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 Post subject: my first WU request
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:24 am 
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I know this has come up before, but would be interested in any takes someone can give me. I like the chick, care for her actually, and am fully aware of the poverty there. She says she is a "puta no mas," and she did seem like quite the newbie when I met her. Two months after first metting her it took some work to get her to come to my hotel. She was not around the Del Rey or key Largo. She may be telling the truth. Says she is not making enough at her part time job and her apt rent is overdue and cannot feed her K*ds. Not all that hard to believe in inflation ridden Costa Rica. I am tempted, though I thought I could never be. Sex and time with her was fantastic, different from the others. Scam or no? Will ad that I am not a wealthy man. I could sent $100 or so but would miss it. Her promise is a great time when I come back, and to have me over to her house to meet her K*ds, etc.


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Goodluck :roll: Just out of curiosity, whats her name, does she speak english?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:01 am 
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Sparkchaser69 wrote:
Goodluck :roll: Just out of curiosity, whats her name, does she speak english?
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What is the importance of the name? She is not a regular Del Rey hustler, impossible, am experienced enough to know. She speaks 10 words of English at the most.


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Take a chill pill bro. I went through the same thing my first visit to CR, true colors show rather quickly. I'm on your side, but have been there done that. Just a reality check. 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:54 am 
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Sparkchaser69 wrote:
Take a chill pill bro. I went through the same thing my first visit to CR, true colors show rather quickly. I'm on your side, but have been there done that. Just a reality check. 8)
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I do not know whether it is "true colors" or a legit need from an impoverished girl that never made it as, and has no intentions of again being a "puta" as she calls it. She says she only did it a couple of weeks and I never saw her in the Del Rey, just the Key Largo. Legit need, I am interested especially with K*ds involved. Money for excesses or even to take week off as a "puta" I am not interested at all. Guess without a crystal ball, cannot know for sure, but would be interested in reading any perspectives.

P.S. This girl is not a 10, would not even be considered a 7 by many. But had a great time together. And I have done 7 trips. Would never have considered this before.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:11 am 
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Guess without a crystal ball, cannot know for sure,

I've dealt with the same frustration. You will never know for sure. However, you do know she is "muy pobre." And you do know she is supporting at least one other person. Only way to find out what she is about is to send it once and then see how quickly the next request comes. And, if true to form, the dollar amount will probably increase on the next request.

Test the waters, but I can assure you that continued contact will lead to more requests in the future. Is she going to all of a sudden get a pay raise from her legit job? Probably not. So, all things remaining equal, she will end up in this same position next month. Unless of course, she goes out to any number of places to sell her most valuable asset.

Seems she had a string of good luck and her bambino didn't get sick this month, nor did her mother, father,uncle, aunt, cousin or dog. Next month things may change. And damn those refrigerators, microwaves and stoves seem to always have problems. Oh and did I mention that phones seem to get stolen on a regular basis?

Having said all that...send it to her once. Unless (as you have stated) that you will really miss it. Then you have to decide how important she is in your life.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:23 am 
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I posted this in another thread a few weeks ago:

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Since you are an experienced monger and a Costa Rica veteran I am going to accept that you have read this girl correctly and she is what you believe she is.

The frightening part of that is that is raises the very serious possibility that ALL chicas you meet view you in one light, the rich gringo meal ticket.



There seems to be a growing trend among chicas, working or non-working, that a well crafted story of a unforeseen monetary crisis will open up the cash faucet. This trend is of course fueled by its success rate and it is passed on from chica to chica in the Barrio.

All this leads me to believe that unlike past days the WU request is no longer a valid way to determine if the girl is a working or non working girl.

So you will just have to see how it plays out.

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Will ad that I am not a wealthy man. I could sent $100 or so but would miss it


I think that being said you have solved the problem. You need to very up forward with her and tell her you a man of modest means and simply can not afford to send the money even though you wish you could.

Her reaction will answer a lot of questions.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:29 am 
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Very well said.....

