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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:17 am 
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I think the real issue here is that this case will establish a precedent for the future . I am not a attorney but I did have a criminal attorney in US I am friends with take a quick look. His opinion is that it leaves an opening to shut down any place with media advertising that ALLOWS girls to work in their establishment. Could have a big impact on some of the more advertised places we all love!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:24 am 
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Wow! Pretty sobering...

However much of a jerk this guy has been and is, he doesn't derserve this unfair treatment for what he has allegedly done. If he did, everyone reading this post knows that it could be them in that same situation :? :shock:

What does it take to be in violation of this new law... :?:

Just a posting or membership in this forum could, and I said could, qualify!

Sad situation :cry:

How is he being treated unfairly?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:28 am 
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Costa Rica uses a different justice system than the US so you can't compare the 2 at all. CR is very inconsistent in enforcing its own laws. Ten people can read the same, new law (which this is) and you can get 10 different interpretations. So trying to predict what will happen to CD or other establishments here locally is impossible to do.

I know that if I owned an MP I would be very concerned about what could come next. Maybe nothing, but who knows?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:12 pm 
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bandon843 wrote:
Wow! Pretty sobering...

However much of a jerk this guy has been and is, he doesn't derserve this unfair treatment for what he has allegedly done. If he did, everyone reading this post knows that it could be them in that same situation :? :shock:

What does it take to be in violation of this new law... :?:

Just a posting or membership in this forum could, and I said could, qualify!

Sad situation :cry:

How is he being treated unfairly?

Being singled out when plenty others have done similar things...
Being deprived of liberty without bail because he is a foreigner (prision preventiva)
Being subjected to loose interpretation of new untested law
Being held for excercising free speech on legal activities in CR

Not defending the guy personally, I don't know him or care to...it is just a situation that can bite any of us and others in an open ended persecution.

As far as anyone knows, he is being detained for talking, publicizing legal activities with willing, consenting adults....

As for the pics of chicas...that is clearly asinine, no excuse! But there are other, fairer legal avenues to deal with that...or even a couple of goons to rough him up :?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:23 pm 
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could it mean that others that PROFIT from the images are also detained? sure who knows?

Or maintaining a place where prostitution is practiced like an MP, a bar, a hotel? These are the questions we should be asking ourselves.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:03 pm 
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bandon843 wrote:
Wow! Pretty sobering...

However much of a jerk this guy has been and is, he doesn't derserve this unfair treatment for what he has allegedly done. If he did, everyone reading this post knows that it could be them in that same situation :? :shock:

What does it take to be in violation of this new law... :?:

Just a posting or membership in this forum could, and I said could, qualify!

Sad situation :cry:


Wrong and wrong again. Not everyone here goes around bragging about their every exploit, let alone posting pictures all over the internet and profiting on it.
While its true that people who helped him or others like him (chris long and others) should be concerned about the next move it has zero to do with the average guy touring CR.
The law is pretty simple imo don't pimp the girls or make money off their asses
Does that leave some business models susceptible? Of course it does.
Stay off the radar and all is well just like you don't see the Tico mp's doing much advertising
But there should be no mistake that just like in DR he was the major irritant for CR
He brought business but essentially degraded the entirety of these countries to p4p
Now he has smeared his fecal matter all over the situation and is begging for help lmao
To interpret this as everyone could be this clown is totally false and is just fear mongering
If the guys associated w him have fled I would say thats probably not a bad idea
Lets take a dose of chill and just all bear witness to how this plays out
Btw if you truly believe what you just posted why would you be posting?
Delete all your content and start digging a hole to hide in :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:09 pm 
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Now that it has been established that CD was nabbed on his way out of the country, and not arriving at migracion, does anyone care to speculate HOW the OIJ found out he was at the airport on his way out???

Did the OIJ access his airline reservation with the help and collaboration of the airline?

Did the exit tax information, included in the tix, allow the OIJ to get the information?

Just how do you guys think they knew he would be at that airline counter that day for that flight?

Inquisitive minds want to know how far the long arm of the law reaches in this tropical paradise :shock: :D :D


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:13 pm 
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bandon843 wrote:
Being singled out when plenty others have done similar things...
Being deprived of liberty without bail because he is a foreigner (prision preventiva)
Being subjected to loose interpretation of new untested law
Being held for excercising free speech on legal activities in CR

We need to stop expecting US-based freedoms and liberties in a foreign country. If CR was treating him differently than other foreigners arrested for 'similar-grade' crimes, then you'd have a leg to stand on.

He was singled out, because there is no one else like him.

Every new law is untested until the first test. Being chosen to test it doesn't make for a charge of unfairness.

What does the term 'Free Speech" mean in CR? We have an amendment to the Constitution that mentions it, but does not define it, and we've been working at it for over 200 years. So if we can't actually define it by our standards, how can we expect another country to do so?

Not a single thing mentioned, done, or described has given me the feeling that they are trying to shut down the 'scene'. The authorities don't give a damn about the industry. They simply don't want some pasty-legged foreigner talking trash about their beautiful little country, no matter how much of it may be true.

