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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:18 pm 
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He's a piece of shit!

Does he deserve 4 years in a Costa Rican prison?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:58 pm 
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BashfulDwarf wrote:
OK!

He's a piece of shit!

Does he deserve 4 years in a Costa Rican prison?

No, not for being a manipulative, narcissistic, unscrupulous jerk....now, if he messed with under aged girls, and that's what the OIJ has on him, then he can rot in jail. But no one has hinted or suggested that's the case :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:28 pm 
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BashfulDwarf wrote:
OK!

He's a piece of shit!

Does he deserve 4 years in a Costa Rican prison?


hmmm, I was there b4 during and after all the crap went down with the raids, the "handicap violations", etc etc. I watched the owner of ZB go from happy go lucky to always concerned.

I would ask the girl that got her picture posted on the world wide internet for all to see what he deserves.

This is not our country. Whatever prejudice you may have about it, it is their country to rule how they choose.

I have lived here for 9+ years now. I made it my business to learn the language, the customs and the laws.
I have gone from being tolerated to being liked (or at least not being disliked) here.

This country or no country may want their affairs secretly recorded and blasted all over the net. Why is that so complicated to understand ? I understand it.

CD knew the score. He put himself here and he is dealing with the consequences.

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Been watching and listening to all the back and forth for 5 pages on the thread and multiple other threads. Not quite sure why people are questioning Costa Rica laws. Need to remember we are NOT in the USA.

Completely agree with icantstayaway's assessment. I started traveling to CR in 2005. Over the years I have heard of many chicas complaining about pics posted by cd as well as others. CD was not the only one so blatantly lying to the girls that pics are for my private collection and won't be posted on the Internet. He was just so blatant about it he raised the radar of the authorities

We all play around with the girls. Some have the class and discretion to understand the parameters of the game and stay under the radar. Then there are others like this guy, a liar and overall scumbag.

Only thing that can be said is to echo Blue Coyote.

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I saw this article, not sure if it was posted. I was hoping they would have let him out by now and just ban him from the country. Yes, it is their laws and we are guest and under CR's rules. But really, jail for a blogger?


http://www.ticotimes.net/2015/09/23/cub ... ourism-law

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Guys, It wasn't just that he was posting photos and info on his websites, but when he and Dan Caro began to use Facebook and other social media to drive traffic to their websites (including CRT) that's when it quickly became just toooo much.

Can you imagine a older Costa Rican Senora who is in political power just beginning to learn about Facebook and Twitter blithely doing a search for "Costa Rica" and having CubaDave, CRBlush, TTicaland and CRT showing up at the top of her search list? This is what I hear was what did him in. Not sure who she was but can you futher imagine what she might say and do? This seems to further explain why the CR govt has just not let this quietly go away, but instead sought to tighten the screws on Cuba Dave. I worry they may expand it to others.

Costa Rica is a matriarcal society. The Senoras rule. The men try to keep Mama happy and she's not happy with our fellow loud mouth gringos telling everyone about prostitution in her homeland. Guess who wins this battle? :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:31 pm 
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[quote="BashfulDwarf"Does he deserve 4 years in a Costa Rican prison?[/quote]

Have to say that I immediately paused at the above. I want to say that he does not deserve four years. If what Bluecohote and Bashful Dwarf says are true and realizing that their opinions probably are the tip of the iceberg, I somewhat believe that he may deserve the four years.

How many of the girls' future did he change for the negative? How many of them experienced pain, both mentally and physically, because of his actions? Could go on but you get my opinion. With all the damages that he seems to have done, why wouldn't he need to pay a hefty price? To just kick him out of the country would result in him bragging about his experience and he would just move to another country and start again. Others have indicated that his ego requires him to be the center of attention.

It is just hard to feel bad for a guy who seems to have done so much damage to so many for so very long. As always, just my humble opinion.

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Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is you're stupid and make bad decisions.

Think that pretty much sums it up.

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Dave wrote:


I somewhat believe that he may deserve the four years.

How many of the girls' future did he change for the negative? How many of them experienced pain, both mentally and physically, because of his actions? Could go on but you get my opinion. With all the damages that he seems to have done, why wouldn't he need to pay a hefty price? To just kick him out of the country would result in him bragging about his experience and he would just move to another country and start again. Others have indicated that his ego requires him to be the center of attention.

It is just hard to feel bad for a guy who seems to have done so much damage to so many for so very long. As always, just my humble opinion.

Have a Great Day,

Dave


Dave & others, I am not trying to change anyone's opinion but just keep in mind a judge at sentencing does not take into account the factors you mention in your post just what law he violated and what is the appropriate sentence is for that offense. The powers that be in the CR legal system don't care that much about the ladies who had their pictures posted on CD's website they care about the image of CR which is what the law is intended to protect.

