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 Post subject: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:23 pm 
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This hobby of ours can be fun if you work it the right way. It is not life and death serious. Make a mistake and it's only money and a new learning opportunity. I don't negotiate services. It kind of kills the mood. I'm not looking for a session that goes like a checklist of things to do. I want a session where she forgets that it is work and turns into a woman enjoying herself and giving back as much as she gets. It starts with the interview. Finding women here is no problem. The problem is having to deal with women that you don't want. You have to be real careful not to make eye contact with women that you are not interested in and still you get many that hit on you whether invited or not. Getting rid of them tactfully is a skill in itself. Many lines work. I like to use I'd love to go with you but I'm running short of money. Can we do this one for free? If she asks if I want company, an easy answer is not right now, maybe later. An easy one that works for me is when asked where do I live I tell them the truth, Heredia, about 20 minutes away. They have no desire to go that far from where they are working. Another one that works is tell them Hotel Presidente when they ask you where you are staying. Not chica friendly. They will counter with we can go to Hotel Asia. At which time you can say you really are tired and don't want company. Maybe another night.

For newbies who have never done this before, all that you have to do to get all the women you want here is to make eye contact and flirt with facial expressions for a few seconds. They come running. For the slow learners among them or the ones playing hard to get you may have to resort to a finger wave. It pays for you to be the one that initiates the get together. You are establishing control. If they approach you like they are doing you a favor it should set off alarms that this one is one you don't want. Spend enough time at the Del Rey and Cocal watching the hardcore pros and you will know what I mean about being able to spot this attitude. This ability to make eye contact and flirt is universal with women not just hookers. Do it in the states with a woman considerably younger than you and you will quickly learn if they find it offensive. Watching the women in a crowd you learn how to detect the available ones by watching their eyes. For young guys, learning this skill is life changing. It separates the timid guys from the ones filled with self confidence. Costa Rica gives guys who have never felt comfortable dealing with women the opportunity to practice all they want.

Once I find one that I consider interesting and make contact the interview begins. A little small talk can give a lot of information. Is she shy, does she speak English, what is her body language saying, where is she from, how old is she, does she seem to be fun to be around? If I get a good feel about her I usually ask her if she would like something to drink? What she drinks says a lot about her. Does she ask for local beer or imported, generic liquor or expensive name brand? All women have issues about their tits. They are either too small, too big, sag if natural, they are proud to show them off if they are silicon. A good indicator of attitude is how do they handle questions about their tits. If large and you think they are natural tell her you think they are silicon. If they are silicon ask if they feel natural. Either way the ones with good attitudes will be doing their best to prove to you one way or the other. They won't hesitate to let you feel or whip them out and show you. This gives you an idea if she is going to be fun or play by her rules. A really fantastic woman I met her once told me that if a man eats a lot of pineapple it makes his leche sweet. I ask them if this is true? How does she respond? I ask them if they like the taste of leche? Do they spit or swallow. By this time she knows I want a bbbj and I know if she is going to insist on covered. I ask them if they scream when they have an orgasm? I tell them many women have embarrassed me. I ask them what is their favorite toy? Do they like pornography? How often do they watch? What are their fantasies? Do they like sex with other women? Have they ever tried it? Do they like to be spanked? I tell them in crude Tico, "Que bueno chanchos, mami." You have nice pigs (ass). You have to set the mood right for this question. The next line is, "Esta chanchos comen guineo?" Do the pigs eat bananas? Does she do anal? By this time I have a good idea of what her attitude is going to be once we get to the room. Up until this time I haven't discussed money. Most of the time I don't. I know what is fair. If we go and spend two to four hours of time having a crazy relaxed fun session with her giving a good effort to please me I give $150. If she gets to the room and I feel that she is rushing or she comes out with a bunch of rules I don't expect, I finish in an hour and give $100. At the Cocal I ask how much. I generally negotiate down there to $100. If the session goes well I give a generous tip.

To each his own on how to pick them and get what you want from them. These things work for me. I learned this approach from watching experts at their craft. Anybody have suggestions on how to brush them off, pick them up, and get what you want from them?