The Western Union request can be viewed in two ways.. The never ending BULLSH*T story that is so rediculously unbelievable that is sent to the never ending list of marks with hope of scoring a smalll percentage...

OR, the truly non working chica regardless of if she ever stepped foot int the Gulch and has never worked P4P..... Meet a gringo and they always have a fall back position.....

AS stated the WU request can no longer be construed as a working girls only request. Way to often we see the part two where we as "RICH GRINGOS" are asked to solve their problems by sending money.. what did they do before they met us, since they were not in the P4P... maybe that is when they turn that corner and jump to the other side of the fence.. interesting indeed

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:30 am 
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"Her promise is a great time when I come back" ....... "Puta no mas"
Other than that one observation, I totally agree with Dapanz,and trust me,he should know.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:31 am 
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Dap, Very well put. Just a tad more tact than I used. My apologies express. I have read "my story" over and over and over again on this board. I do feel genuine concern for all my girls, all in their 20's with K*ds. Most are supporting the majority of the family. I know this for a fact as I have met the family of more than one of them. I happen to be a GFE guy so this tends to lead to more involvment than usual. I prefer to tip them better upon leaving than send money. Not taking a shot, but most KL girls have definitely been in the rey. I don't condemn what your doing but dapanz said it better than me. There will be many emergencies upcoming. My experience only cost me about $800.00 total :oops:
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:50 am 
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Well we are exchanging e-mails and the request has dropped from $300 to 100. Depanz, I would not call myself a man of "modest means," semantics I suppose. I make well above the national average. $100 would far from kill me but I would notice it gone. Am more concerned about getting taken, plus Western Union tacks on an extra $22 to send. And I could easily lose track of this chica. Will be months before I can get down there again. Still would do it as a good deed though if I knew K*ds going hungry and homelessness were really on the line, and she is really dead set on not selling her snatch. Only because she treated me extra special, nothing for the future necessarily expected.


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For some reason they always start at $300. Must be written in the text book. Of course they will take what they can get. I must have gotten a volume discount at WU. LOL $100 is like a $15 charge. Anytime I have given, I have never "expected" anything in return. However, I always knew I would get...as much as I want, when I want and how I wanted it. Test the waters.

However, I sent a GREAT GFE $100 once. She, of course, asked for $300. As I posted before, after I sent the dough I never heard from her again. Haven't seen her in the DR, phone cut off etc.. I do have her cedula #. Love to find her again. Wish I had kept her pic I could have posted it but..at the time I had this thing called a wife. Anyway, you have my stamp of approval..send it. $100 in the scheme of things really is nothing. See what happens from there. Just remember what has been posted now and in the past.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:57 pm 
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Depanz,

You are right. Screw the $100. Will not make or break any of us I do not think, however, we are no longer going back and forth. She must have run out of internet cafe time. :wink: She was not answering my questions about her family and job, just saying, "will you send, ci or no." Could be problems with my translator. I`d have probably already been down to WU if I did not just get screwed out of a big chunk of change, am feeling on the tight side. She can wait a day. By the way, her perro has tapeworm, seriously, no joke. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:24 pm 
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The fact that she is no longer answering your questions about family and such,says to me that you should be suspitious. I have a good test if you want to do it. Tell her that you have a friend in SJ (a little white lie) who needs department store help.Tell her that you can set up a meeting with him about a job and that will solve her problems. I WILL BET YOU THAT WILL BE THE END OF YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH HER.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:28 pm 
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Here is my take, based on the info at hand and the odds, you are most likely being taken. That being said it's up to you if you want to send the money or not.

The one thing I will point out though is that while most of us (gringos) are tremendously swayed by poverty, most of the people there have been accustomed to it for generations. They have survived long before you ( and other gringo ATM's) arrived and they will survive long after you leave. In between I guess do what you think is right, but the bottom line is you'll will probably wind up where you were and they will probably wind up where they were, regardless of how much or how often you give them money.


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