thing, you're going to end up paying for it," he said. "I really believe I'm just being made an example of."

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