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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:38 pm 
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Come on ... bash Spirit on the appropriate thread. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:01 pm 
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8 trips through Atl in last 15 months. 7 with global entry and no checked bag. Never took longer than 45 min from landing to customs to train to new terminal gate.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:13 pm 
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With Spirit you should have plenty of time to make your connecting flight coming down. They never leave on time. I had two guys fly yesterday from Atlanta here. Their connecting flight was delayed 5 hours in Lauderdale. The group here in San Jose trying to return to the states may have had a bit of a problem though, it was over five hours late leaving after having to wait on the plane. None of them made a connecting flight in Lauderdale. Spirit deals with this by refunding your connecting flight leg of the trip. They do not put you in a hotel. You are on standby as to when they can put you on their next plane to your destination. That can be days if their flights are sold out. That flight savings becomes a last minute purchase on another airline. Thing is it happens more frequently than not in flying with them. I'd take a bus down through central America before I'll ever get on another one of their planes. It is no secret they are rated the worst airline for customer service. Pay the extra and fly anyone else.

Pops, I have to disagree with you about Spirit. I have flown on Spirit about 20 trips through FLL to Medellin and San Jose. Only three flights of those approximately 40 were delayed more than a few minutes, many departed early. One delay was not Spirit's fault - there was another airline's plane disabled on the runway in MDE. When the other delayed flights arrived in FLL, one flight the passengers going to Orlando were transported on vans (it was late at night); the other one we were booked on the first flight leaving the next morning - confirmed seats, no standby. That was in January of this year. Maybe they used to put the people on standby, but that was not my experience. I did have a problem with them not paying for a hotel. The flight arrived in FLL an hour and 15 minutes before the connecting flight departed. There was no way to make that connection because of waiting for an empty gate, the slow baggage handling in FLL, and a long line at the TSA screening. They said because there was more than one hour between the flights, they would not provide any lodging or meals. I have Global Entry, but that doesn't help with getting your bags, or with TSA screening when flying Spirit.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:15 pm 
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You are absolutely right GDJ, the only thing that helps is to have enough time between connecting flights when arriving from overseas and dealing with all the immigration, customs, luggage, security and connection gate issues...all the shortcuts are marginal help; wouldn't want to depend on them to make my flight!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:33 pm 
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GoodDayJohn wrote:
Pops wrote:
With Spirit you should have plenty of time to make your connecting flight coming down. They never leave on time. I had two guys fly yesterday from Atlanta here. Their connecting flight was delayed 5 hours in Lauderdale. The group here in San Jose trying to return to the states may have had a bit of a problem though, it was over five hours late leaving after having to wait on the plane. None of them made a connecting flight in Lauderdale. Spirit deals with this by refunding your connecting flight leg of the trip. They do not put you in a hotel. You are on standby as to when they can put you on their next plane to your destination. That can be days if their flights are sold out. That flight savings becomes a last minute purchase on another airline. Thing is it happens more frequently than not in flying with them. I'd take a bus down through central America before I'll ever get on another one of their planes. It is no secret they are rated the worst airline for customer service. Pay the extra and fly anyone else.

Pops, I have to disagree with you about Spirit. I have flown on Spirit about 20 trips through FLL to Medellin and San Jose. Only three flights of those approximately 40 were delayed more than a few minutes, many departed early. One delay was not Spirit's fault - there was another airline's plane disabled on the runway in MDE. When the other delayed flights arrived in FLL, one flight the passengers going to Orlando were transported on vans (it was late at night); the other one we were booked on the first flight leaving the next morning - confirmed seats, no standby. That was in January of this year. Maybe they used to put the people on standby, but that was not my experience. I did have a problem with them not paying for a hotel. The flight arrived in FLL an hour and 15 minutes before the connecting flight departed. There was no way to make that connection because of waiting for an empty gate, the slow baggage handling in FLL, and a long line at the TSA screening. They said because there was more than one hour between the flights, they would not provide any lodging or meals. I have Global Entry, but that doesn't help with getting your bags, or with TSA screening when flying Spirit.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:43 pm 
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A few quick questions, you mention that you are planning to travel in November, is this over the Thanksgiving weekend, if so 90 minutes on any airline is not enough time, too many travelers during that period and more importantly too many inexperienced travelers who have no idea how the system works.

Are you planning to check luggage, you will lose time waiting for a bag.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:59 pm 
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Flabuck wrote:
A few quick questions, you mention that you are planning to travel in November, is this over the Thanksgiving weekend, if so 90 minutes on any airline is not enough time, too many travelers during that period and more importantly too many inexperienced travelers who have no idea how the system works.

Are you planning to check luggage, you will lose time waiting for a bag.


Flabuck, you are being kind. You are talking about totally CLUELESS travelers who clog the system.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:33 am 
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Flabuck wrote:
A few quick questions, you mention that you are planning to travel in November, is this over the Thanksgiving weekend, if so 90 minutes on any airline is not enough time, too many travelers during that period and more importantly too many inexperienced travelers who have no idea how the system works.

Are you planning to check luggage, you will lose time waiting for a bag.


To be honest , I haven't decided on the exact dates yet. Most likely 10 to 14 days in Nov.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:16 pm 
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I am looking at booking a flight from Minneapolis/St. Paul with Delta in November. There is a layover of an hour in Atlanta on the way down and on the return flight the scheduled layover is an hour and a half in Atlanta before the departure to MSP.

