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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:42 pm 
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What anyone pays or charges is their business. Value is not based on what is cheapest. I have been with women who charged cien that were worth $10. I have been with women who charged $40 who were worth $200. Costa Rica is still a fantastic place to have fun. It is not as cheap as it once was but compare it to Vegas, Miami, San Francisco as places to party and you still get off with a bargain. The Del Rey was for a long time the center of play for pay for tourists in Costa Rica. Things change. Women are where you find them. You just have to know where to look. I have no interest in seeking out non pros. I want to pay for it. You pay for it one way or the other. Yes, trying to talk the bartender into a discrete romp is a challenge. It takes more effort than it is worth to me. Everyone has a price. I have a price. My virgin ass can be bought but not cheaply. As we say, we pay for them to leave. I don't want to own it, just rent it for a while.

Sex to me is a very personal thing. I want to have the person I am with give me her best effort. I don't want a go through the motions mechanical experience. If I just want to get off, Manuella and a little porno are just as satisfying as dropping cien and I never feel that I am being robbed when I'm with her. As much as I like Manuella there are times when I feel the need to treat myself to a thick juicy steak. If you have ever had Costa Rican steak you know it may look good and taste and be as tough as an old shoe. It all comes down to the chef.

Everyone mongers differently according to their needs. There is no right or wrong way. It is very similar for me to my other pastimes, hunting and fishing. When I hunt and fish the time spent looking is just as important as the culmination. This year I shot the biggest deer I ever bagged. It was special. It didn't detract from the other hundred I have shot in the past. They were all special. The time I spent hunting and fishing was never wasted. I always got to experience and learn from nature. It is not the same bagging an animal that has been penned up on a game preserve as it is packing high into the Rockies in search of deer and elk. There are plenty of women in San Jose that rival anything to be found anywhere. You have to know where to look. That doesn't mean they will be cheap. Tango India, and some modeling services offer women off the chart in looks but they are use to drawing top dollar. I have seen women in mps that rival any of them in looks. I have experienced women in mps that were better performers than any of them. My two all time top performers were mp encounters. San Jose will always have mps. They are not here for the tourists. They are here for the locals. Most of the strip clubs exist for the locals. The Del Rey, Sportsman's and Cocal are for tourists. Tell girls at the Cocal that you live in Costa Rica and half of them will walk away.

Mongering is a way of life. It is not settling for ordinary women, ordinary sex. It is seeking the best. Many do not have the courage to take this step. The Sportsman's, Rey and Cocal bore me. I have seen the menu too many times but I have never found anything interesting sitting at home on the couch. Other venues offer adventure and new faces. This is the allure of MDE, the Dominican Republic, Thailand. The King is old and tired. HE is not dead.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:49 pm 
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Pops wrote:
Mongering is a way of life. It is not settling for ordinary women, ordinary sex. It is seeking the best. Many do not have the courage to take this step. The Sportsman's, Rey and Cocal bore me.


Pops NAILED IT! I also find the Sportsmens, Del Rey, and Cocal absolutely Bereft of all talent. You really have to get out there and explore. Costa Rica is far too jaded, as a mongering destination, to just count on the old tried-and-true venues. The Del Rey and the Sportsmens are washed up. The Cocal is about one more season from being on the way out.


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And... Although I hate to say this about the Sportsmens... one of my favorite venues in Costa Rica... here's why this is the way that it is...

I'll use the example of Carnival Cruise Lines... Every time that you board a Carnival Cruise Lines Ship, there is a Marimba Band playing, and all of the employees just look and act like they are in full-on party mode.

However... Every time that you walk into the Sportsmens, or Cocal, or the Del Rey, all of the Bartenders and other employees look like... "Jesus! Another day at work! I just can't wait to go home!" Bill and his brother, Danny, at the Sportsmens Lodge, look like the "Walking Dead" every time that they come into the bar. They stare at their print-outs of the football games, and then they walk around the bar like zombies, making sure that the right games are on the right TVs. It's painful to watch them do it. Whatever joy they originally had in the business has definitely been sucked out of them... and that's just Sad!


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And... Although I hate to say this about the Sportsmens... one of my favorite venues in Costa Rica... here's why this is the way that it is...