When the DelRey is forced to close, I'll start to worry. Until then, it's business as usual.

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Now that it has been established that CD was nabbed on his way out of the country, and not arriving at migracion, does anyone care to speculate HOW the OIJ found out he was at the airport on his way out???

They were shadowing him. When it was apparent that he was leaving, they grabbed him. They could have easily asked his hotel when he was due to check out, and had a team in place to pick him up.

No need to seek conspiracy theory on this one. They said they'd been following him, so they knew when/where he was at all times.

Of course, did someone drop the dime on him that he was in town and available for seizure ...?

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bandon843 wrote:
Wow! Pretty sobering...

However much of a jerk this guy has been and is, he doesn't derserve this unfair treatment for what he has allegedly done. If he did, everyone reading this post knows that it could be them in that same situation :? :shock:

What does it take to be in violation of this new law... :?:

Just a posting or membership in this forum could, and I said could, qualify!

Sad situation :cry:


Wrong and wrong again. Not everyone here goes around bragging about their every exploit, let alone posting pictures all over the internet and profiting on it.
While its true that people who helped him or others like him (chris long and others) should be concerned about the next move it has zero to do with the average guy touring CR.
The law is pretty simple imo don't pimp the girls or make money off their asses
Does that leave some business models susceptible? Of course it does.
Stay off the radar and all is well just like you don't see the Tico mp's doing much advertising
But there should be no mistake that just like in DR he was the major irritant for CR
He brought business but essentially degraded the entirety of these countries to p4p
Now he has smeared his fecal matter all over the situation and is begging for help lmao
To interpret this as everyone could be this clown is totally false and is just fear mongering
If the guys associated w him have fled I would say thats probably not a bad idea
Lets take a dose of chill and just all bear witness to how this plays out
Btw if you truly believe what you just posted why would you be posting?
Delete all your content and start digging a hole to hide in :roll:


+1...exactly

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Hey BD…CD lived in Key West and spend lots of time in the caribbean…couldn't have been "pasty-legged" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good line though!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:04 pm 
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LAdiablo wrote:
bandon843 wrote:
Wow! Pretty sobering...

However much of a jerk this guy has been and is, he doesn't derserve this unfair treatment for what he has allegedly done. If he did, everyone reading this post knows that it could be them in that same situation :? :shock:

What does it take to be in violation of this new law... :?:

Just a posting or membership in this forum could, and I said could, qualify!

Sad situation :cry:


Wrong and wrong again. Not everyone here goes around bragging about their every exploit, let alone posting pictures all over the internet and profiting on it.
While its true that people who helped him or others like him (chris long and others) should be concerned about the next move it has zero to do with the average guy touring CR.
The law is pretty simple imo don't pimp the girls or make money off their asses
Does that leave some business models susceptible? Of course it does.
Stay off the radar and all is well just like you don't see the Tico mp's doing much advertising
But there should be no mistake that just like in DR he was the major irritant for CR
He brought business but essentially degraded the entirety of these countries to p4p
Now he has smeared his fecal matter all over the situation and is begging for help lmao
To interpret this as everyone could be this clown is totally false and is just fear mongering
If the guys associated w him have fled I would say thats probably not a bad idea
Lets take a dose of chill and just all bear witness to how this plays out
Btw if you truly believe what you just posted why would you be posting?
Delete all your content and start digging a hole to hide in :roll:

Agree that it shouldn't affect the average low key monger, but it is the principle of the matter that is bothersome. It could happen, and that is the problem.

Just like those HDR raids that have been discussed in the past…and those MP raids that have also been mentioned. It is all about intimidation and annoyance… Like someone else mentioned a few posts ago, if I were the owner, operator or employee of any of the fine establishments that service the "scene", I would be very uncomfortable. I think Bill has mentioned something along these lines in a couple of posts…Not to mentioned the fact that the value of all these businesses has just taken a hit, if they were to be sold in these times, with this level of uncertainty regarding the viability of their operation and promotion going forward. Uncertainty, nobody knows what will really happen…it is CR after all. We'll have to wait and see... :shock:

Remember Z2 was up for sale for $375K a few months ago?? So was Pirate Club... :roll: :roll: Wonder how that is going.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:44 pm 
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Could probably pick up both at a 50% CRT discount now....


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If there were ever a time that you would think this site is being monitored this would be the time
I suspect its why you are hearing less from the principals and more lawyer speak
I can't think that it helps matters to call them out by personal or business names either
Its not going to stop anyone from speculating but maybe we can give it a rest when talking about who it may or may not affect
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:40 pm 
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If there were ever a time that you would think this site is being monitored this would be the time
I suspect its why you are hearing less from the principals and more lawyer speak
I can't think that it helps matters to call them out by personal or business names either
Its not going to stop anyone from speculating but maybe we can give it a rest when talking about who it may or may not affect
just a thought


+1000000. Well stated. Thank you. I second that motion.

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