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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:51 pm 
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I am not so sure he has an Internet team behind him or his previous operation...perhaps he was personally doing the web site and updates with whatever computer/web knowledge a part time carpenter's helper may have. Who knows?

In any case, someone with some technical ability is periodically updating his website, and getting increasingly belligerent towards his captors.

Hope this can be resolved quickly and the man is allowed to go home.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:15 am 
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... and the CR govt just keeps abusing him. ... I wonder why they aren't using those same internet publicity tactics that made Cuba Dave "famous" to expose his plight and what the CR govt has been doing.

Do you honestly believe what you wrote there? And do you honestly believe anyone but a few people on this board gives a rats ass about what happens to him? Where's his loyal following? All saying the same thing: "Man, he had that coming!".

By all means, contact your US Congressmen. Tell them that a poor, destitute purveyor of human trafficing is not being treated fairly by US laws in a foreign country, and that in this election year you want your congressman to publicly come out in full support of CD and his antics.

Send me the Youtube link.

The question is: is he being treated fairly, according to CR law. His attorney is the only person that can address this question in court. Since none of us practice law in CR, and know even the basic facts of the case, why don't we just lock this thread and wait for some actual news to come out?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:14 pm 
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I have to agree with BD.

There is NO political person, Republican or Democrat or Independent going to publicly show any support for CD. If they did it would be political suicide to support anyone that frequents lady's of the night much less one that travel's to another country to indulge and brags about it to the world. And definitely not one that profits from his hobby.

There would be no support from gringos who pretend not to be interested in this hobby (hypocrites) and gringas that absolutely think it is disgusting that 40, 50, 60 and in some cases 70 year olds are with girls many many years their junior.

That is part of the problem is that we as a society are extremely judgemental and find what our neighbours are doing to be more interesting and loathe anyone that seems to be enjoying life as those that are fortunate enough to be in the position to enjoy ourselves in this otherwise mundane life that Americans seem to thrive.

These ladies choose this life some and probably most do out of necessity either way it is their choice. But what happens between two consenting adults is between them and should remain between them. It is wrong to put what occurs between two consenting adults out there for the world to read and in some cases see via photographs.

CD brought this on himself, according to some on this board he was repeatedly warned. He missed the signs that were slapping him right in the face while busy slapping his chest for his conquests probably to keep his ego inflated.

Now, unfortunately he is paying a very steep price. The loss of liberty is about as extreme as you can get. This may very well kill him. Something tells me if he survives this he will stay within the confines of the United States where we are guaranteed our constitutional rights that we do not enjoy anywhere else in the world.

Like I said previously, Costa Rica is what it is due to their laws. Laws that allow these types of activities probably because some of the lawmakers indulge themselves. That is why they have hotels that you pull directly into a garage and don't get out until the door closes. Privacy. Surely they don't want anyone to spoil what they have. Especially not a "rich" gringo.

So in closing, it is terrible what has been occurring to CD for over six months now but it is understandable looking at it from ticos point of view.

This should be a lesson to all of us, if we absolutely feel the need to discuss what occurs in private and can't keep it private for whatever reason stay off the internet and only share with your most trusted inner circle.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:46 pm 
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BashfulDwarf wrote:
CaptainCohiba wrote:
... and the CR govt just keeps abusing him. ... I wonder why they aren't using those same internet publicity tactics that made Cuba Dave "famous" to expose his plight and what the CR govt has been doing.

Do you honestly believe what you wrote there?


Yes I do. Yanking an internet blogger at the airport as he is returning home, throwing him in jail without any formal charges, and then keeping him there for extended periods between each hearing where a prosecution has nothing and then asked for more time for another hearing and the charade keeps repeating itself. Yes, I would call that abuse. If not physical, certainly mental. Imagine if that was you in there, and your hopes keep getting built up with each hearing you will be sent free and then a prosecution without the goods keeps extending time for another hearing? Yes, it's their system and their rules, and yes CD may be polarizing, but doesn't mean it's the best way to go about it.

And CD is not a accused of being a "purveyor of sexual trafficking." Why would you even bring that up? Based on that logic, you are saying you and all of us on this board are "purveyors of sex trafficking." You know there is a large chasm between that and enjoying the company of ladies of the night who choose their profession. Hopefully you were making an attempt to be facetious.

The whole point of my post was that blowing up his plight on the internet the same way he garnered his "brand of Cuba Dave" to shed light and become a black eye to CR's tourism marketing machine, may give him the juice he needs to get out. Negative PR to a country sensitive about its PR could make detaining CD more trouble than what it is worth.

"Lock the thread," who made you the arbiter of what threads should be locked? Hell, the CD saga has garnered more views and comments on CRT than any other of recent threads put together. And probably by a few years even. Like the other poster said, "if you don't like the thread, don't read it." And yes, most post here looking for the news or updates.

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CaptainCohiba wrote:
...you are saying you and all of us on this board are "purveyors of sex trafficking." You know there is a large chasm between that and enjoying the company of ladies of the night who choose their profession. Hopefully you were making an attempt to be facetious. ..

No I wasn't. The Obama Administration has made the blanket statement that they consider all female prostitutes to be trafficing victims.

Do you not wonder at all why CD can't get any assistance from the consulate? It's because of the 'prostitution' thing. In their eyes he's not worth their help. Now, at least CR is following their own laws. So if you really want to search for 'abuse', then go after the consulate there and ask them why they aren't helping a citizen detained?

