Puravidatransport wrote:
I do disagree with your second post. Girls here are like anyone else and are appreciative NOT looking at someone as being dumb or uninformed. To think these girls aren't insulted by low-ball offers is nuts. They are NOT waiting on some dumb newbie to come give them cien. Most have an inner sense of what they are worth and won't drop under that unless they are desperate for cash....or fat/ugly and can't do any better.
Why do you think girls think guys are clueless not generous? Why do you think a waitress getting a $100 tip thinks the person is 'off his rocker'? I see you putting what YOU might feel into other people. What I hear from girls is they appreciate those guys and would dump a 'cheap' one for almost anyone else given the chance. And why would you equate me hearing guys are 'cheap' to it being a common experience? Almost every time I hear about that, it is about guys trying to low-ball girls and the girl just walks off thinking what a dick the guy is...
I had a huge thread on a hooker's Sense of Self-Worth, and the board consensus is, I'm an idiot.
(But I agree with you on this point ... just don't tell the others ..shhhh)Don't mix low-balling and overpaying. I am talking about paying the ASKING PRICE ... which is NEITHER of these cases.
If you drive a client to Jaco and receive a $100
tip, you're appreciative, but be honest, you're wondering what's up with this guy. Now, you work for flat rate, but what if your principal clients actually paid you half of that rate, and it was a generally understood, public and talked-about thing. When someone comes along and doesn't challenge your flat rate ASKING PRICE, you would assume that he's either un-informed, or he feels that money grows on trees. Either way you're taking his business. But how would you talk about the guy? "Jeez, he paid me FULL price, AND tipped me CIEN!!!".
So, I am not saying that the girls do not appreciate receiving 'cien', and I am not saying that they deserve it / don't deserve it / etc ... what I am saying is they know what a typical session is for them, they ask for more, and when they get it, they accept, (are appreciative), and figure that they guy doesn't know about negotiation. On top of that, if he tips them over what is normal, then (yes he is being generous and saying thanks for a good session) but it is a story to be shared, and elicits giggles in the pack.
Anyway, bringing this back to the thread topic, newbies should be aware that prices vary (but do not fluctuate), and there is no 'harm' in negotiating with a provider. In fact, most expect it, and it can be used to set the tone and measure the attitudes of all participants. Pay what it is worth to you, tip them if you feel that the service warrants it, but be reasonable in what you tip. Look informed, act respectful, but be prepared to walk away and find another (and be respectful if they walk away from your offer). Above all, enjoy yourself.
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