I kind of forgot how long is optimal for a layover because of clearing customs or getting the third degree from Customs, etc....can someone shed some light? Will I go through Customs in Atlanta on the way down before fly to San Jose? On the way back will it take too long in Atlanta? I just don't want to miss my flight in Atlanta coming or going. Thanks.

P.S. I moved back to the Midwest upon retirement and used to take the flight from SFO to San Jose...so just haven't experienced the stopover in the U.S. for quite awhile.


A coworker of mine recently connected thru Atlanta coming back from a trip abroad - he spent almost 1 hour waiting in customs in the US Citizen line. It then took him something like 25 minutes to get to his connecting gate. He almost missed his connecting flight with a two hour layover. 1.5 hours seems short coming back. 1 hour heading down is probably OK, but I still wouldn't risk missing a connecting flight down due to a small delay.

Even with global entry, I still prefer layovers in the 2.5-3 hour range at the "problem" airports (ATL, LAX, O'Hare etc.)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:13 pm 
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GringoJoe wrote:
Redfield10 wrote:
I am looking at booking a flight from Minneapolis/St. Paul with Delta in November. There is a layover of an hour in Atlanta on the way down and on the return flight the scheduled layover is an hour and a half in Atlanta before the departure to MSP.

I kind of forgot how long is optimal for a layover because of clearing customs or getting the third degree from Customs, etc....can someone shed some light? Will I go through Customs in Atlanta on the way down before fly to San Jose? On the way back will it take too long in Atlanta? I just don't want to miss my flight in Atlanta coming or going. Thanks.

P.S. I moved back to the Midwest upon retirement and used to take the flight from SFO to San Jose...so just haven't experienced the stopover in the U.S. for quite awhile.


A coworker of mine recently connected thru Atlanta coming back from a trip abroad - he spent almost 1 hour waiting in customs in the US Citizen line. It then took him something like 25 minutes to get to his connecting gate. He almost missed his connecting flight with a two hour layover. 1.5 hours seems short coming back. 1 hour heading down is probably OK, but I still wouldn't risk missing a connecting flight down due to a small delay.

Even with global entry, I still prefer layovers in the 2.5-3 hour range at the "problem" airports (ATL, LAX, O'Hare etc.)


I have since found a flight down with a 3 hour timeframe so I think I'm ok with that. However, that same flight only has an hour connect time on the way down (United - Minneapolis to Dallas connection to SJO)....is an hour enough time on the way down Nov. 15th in you guys' estimation?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:25 pm 
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No customs on way down so unless you have a flight delay and gates are close you should be fine. Usually if you book the entire trip at one time they are pretty confident you will make it. Coming back without global entry 1 hour is never a good idea. Imho


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:31 pm 
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If you arrive in Dallas on time or close to it, should be plenty of time. You don't have to deal with luggage or TSA security...just hop off your flight and go to the next gate.

Keep in mind that DFW airport has several terminals. You may have to take the skylink train if you arrive and depart from different terminals...still pretty quick transfer, but it takes 10-15 extra minutes, if your are quick and know what you're doing.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:02 pm 
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Redfield10 wrote:
GringoJoe wrote:
Redfield10 wrote:
I am looking at booking a flight from Minneapolis/St. Paul with Delta in November. There is a layover of an hour in Atlanta on the way down and on the return flight the scheduled layover is an hour and a half in Atlanta before the departure to MSP.

I kind of forgot how long is optimal for a layover because of clearing customs or getting the third degree from Customs, etc....can someone shed some light? Will I go through Customs in Atlanta on the way down before fly to San Jose? On the way back will it take too long in Atlanta? I just don't want to miss my flight in Atlanta coming or going. Thanks.

P.S. I moved back to the Midwest upon retirement and used to take the flight from SFO to San Jose...so just haven't experienced the stopover in the U.S. for quite awhile.


A coworker of mine recently connected thru Atlanta coming back from a trip abroad - he spent almost 1 hour waiting in customs in the US Citizen line. It then took him something like 25 minutes to get to his connecting gate. He almost missed his connecting flight with a two hour layover. 1.5 hours seems short coming back. 1 hour heading down is probably OK, but I still wouldn't risk missing a connecting flight down due to a small delay.

Even with global entry, I still prefer layovers in the 2.5-3 hour range at the "problem" airports (ATL, LAX, O'Hare etc.)


I have since found a flight down with a 3 hour timeframe so I think I'm ok with that. However, that same flight only has an hour connect time on the way down (United - Minneapolis to Dallas connection to SJO)....is an hour enough time on the way down Nov. 15th in you guys' estimation?


Too tight IMO and requires pretty much everything to go off without a hitch. A 30 min delay in MSP (not unusual) + a long ass taxi to the gate in Dallas + a long walk between terminals (it's a huge airport), and you're starting to push it. Especially risky if you're taking the last flight of the day out to SJO.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:30 pm 
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Remember too that Dallas is prone to thunderstorms that affect arrivals and departures at certain times of the year.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:27 am 
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Remember too that Dallas is prone to thunderstorms that affect arrivals and departures at certain times of the year.


Oh my...now I'm concerned again...geez...lol...wouldn't the airline be required to put me up if I miss that flight from Dallas? I suppose the flights the next day or whatever could also be full...hmm...


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