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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:15 pm 
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Pops wrote:
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I think you are oversimplifying for newbies. 'Control' is largely a point of view. If we were 'in control', then we would always get what we wanted, when we wanted it, how we wanted it, and with whom we wanted it.

There definitely *IS* something about the aire of confidence that vets exude, and it is felt by everyone around. It changes the dynamic of negotiation to be sure, but let's not confuse that with 'control'.

That aire comes from experience, and cannot be expected from guys that are making their first visit or so.

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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:53 pm 
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Right BD and Pops...valid points in general. Control is very relative to the situation and chica, not just dependent on the monger' command and attitude. I know many girls that upon hearing about leche, pinapples, bananas and chanchos would walk away, thinking "gringo loco!" no matter how Rico suave you think you are being :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:58 pm 
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The first thing everyone needs to learn here is that it is always about the money and we control the money. Confidence is learned. The girls can spot a newbie as easy as we can spot a girl on her first night at the Del Rey. Most guys who come here are not experienced players. They will make mistakes. Some learn quicker than others. You have the power to control how the encounter goes. This is easier if you are confident. If not you can fake it. Reinvent yourself. What do you have to loose? Confidence is attitude. Take the attitude that you respect women but you aren't going to put up with any shit. You have what they want, they have what you want.

Put yourself in their position. If you come out and say I want you to suck my dick without a condom you put them in a position where they say yes, no or pay extra. If you work your way around it by asking if it tastes sweet they can say I don't know or yes. You still convey to them that you want a bbbj. How I interview them works for me. If they walk away, good. I want to determine their attitude. Every time I session with a woman I am looking for the perfect session. If not the ultimate at least better than my previous best experience. I don't get what I am looking for from a contract. I want a woman to loose herself in the moment. To revert to being an animal. In the end I please myself by concentrating on the feeling. I want to sense that my partner is doing this too. This is the GFE I seek. It is different than mechanical sex just going through the motions and faking it.

How do the rest of you go about getting rid of the ones you don't want, connecting with the ones you want and getting from them what you want.


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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:26 pm 
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Pops wrote:
The first thing everyone needs to learn here is that it is always about the money and we control the money. Confidence is learned. The girls can spot a newbie as easy as we can spot a girl on her first night at the Del Rey. Most guys who come here are not experienced players. They will make mistakes. Some learn quicker than others. You have the power to control how the encounter goes. This is easier if you are confident. If not you can fake it. Reinvent yourself. What do you have to loose? Confidence is attitude. Take the attitude that you respect women but you aren't going to put up with any shit. You have what they want, they have what you want.

Put yourself in their position. If you come out and say I want you to suck my dick without a condom you put them in a position where they say yes, no or pay extra. If you work your way around it by asking if it tastes sweet they can say I don't know or yes. You still convey to them that you want a bbbj. How I interview them works for me. If they walk away, good. I want to determine their attitude. Every time I session with a woman I am looking for the perfect session. If not the ultimate at least better than my previous best experience. I don't get what I am looking for from a contract. I want a woman to loose herself in the moment. To revert to being an animal. In the end I please myself by concentrating on the feeling. I want to sense that my partner is doing this too. This is the GFE I seek. It is different than mechanical sex just going through the motions and faking it.

How do the rest of you go about getting rid of the ones you don't want, connecting with the ones you want and getting from them what you want.

Agreed +100...might let a few good ones walk, but certainly get rid of most if not all the poor attitude ones!


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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:11 am 
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I have been reading extensively on this forum for a couple of years.. and I have to say, this is some of the most (if not the very best of) useful information I have come across on this site yet! It is so cool of Pops to watch and learn (from the masters) the way he did, and then for him to share such valuable information with us. And maybe more importantly, the constant drive that he has (and instills in me) to refine these "sorting techniques" to constantly achieve new "bars" of womanly goodness! THANKS POPS!!


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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
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One thing I say to the ladies; "I will make you feel better than any man has ever made you feel!!!!" At that point they are very interested and the usual response is, "How are you going to do that??" I respond with, "I cannot tell you right now, but your body will show me later."