Also we know that the statute calls for a sentence of 4-8 years. We don't know how much plea bargaining comes into play in a situation like this. Does CD roll over and spill the beans on some of his business associates and if he does how much will it help him? We also don't know if the judge is permitted to go below the recommended sentence or not.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:57 pm 
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CaptainCohiba wrote:
http://www.ticotimes.net/2015/09/23/cuba-dave-may-face-jail-time-costa-ricas-relatively-unknown-sex-tourism-law

“Article 29 of the constitution also has its conditions,” he said. “It effectively says that in each investigated case, authorities must try to determine the effect the speech or writing in question has on the society.”

Interesting. Important to remember the many definitions of "Free Speech".

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:07 pm 
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BashfulDwarf wrote:
OK!

He's a piece of shit!

Does he deserve 4 years in a Costa Rican prison?


Your question is a philosophical one and I'm in agreement with yah. As scummy as CD was I don't think he deserves prison either. Doesn't matter what we think though. What does matter is the legal question...which a CR judge will decide. He has served up a shit sandwich that all of us have to eat for a while. He is lucky he didn't get whacked from the sounds of it. Granted he's not out of prison yet ;-). One thing that does bother me is the selective application of the law. As fuccked as it is...I'm hearing they are letting people out of jail after robberies and assaults after a few weeks or less...but hey I guess that is the risk you take as a foreigner in a country with entirely different culture and laws. I don't agree with it but I do have the choice on coming or not and taking that risk. As of now, I'm still coming down. At least I have a vastly improved knowledge of how things work legally compared to before CD's arrest.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:39 pm 
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This topic just wears me out ..... But if y'all are saying he does not deserve a prison sentence then what? A warning? That won't stop him. A fine? Maybe. But face it, this guy isn't too bright and if the legal system wants him to stop promoting CR as a sex destination, per the law, then he has to face the consequences. He was warned by friends and followers and his hubris overruled his better judgement, if such exists.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:32 am 
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Jackietrehorn wrote:
This topic just wears me out ..... But if y'all are saying he does not deserve a prison sentence then what? A warning? That won't stop him. A fine? Maybe. But face it, this guy isn't too bright and if the legal system wants him to stop promoting CR as a sex destination, per the law, then he has to face the consequences. He was warned by friends and followers and his hubris overruled his better judgement, if such exists.


I agree, the topic is growing wearisome but nevertheless... I don't agree with what CD did and I'm not trashing him or defending him, but do any of us have the morale high ground here? If they don't want their country known for sex tourism, then why not outlaw it and be done with it? If prostitution is "destroying" so many lives, why is it legal? If it is such a small part of the economy why have it at all? And if it's so horrible then why are we participating in it? Believe me, I'm not advocating making it illegal, but just pointing out the fallacy in the entire premise of the law. If this is the case are we all not equally guilty for participating in "exploiting" these vulnerable women?

To me I see nothing wrong with paying a service to a provider for a reasonable fee when both parties are consenting adults. Apparently that is okay to the powers in CR too. But CD destroyed lives because BF's and parents found out about what their adult Ch*ld was doing? I'm sure that didn't go over well, but is the problem, not the business itself? Or is it people finding out the business exists? I'm confused :roll:

My bigger point is that I see a lot of piling on the guy when we could all be, in theory, equally to blame for the business to exist and for lives to be "destroyed". Some could argue if CD got a girl in trouble and she left the business, he actually "saved" her from the wretches of this "terrible"lifestyle. I'm just playing devil's advocate here...the man is facing 4 years in prison, does anyone here think CD would last that long in prison? It essentially would be a death sentence. Hey I'm sure the guy has his faults maybe more than most, I'm pointing out we all do. I'm just surprised at the level of hostility toward the man given his situation and thought I would add a different perspective. As a fellow American and man who has similar proclivities for ladies, I do find sympathy for the man. Whoever can look in the mirror and find no fault in themselves, start casting those stones.. If any other guy was in trouble on this board I'd feel the same about them (given they're not doing something with minors or something similar. Then they should rot in hell). I'm not trying to stir the pot here and I know I'm in the minority opinion but thought I had to say something. No disrespect intended to my fellow travelers, just one newbie's opinion. My buck and a quarter's worth.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 am 
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Never met him, but hes been in jail long enough, they should just let him go and ban him from entering CR again. There point ( law) has been made and they got our attention now let the man go home.


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If they release CD and simply ban him from entering Costa Rica... I bet he starts showing up in Colombia. Who wants that?

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