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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:05 am 
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or why Cr/Medellin doesn't work anymore and if so, what does?????

Being bored w/Cr after 3 trips plus gen'l disappointment in chica quality(looks not service) I began looking at other locales. Medellin seems to be a wash economically, w/longer travel time, need for Spanish, not as easy but better looking girls. dated a Japaneese in college and lived w/ Hawaiian/Chinese/portguese for 3 yrs so I've had enough asains.

The TR by ghan got me thinking, ran numbers and I can go to Toronto and get much higher quality(and same number girls)/hotels/food,everything for $150 less than in CR. Vancover is a wash and I know there are more things i'd like to do there than in boring SJ.

Note: Looking for quality, not quantity, for me that means one really good girl/day, did the 2x per day MP thing-just a waste of time and money for me. Esp when I realized that when I was in my 20's would have never asked out any of the MP girls, or most indies in CR.Divorced @26 I dated 36 women in the next 30 months looking unsuccessfully for "miss right". Seems 2/3 gringas had either never had a K*D or had lost the weight and gotten back in shape compared to CR chicas who almost all have at least 5-8# or more+mushy tits, saggy skin, the result of pregnancy. Just no the same quality of girls I dated back then.

What makes it work for me is the transportation is $450-550 less, more than making for the higher girl prices. If I can do that w/shorter travel days( always a long exhausting ordeal getting up @ 3am or back home @ 2am)that wouldn't almost cripple me from sitting so long, better quality everthing else why should I even consider CR??


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:25 am 
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Carrying it out further, my unit cost is $400-500/pop(4-5 chicas in C, $2050} I could get some local stunners and even recognizable porn stars at $250-500/hr. using the afore mentioned budjest I could get 2 pron stars + 2 local college girl stunners and still have $400 let over. Plus driving 2hr to a hotel then running errands on the way back home just seems a whole easier than going anywhere? Plus it's likely a high end girl will see fewer clients and those she does won't be a bunch of nasty looking ticos or disgusting obese gringos.

The other part is more difficult to explain..I had fun in Reno, Vegas, Venezuela, and CR when the purpose of the trip was adventure w/p4p an added bonus. Things were in balance, but then "I lost my way" and came to CR strictly for the girls.(There's nothing in CR I haven't already seen somewhere else of better quality,i.e. grew up around Destin, and live near the BRP in NC).

We would never consider a relationship w/ SW here but we know it is VERY DIFFERENT in 3nd world countries an most girls are forced into it. Kinda hard to feel sympathy for an Eros girl getting $250-500/hr but when "in country" we see the poverty all around us( real poverty, not laziness here in the US that some try to pass off as poverty) one cannot help but feel compassion for them. Each of us knows that no matter how hard our own life may have been, we had at least 1000X the opportunities of these girls.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:33 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:43 am 
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Next thing ya know, Mr Adventure wants to play "Captain save ALL the hoes". Thinking of how much time wasted opining about some chica(s), the energy sapped, constant emotion turmoil, and just generally living in a hell of my own creation, I was tired of it. After each trip it seemed like I was going thru some kind of "herion like" withdrawal with physical along w/emotional distress. NO SIR I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!!

Being back 3 mos instead of 3 weeks has helped to deal w/this insanity. Had been trying to emotionally distance rom the novia met last Oct, knowing there's no future, every relationship has a time limit, plus she has no romantic feeling for me. The last week by accident I found her fb page, (they often use a made up name or friends/family ) as she is attractive, has a good personality and about 2o good looking latin studs as friends on her b page, somehow I think she will be able to go on...w/o me. Knowing this would be the best chance I'd get I canx my trip sched aug 23, and emailed all concerned wishing them well.

I DO NOT think I would have this prob in someplace OTHER than a 3nd world country,( ie no prob is US or CN.) This is something of value to me as it was a factor I never considered beore going to CR but became the biggest issue of all to deal with.

For the vets, what is wrong w/ my line of reasoning...what am I missing? also, anyone w/experience using EROS.com as I have only done p4p legally in the US, so it's a whole nother skillset.


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MrAdventure--It seems you need this article (and everybody here could benefit from it).: http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/ ... -your-buck
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:03 pm 
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The economic reality for me is there is NO correlation between the quality of the pu*sy and the price. It would be easier for us rational thinking gringos if there were. It seems to just be more irrational and emotional.

So, Mr. Adventure, if somewhere else is more emotionally gratifying for you and delivers to you more bang for your buck, then go for it. Have a good one! Buh Bye!

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I find too much irresistibleness in Costa Rica to give up on it. Sure, I'd like to try Medellin, AC, Pune, and all the other venues too (though I would not have thought of Toronto). But for me, I am looking for more ADV than P4P right now.

So, good on ya bud. Go have the adventure, and don't forget to post about it. There are many here who would like to know about the scene up there.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:23 pm 
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Toronto is an expensive city. There is no mongering scene there . Indies advertise on Backpages, majority of ******* agencies run by organize crime, strip joints like the U.S, can get arrested for communication for the.... Yeah, I'm having a ball here....NOT!