I'll use the example of Carnival Cruise Lines... Every time that you board a Carnival Cruise Lines Ship, there is a Marimba Band playing, and all of the employees just look and act like they are in full-on party mode.

However... Every time that you walk into the Sportsmens, or Cocal, or the Del Rey, all of the Bartenders and other employees look like... "Jesus! Another day at work! I just can't wait to go home!" Bill and his brother, Danny, at the Sportsmens Lodge, look like the "Walking Dead" every time that they come into the bar. They stare at their print-outs of the football games, and then they walk around the bar like zombies, making sure that the right games are on the right TVs. It's painful to watch them do it. Whatever joy they originally had in the business has definitely been sucked out of them... and that's just Sad!

This is not the way I experience the SL. Bill and Danny are always in good spirits when I see them. Seldom am I presented with a bartender that doesn't want to be there, though I will admit the YMMV when dealing with anyone.

I also find that overall, the HDR has suffered far more in talent loss than the SL, IMHO. The last chica I hooked up with from the SL was (without doubt) the most beautiful woman I have ever seen (let alone BEEN with). Now that she has returned to Nicaragua (and supposedly out of the business), I keep in touch and hope to visit her soon ... (wishful thinking Bash ... wishful thinking)!

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Of course, we all see things with our own eyes. To me, the Sportsmens just seems Dead, compared to the way that it was 5 years ago. And that's not intended to be a bash against Bill or Danny, who are two of the finest people that I have ever met. It's just that every time that I see them, the "Pizazz" that used to be there has just disappeared.

I know that it's tough to keep that going 24 hours per day, for 20 years straight. Some people can do it, and some can't.

I know that this will make me sound like some crotchety old 90-year-old saying "Lemme tell you how it was back in the good ol' days, my boy!" But it's true.

I knew Bill over 12 years ago, before the modern wing ever opened, and back when the "Fab 5" were dancing on top of the bar every night. This was long before Papa Bill and Danny ever showed up. The Sportsmens was a full-on party back then, although it was not the Del Rey. It was, and still is, more like a Gentlemen's Clubhouse. I'm just waxing nostalgic about those days.


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I also find that overall, the HDR has suffered far more in talent loss than the SL. The last chica I hooked up with from the SL was (without doubt) the most beautiful woman I have ever seen (let alone BEEN with). Now that she has returned to Nicaragua (and supposedly out of the business), I keep in touch and hope to visit her soon ... (wishful thinking Bash ... wishful thinking)!


She was all mine until you stole her from me!! :lol: Definitely a very pretty lady, a wonderful woman, and a very good session.

The SL is the only place I have ever stayed in CR. Were there more hot women five years or more ago in CR, yes certainly. It would be hard to duplicate the times in Zona Blue with Pamela, Karen, Christina, and others, that were off the charts.

If I only traveled for the pooosey, I would never leave home. At my local KMP Mama-san has stocked the place with exceptional looking ladies, with fantastic bodies. The sex is also off the charts. I was with one on Sunday that would blow CR up if she walked into a venue there. Petite, very pretty, and loved sex.

Bill is one of the nicest, and most cordial hosts I have ever had the chance of meeting. His brother has also always been a good guy, along with his father. I have always gotten excellent service from the ladies tending bar. It could be the drinks, and pastries that I ply them with. :shock:

If I was into trying to find the hottest ladies, giving quality sessions I would not go to CR. The ladies in MDE are much hotter, give better services, and there are thousands of them everywhere.

While I can get better services, from better looking women in MDE, and at home, I still really enjoy my time in CR. It quite well could be that at my advanced age (68) that pooosey is not the be-all, end-all, that it once was. Getting out of my rut, and into a different culture is a great vacation. Anything else is just gravy.

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Sex is getting cheaper as I get older. Not that I pay less per session. I pay more. The urge to party has gone from several times a day in my twenties, to a couple times a week in my mid sixties. Any more than that and it seems too much like work. In my twenties, I'd be pleased in about 10 minutes. I was a sprinter. I'm more into marathons now. I figure that the effort I put into each session with a twenty year old adds a week or two to my life. It seems to be working for Papa Bill. My role model. I'm trying to live to be at least a hundred.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:29 pm 
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If I only traveled for the pooosey, I would never leave home. At my local KMP Mama-san has stocked the place with exceptional looking ladies, with fantastic bodies. The sex is also off the charts. I was with one on Sunday that would blow CR up if she walked into a venue there. Petite, very pretty, and loved sex.