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BashfulDwarf wrote:
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...you are saying you and all of us on this board are "purveyors of sex trafficking." You know there is a large chasm between that and enjoying the company of ladies of the night who choose their profession. Hopefully you were making an attempt to be facetious. ..

No I wasn't. The Obama Administration has made the blanket statement that they consider all female prostitutes to be trafficing victims.

Do you not wonder at all why CD can't get any assistance from the consulate? It's because of the 'prostitution' thing. In their eyes he's not worth their help. Now, at least CR is following their own laws. So if you really want to search for 'abuse', then go after the consulate there and ask them why they aren't helping a citizen detained?


BD - Can you give me a source for the "blanket statement"? Just curious.

Concerning Cuba Dave and his lack of freedom. Once you enter a foreign country you are subject to its laws and it legal system. CD is probably being treated like many Costa Rica nationals. Being a US citizen doesn't mean the laws of the country you are visiting go away.

Is his incarceration fair, just, deserved? That's a matter or subjective opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:28 pm 
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On its face, the President’s speech appears to reflect a real understanding of what trafficking is—a situation in which force, fraud, or coercion at work create a climate of fear and keep enslaved and in dangerous working conditions out of fear rather than as a voluntary decision. Obama also gave detailed examples of instances where men and boys are most frequently victims of trafficking. This is powerful, since most of U.S. rhetoric on trafficking has focused on sex work and women, including erroneously, voluntary sex work; trafficking of men and boys was almost completely absent from the rhetoric of President Bush, for example. Obama also specifically addressed the horrors experienced by Ch*ld soldiers, an issue that has not yet caught the public’s imagination as a key concern in the fight against human trafficking. We are hopeful this speech suggests a welcome change in the scope of U.S. anti-trafficking efforts. - See more at: http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/ ... yQKcm.dpuf

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:43 pm 
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I think the key word in CR's law is" PROMOTING", sit and think about it, was he promoting sex tourism?
Sorry no sympathy, after his his stop in Fla, he should have received a clue, just ask some of the people on the board about his photo hijinks, shit, even most people would have have got it. Large ego involved, not withstanding his love for him self on videos splattered all over the web. He pissed off the wrong people.
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BD - Can you give me a source for the "blanket statement"? Just curious.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/forei ... rafficking

snippet: Trafficking in persons can occur in both lawful and illicit industries or markets, including in brothels, massage parlors, street prostitution, hotel services, hospitality, agriculture, manufacturing, janitorial services, construction, health and elder care, and domestic service, among others.

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No I wasn't. The Obama Administration has made the blanket statement that they consider all female prostitutes to be trafficing victims.


Sorry, maybe I am just dense, but I don't get it. Please explain precisely how you gleaned this from the site and snippet you posted? I see they mention how trafficking CAN occur in prostitution but don't see the "ALL". What am I missing?

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No I wasn't. The Obama Administration has made the blanket statement that they consider all female prostitutes to be trafficing victims.


Sorry, maybe I am just dense, but I don't get it. Please explain precisely how you gleaned this from the site and snippet you posted? I see they mention how trafficking CAN occur in prostitution but don't see the "ALL". What am I missing?

In a press conference about the passage the comment was made that all women working as prostitutes were considered victims by the Administration. When pressed about whether it also applied to male prostitutes, there was no comment made.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a 'snippet' like that on Youtube?

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Sorry again for my density BD. You were asked to provide confirmation. You have yet to provide any link or "snippet" that has the word "ALL" in it . Just asking that you provide that to back up your assertion. Can you do that? For the third time. Please?

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Sorry again for my density BD. You were asked to provide confirmation. You have yet to provide any link or "snippet" that has the word "ALL" in it . Just asking that you provide that to back up your assertion. Can you do that? For the third time. Please?

No PR, I do not have proof to back up my statement. Again, it was a visual presentation in press conference by Luis CdeBaca in 2010 or 2011. After he made the statement, he was asked during open questions if his statement applied to male prostitutes, where he said something that amounted to "no comment".

I have searched Youtube but cannot find the press conference video. I found the document, http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/142979.pdf, but it is his comments in public that I need.

I have spent over an hour listening to separate youtube drivel by this guy, and I am calling it quits. It was an official press conference, and not one of the ad hoc videos he gave. He has 'a' seal behind him, but I honestly do not recall which seal or much more than that. A fellow monger showed it to me in the Morazan Hotel in 2014. No more can I say.

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BashfulDwarf wrote:
Phoenix Rising wrote:
Sorry again for my density BD. You were asked to provide confirmation. You have yet to provide any link or "snippet" that has the word "ALL" in it . Just asking that you provide that to back up your assertion. Can you do that? For the third time. Please?

No PR, I do not have proof to back up my statement. Again, it was a visual presentation in press conference by Luis CdeBaca in 2010 or 2011. After he made the statement, he was asked during open questions if his statement applied to male prostitutes, where he said something that amounted to "no comment".

I have searched Youtube but cannot find the press conference video. I found the document, http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/142979.pdf, but it is his comments in public that I need.

I have spent over an hour listening to separate youtube drivel by this guy, and I am calling it quits. It was an official press conference, and not one of the ad hoc videos he gave. He has 'a' seal behind him, but I honestly do not recall which seal or much more than that. A fellow monger showed it to me in the Morazan Hotel in 2014. No more can I say.



I was the one who asked - time to let it go. Either it was at hand or it wasn't. It wasn't no big deal.


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