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Mr Adventure's theme song?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQlcDfco_G4 When your other options get bankrupted, Costa Rica and CRT will be here for you.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:44 pm 
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BashfulDwarf wrote:
I find too much irresistibleness in Costa Rica to give up on it. Sure, I'd like to try Medellin, AC, Pune, and all the other venues too (though I would not have thought of Toronto). But for me, I am looking for more ADV than P4P right now.

So, good on ya bud. Go have the adventure, and don't forget to post about it. There are many here who would like to know about the scene up there.


BD - CR has its good points, although depends on the guy (I've mentioned the advantages of CR for me and it has more to do with convenience). But if you want adventure, BD, I encourage you to go to Medellin (and don't stay at the Mansion, or whatever they are calling the place now). Medellin is a nice city with a nice climate. The Paisa chicas can be spectacular. You won't hear nearly as much English there, which adds to the adventure (you get by with whatever Spanish you know). And you can do interesting things like go to Mangos and watch the midgets dance....visit Pablo Esobar's grave, hit the metro cable and visit the barrios up on the mountains (but don't go too far away from the metro station!), etc. You can have great sex with hot chicas (much hotter, on average, than what you find in CR) at a reasonable (actually, relatively cheap) price, coupled with the adventure you seek.

I only wish I could spend more time back in Medellin.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:50 pm 
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For me, coming to CR, or MDE as well for that matter, is not just about lowest cost per fugg. There a few other factors that go into it. First, and most important, is seeing good friends. In the 9 years that I have been going, I have made a number of life-long friends and a ton of acquintances that I enjoy seeing when I'm in town. Since most of live so far away, we don't get to see each other often, other than in CR or when one of us is in the other's city. I know this point is meaningless to many, but to each his own. Secondly, it's a vacation. I know it doesn't feel like it since many don't ever leave San Jose. Hell, some don't even leave the Del Rey. Take a day trip or do some cool activity (ATV, zip lines, etc). But you get to eat different foods than you do at home (if you actually take advantage of the opportunity and don't eat at McD's or BK every day). And thirdly, for me, it gives me a chance to fly which I love. To me, there are not too many things better than flying, even if you are not at the controls.

If you are attracted to these girls, I would advise you to learn some Spanish and see if your sessions (and opinions) change. You'd be surprised what can happen if you can actually talk to them like you would a regular girl. If you are just not attracted to them, or it's just about dollars and cents, no sense in wasting any more time and money coming down any longer. Go find another place, or stay local like you mentioned.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:32 am 
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Attila wrote:
Toronto is an expensive city. There is no mongering scene there . Indies advertise on Backpages, majority of ******* agencies run by organize crime, strip joints like the U.S, can get arrested for communication for the.... Yeah, I'm having a ball here....NOT!


Well, this is almost totally incorrect. Yes, Toronto is expensive. There is a HUGE mongering scene here. Because it's so big, you really need to research. Strip joints are not like the US unless you go downtown, where they're tourist clip-joints. No one has been arrested under the communication for the purposes of prostitution....EVER. There are lots of super hot women in Toronto. Go to terb.ca & like on this board, read.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:23 am 
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El Ornitorrinco wrote:
Attila wrote:
Toronto is an expensive city. There is no mongering scene there . Indies advertise on Backpages, majority of ******* agencies run by organize crime, strip joints like the U.S, can get arrested for communication for the.... Yeah, I'm having a ball here....NOT!


Well, this is almost totally incorrect. Yes, Toronto is expensive. There is a HUGE mongering scene here. Because it's so big, you really need to research. Strip joints are not like the US unless you go downtown, where they're tourist clip-joints. No one has been arrested under the communication for the purposes of prostitution....EVER. There are lots of super hot women in Toronto. Go to terb.ca & like on this board, read.


El Ornitorrinco,i hope you,re right, from what i read there was a change in the law made by a Mackay-whoever that is to make the law like it here in the USA except Neveda.Also i had great experiences in Toronto relatively inexpensive from backpage $60-100 half hour,the same with Montreal when i lived across the border in NY.But then i heard if that change did happen it will get challenged in the supreme court like the present law last year?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:39 pm 
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Attila wrote:
Toronto is an expensive city. There is no mongering scene there . Indies advertise on Backpages, majority of ******* agencies run by organize crime, strip joints like the U.S, can get arrested for communication for the.... Yeah, I'm having a ball here....NOT!


wow... it's been a while since i saw a post that was this misinformed.

Toronto is a mecca for the hobby, as of right now it's virtually all 100% legal, and the quality-to-price ratio is outstanding. Travel costs aside, it's not the same bargain as CR or Colombia, but for someone who lives near the border in upstate NY it's heaven!

Unfortunately the laws are all about to change, but I've got enough independents, non-pros and FWB set aside to last me quite a few years. And I personally know a handful of agency owners who are some of the most genuinely nice and normal people I've ever met. Organized crime.... you're watching too many B-movies.

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