Sweet Jesus, this is not brain surgery. Most importantly is just be yourself. If I do not have more confidence than a lady, anywhere in the world, working woman or not, I need a lot of work on myself. Women, by nature, want a strong man, and want to be lead. I am only one thought away from becoming that man, if I choose.

I went to a local KMP the other day and by the time the session was over the very hot, young (tome anyway) Korean was holding my hand and humming the wedding march, on the way out the door. I just made her laugh, and feel beautiful.

If I am not thinking the highest thought for myself, I need to change that thought immediately. What is in it for anyone to feel "less than"?

If I go in with the "deer-in-the-headlights" look, I am in for a good phucking, and I do not mean the physical kind.

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 Post subject: Re: Come on Lines
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Espero mi novio which means I'm waiting on my girlfriend is what I say to get away from the pushy chicas. It works very well.


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Hank wrote:
Espero mi novio which means I'm waiting on my girlfriend is what I say to get away from the pushy chicas. It works very well.
Maybe it works because the chica thinks you said you hope she is your boyfriend. Espero means I hope and novio is boyfriend, esperando means waiting and novia is girlfriend. I wonder how many strange looks you received if you really did say it your way.


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Tengo una cita con otra amiga.

Probably crap espanol but it has worked for me when trying to shake one off.

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GoodDayJohn wrote:
Hank wrote:
Espero mi novio which means I'm waiting on my girlfriend is what I say to get away from the pushy chicas. It works very well.
Maybe it works because the chica thinks you said you hope she is your boyfriend. Espero means I hope and novio is boyfriend, esperando means waiting and novia is girlfriend. I wonder how many strange looks you received if you really did say it your way.

Espero also is I wait.


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Zeos wrote:
GoodDayJohn wrote:
Hank wrote:
Espero mi novio which means I'm waiting on my girlfriend is what I say to get away from the pushy chicas. It works very well.
Maybe it works because the chica thinks you said you hope she is your boyfriend. Espero means I hope and novio is boyfriend, esperando means waiting and novia is girlfriend. I wonder how many strange looks you received if you really did say it your way.

Espero also is I wait.


Waiting for your boyfriend would be a good line though...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:15 pm 
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Telling the ladies no in the right manner is very tricky and takes finesse. You have to be aware of the chica network and how it works. If you tell a chica you are not interested and that you have no $ or are not in the mood for company that night then most of the gals in the place will know that within the hour. And if you take a girl a little while later you are a liar. So you have to shake her off in a way that says you are looking for companionship but not with her, but at the same time not in a way that puts her down or word will get out that you are an asshole.

I like to go with something like "I am looking for a specific girl that I saw here recently but not here at the moment and I am going to wait for her. But you are a very attractive young lady and it was pleasure meeting you, hopefully we can get together in the future...adios amiga"
If she does not walk immediately and tries to be helpful and asks "what is her name" or "what does she look like" then that is no problem...you don't know her name but can describe how she looks - go on to describe what in your mind is the chica of your dreams and be specific. And if that evening a girl of that description shows up, jump on that shit, it is your perfect girl. That is how I do it.

Excellent thread Pops, great advice throughout.

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Zeos wrote:
GoodDayJohn wrote:
Hank wrote:
Espero mi novio which means I'm waiting on my girlfriend is what I say to get away from the pushy chicas. It works very well.
Maybe it works because the chica thinks you said you hope she is your boyfriend. Espero means I hope and novio is boyfriend, esperando means waiting and novia is girlfriend. I wonder how many strange looks you received if you really did say it your way.

Espero also is I wait.

"Esperar" is both "to wait, to hope/wish".

"Yo espero por/para mi amigo/a." - I am waiting for my friend.

"Yo estoy esperando por/para mi amigo/a." - I am WAITING for my friend! (in English we use vocal stress wheras Spanish uses the Present Continous.)

"Yo espero que llegare pronto, mi amigo/a." - I hope that my friend arrives soon. ("llegare" and not "llegará" - both future tense, but the first is in the subjunctive which is appropriate following the "que" trigger.)

I'm still learning all this shit, and I want you guys to learn along with me. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:02 pm 
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What would you like to spend my $80 on? :lol:

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