Bill is one of the nicest, and most cordial hosts I have ever had the chance of meeting. His brother has also always been a good guy, along with his father. I have always gotten excellent service from the ladies tending bar. It could be the drinks, and pastries that I ply them with. :shock:



I can dig all of that! From my personal viewpoint, if I was Really only after the Poontang, I would be in Brazil. For me, personally, Brasilianas outclass Ticas and Paisas times Ten!

But there is that draw of Costa Rica... That lifestyle that just feels like: If a huge rock fell on your head, you would just say, "Ahhh... It didn't hurt that bad... Gimme another Rum and Coke!"

Bill is one of the most genuine, nicest people that I have ever met. But it's tough for a guy who is almost as old as my father's young friend to keep up that "Party Atmosphere" every day, of every year, for over a decade.

By the way... I bring down the treaties to the girls too... so you can blame me for Karolita's love handles.


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I'm getting bad vibes, doth say history can repeat, who exactly could this newcomer be ? :roll: :roll:
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I'm getting bad vibes, doth say history can repeat, who exactly could this newcomer be ? :roll: :roll:
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It's very quiet at T***land/Speedyland. No posters except for that very successful travel agent. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I'm getting bad vibes, doth say history can repeat, who exactly could this newcomer be ? :roll: :roll:
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It's very quiet at T***land/Speedyland. No posters except for that very successful travel agent. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You might be right, but paranoia abounds.

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Dead since 2008..


Yeap. That's about when the Sucks Club started. 7 years ago.

But everyone's on their personal journey, and like the man in Plato's The Cave, if you don't know what you are missing, you aren't missing it.

Bashful, welcome to the Club 8) :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:46 pm 
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I'm getting bad vibes, doth say history can repeat, who exactly could this newcomer be ? :roll: :roll:
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It's very quiet at T***land/Speedyland. No posters except for that very successful travel agent.



I don't know what you mean by the repeating history quip... but the "Newcomer" is a broke-ass former airline employee who is now living on an airline pension and U.S. Social Security income that adds up to about $2200 per month.

But if you're talking about Speedy on T*******.com, I think that I know the guy. If it's who I think it is, he's a coked-up, anal-retentive, Rain-Man kind of dude. All of the airline tech guys know him, and we all hate him. He's kind of an asshole, but he does know his shit.

He is actually a very successful travel agent, although he prefers to be called a "Travel Concierge", or some shit like that. I know that his client list includes some very significant high rollers.

I used to read Speedy's publications and George Hobica's publications, religiously. Those two guys have their fingers squarely on the pulse of the airline industry.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:18 am 
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Yeap. That's about when the Sucks Club started. 7 years ago.

But everyone's on their personal journey, and like the man in Plato's The Cave, if you don't know what you are missing, you aren't missing it.

Bashful, welcome to the Club 8) :lol:

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Hah Hah! (and by that, I mean Genuine Laughter)

I have been lurking on this board, CRT, for years, but I just started posting about 2 days ago. I have read all of the stuff about the Costa Rica Sucks Club. My impression of the situation is that Costa Rica is suffering from the exact same thing that every other tourist destination in the world suffers from. Indifference.

Costa Rica is a victim of its own success, as I have told many of the hotel owners and managers that I have met. Costa Rica is so used to guys coming down from the USA and just offering up their money, that the vendors expect it. In my job with the airlines, I ran into this same issue, all of the time. Nobody cares about the initial price of a ticket... they just want to know how much you're going to cater to them, after they have bought the ticket.


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And the beat goes on :shock: :shock: :shock: Et Tu Scrodum :shock: 8) 8)
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And the beat goes on :shock: :shock: :shock: Et Tu Scrodum :shock: 8) 8)
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Exactamundo!


Here's an odd little Costa Rica-specific nugget of information that I personally came up with about one year ago, prior to my retirement...

We had already begun charging for checked bags on international flights.

I proposed that we should begin posting fares that were $20 higher than the lowest fares, on flights that departed the USA on Sunday- Thursday or returned to the USA on Saturday-Monday.

Why?

Because that's when the the tourists travel, and tourists are very careful about not checking bags when it reduces their costs. The $20 increase offset the regular checked-bag charge.


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