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Who do you want to win the Worls Series this year?
LA Dodgers 29%  29%  [ 7 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:50 pm 
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Well IMO the whole Posey thing was bullshit and he was out of position
And because the injury was so bad baseball got pressured to change the rules
IF this play causes yet another change then it will be due once again to the injury and not the intent
Utley said he had no idea what way the K*D was facing and went in hard like all players are taught from jump
He did go down late and no question didn't want that throw going to first w the tying run on third in a big game
I like baseball just the way it is and think a rule change is a joke
As far as the whole out/safe thing that was subjective and the ruling was he would have stood up and been on second if he hadn't been incorrectly ruled out.
Not a perfect situation but as a Dodger fan ill take it.


As a Dodger fan if Cory Seager was injured on a similar play I would be very upset and disappointed. However saying that I do not believe that Utley was trying to injure Ruben Tejada. I would presume that only Utley really knows this for sure. Chase Utley a 12 year veteran 2nd baseman in MLB has been on the other side of these kind of slides and I would think he would be trying only to break up the double play.

I think this says it best from a Dodger blogger Houton Mitchell LA Times....
"Was it a clean play? To me, a dirty play is when someone is intentionally trying to hurt someone. Utley was not trying to hurt Tejada, he was trying to break up the double play. I think it was a hard slide, and a late slide because the play was slow-developing. Daniel Murphy didn't get much on the throw to Tejada, leaving him exposed. Another reason I don't think it was dirty: You usually don't try to play dirty by slamming the side of your face into a guy's knee".

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:01 pm 
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^ and i would hope Seager would have the common sense to know he time was up
the feed to Tejada was late and you can clearly see he knows whats coming but chose to plant and try to throw the ball
btw it is also obvious that its Utleys FACE that causes the injury so intent to injure has to be out the door don't you think?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:52 am 
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Too bad the Mets won't be getting their revenge on Utley unless the series goes 5 games.

No matter your opinión on the play. Joe Torre's opinión is the one that mattered.

Thinking someone is going to pay with a clean hard slide or a brush back pitch on Seager or Kendrick before this series is over.
(Self policing)

Makes for an interesting side story and more television ratings. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:59 am 
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He's appealing it as he should
This is at best selective punishment
Isn't it the east coast that always talks about playing hard nosed ball?
phucking hypocrites in NY

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Personal thoughts on the play.

Hard nosed baseball play you see multiple times a season. Only time it becomes an issue is when someone gets hurt.

Injuries have and always will be a part of the game. Did Utley (always a tough player who has been on the other side of those type of hits and dealt with injuries of his own) have any intention of hurting Tejada ? I believe no. Tejada put himself in a very awkward position trying to make a highlight reel play and paid the price.

Was he slide a little late and off the bag. Absolutely. But again nothing that hasn't happened multiple times in this game.

Be curious what Torre has to say publicly after the appeal hearing.




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^100% agree

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LAdiablo wrote:
As far as the whole out/safe thing that was subjective and the ruling was he would have stood up and been on second if he hadn't been incorrectly ruled out.
Not a perfect situation but as a Dodger fan ill take it.




Not a Dodger fan as you know.. (Just hate the Mets more :lol: )

You bring up an interesting point no one is talking about that has been bothering me..

Taking a closer look at this play in question. Mattingly comes out and appeals that Tejada is not on the bag and wins. Why did Terry Collins not do one of two things.

1) Appeal that Utley never touched the bag and/or
2) Before the next pitch is throw, Pitcher steps off, throws to second, appealing Utley never touched the bag .. Should be out correct ?

Collins never did, Announcers explanation was vague and confusing at best..Haven't heard anyone else talk about it.. Am I missing something ??


Agree completely with your points on rule changes..


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 am 
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i think the biggest issue is that there really is no precedent w the advent of instant replay
who is to say what happens next after its ruled a player was incorrectly called out/safe?
if that ump makes no call at all i think most people would assume Utley touches second instead of jumping up and running for the dugout
so since the original call was wrong the umps are left to speculate what happens next
and you're right Collins should have challenged it but in the post game he stated he agreed w the call...
my guess is that after this the guessing part will be taken out of the umps hands and a more defined rule will be enacted
i think most hardcore bb fans are hoping the nancy pants don't make another Posey rule to lessen the dangers in the middle of the diamond since its a pretty intense and beautiful part of the game
i hate the new catcher rules and as i stated earlier Posey was out of position and thus deserves a lot of the responsibility for his injury
i think Tejada deserves a lot of the responsibility as well
he absolutely no question knew that the runner was bearing down on him and with his back to the runner decided to plant and spin/throw
not exactly a smart choice and he paid a heavy price for it
people who say Utley intentionally injured his leg w his face are just pissed and i understand it if i am Met fan
my hope is everyone can take a chill pill and not start looking at changing the rules around second base
maybe just eliminate the replay at second and go back to proximity?

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Wow the Cubs are bombing the hell out of the Cards :lol:

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Go Dodgers too. :lol:


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donniedouchebag leaves anderson out to get shelled for 6 phucking runs, nice job you pos
and in another of his brainstorms starts jimmy ho hum rollins who proceeds to hold the ball and lose a runner at first in the second inning setting up a huge inning
seriously the guy took two steps patted his glove and...safe. nice to have a vet like that around
especially w an electric rookie like seager watching from the bench :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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donniedouchebag leaves anderson out to get shelled for 6 phucking runs, nice job you pos
and in another of his brainstorms starts jimmy ho hum rollins who proceeds to hold the ball and lose a runner at first in the second inning setting up a huge inning
seriously the guy took two steps patted his glove and...safe. nice to have a vet like that around
especially w an electric rookie like seager watching from the bench :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Was just commenting to PR on both those points...

Anderson was getting hammered (before D'arnaud's bomb) Get him out of there..

Jimmy Rollins over Corey Seager :?: :?: , Rollins has 2 k's in 2 at bats :lol: :lol: .. Great job Donnie.. :roll:


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I'm telling you the only silver lining in the whole thing, should we lose, will be that clown has to be gone
oh and pederson would have caught both of those drives to center but i can't blame douchey for going w a guy that can actually make contact w a baseball FML

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All that can be said at this point if Go Clayton tomorrow !!!

and Hopefully Zack Thursday


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not optimistic at all about this team doing much of anything
attorney asked me to go see my morning jacket at hollywood bowl and if we somehow win tomorrow ill watch thursday

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