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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:08 am 
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Jazz, like you a lot but I'm gonna stand by what I posted - on this <these?> points we are just going to have to agree to disagree. :) :) :)

I'm just glad I'm as old as I am and as relatively comfortable and have no progeny. I don't expect to see the end-points of any of our failed policies and the intervening sh!t-storm will blow over my head without directly affecting me.
Hey, isn't this Website about Costa Rica? Well, then, talk about Costa Rica...we got Bros here from all over the world--why do they have to get inundated with this crap?

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Damn near everything has been illegal in the US at one time or another; what's the problem with these k!ds and their parents gaming the system for a good cause? Just because our own system is all ways woefully overloaded due to funding starvation due to taxation's mild existence in rich folks lives (and I'm especially including corporations, as they are legally considered persons)? When did compassion leave the planet? Most of these wretched refuse, these refugees settle in areas of the US that we stole/bludgeoned from Mexico--they are merely taking it back by passive means. No huge amount of respect fot Mr. Arias but I think he's hit on something here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:37 am 
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if you don't do something to decisively stop this it will only get worse
the coyotes are reaping a windfall advertising to and then taking the money from the families sending these K*ds
any thoughts about what happens to them on the way through mexico?
if anyone really cared about those K*ds even a little bit the first thing they would do is send back the first wave to stop any further poor decisions by desperate people
guaranteed these K*ds are being raped and exploited as part of the spoils for the unscrupulous coyotes and thieves out there "guiding" them to the border
not to mention starvation, heat and drowning hazards
how hard is that to figure out?

Written by a man who's never been truly desperate. That's one solution, piss-poor as it is. Would you say that that to those trying to escape the USSR or Nazi Germany? Or Cambodia under Pol Pot? Or many of the African countries wracked by historic strife? How about vetting the K*ds and providing safe transport to those 99% who qualify?

sure and you have mr government worker on a pension. gmafb you don't know me or what I've been through but by your determination i have too much and should just hand it over. i hope the city your pension comes from fails and you end up eating dirt. you think we have the capacity to bring all those families to the US?
we already send billions of dollars to every country in the world that needs it. and what happens? nothing because the leaders are thieves.
you want to do something about it then adopt a few in your home and i'll believe you actually care. comparing whats happening in central america to germany or cambodia is insipid and lame. there is no genocide taking place. you are a self righteous fool who probably never created a single thing in his life just delivered the mail.
at least Lenny comes by his liberal views honestly and can carry on a reasonable conversation here and in person. you have your open borders head up your ass.

Lord, don't I welcome a well-reasoned response and, Lord, isn't this sadly lacking. Mistaken in every particular and in over-all feeling. BTW, what's "gmafb" mean--I'm prolly one of them but inquiring minds want to know. Also BTW, yes, I was a Postal Worker but, no, I never delivered mail (I worked in a huge building my whole career). Also maybe you didn't read the memo but Postal workers haven't been Government workers since 1971 nor gotten what you think of as a pension (Defined Benefit) since 1984. My income comes from drawing down a 401-K-like fund, bulked up SS that I started drawing later than most and a modest Postal Service stipend. I made good choices and kept myself from hoggin' it from the goods/pleasures trough--same was available to everybody, even you.
I never mentioned and don't advocate "open borders"--we do need some monitoring and I welcome that. A bit more honesty about why they're so restrictive and who we wish to keep out out would be helpful, not least so the Border Patrol and others can concentrate on and get the funding for the real bad folks. A further BTW--it's not inapt to compare Cambodia where 1/3 of the population was slaughtered with a country living in terror and with the highest murder rate in the world--Guatemala.
As far as your life and its vexations--you made your bed, you lie in it. These folks we're discussing never had your chances, I do believe. Keep on rockin', Bro.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:05 am 
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And some wonder why we have a ban on any political discussion on the board :roll: :idea:

A bunch of hound dog, pu*sy loving mongers are not going to solve the issue!! Hell the politicians who create the problems cannot solve the problems so why would anyone here think we can :?: :idea: :roll:

Admin, this thread should be locked down!!

And lets get back to discussing chicas and pu*sy :wink: :P

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Perhaps one can appreciate your good intentions but when it comes to the protection of this country....we have to protect our borders. As an nation, we cannot accept just any people from from other countries illegally invading our property. Approximately, only 25 to 30 percent of those in recent months have been under 18 years of age. There have been thousands of gang and criminals along with suspect terrorists that have gone across the border. Can we only imagine the horror they will inflict upon our country.

Are you willing to pay for them. Do you want them to have government healthcare and EBT cards, drivers ID's without insurance and all the other programs that cost us citizens. I hope not.

Certainly, you know the reason behind this invasion of hundreds of illegals flooding our borders. I won't say which political party or President......Just not trying to be political.

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Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and no one's opinion is better than anyone else's.

This "Immigration Crisis" is not really a 'problem'. It is a part of the natural ebb and flow of our country's growth spurts. In a hundred years' time, this "crisis" won't even be mentioned in the history books.

Now ... the Ukranian issue, and the South China Sea issue *COULD* develop their own chapters in those history books. That is what you should be focusing on.

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i have nothing to justify to a megalomaniac bureaucrat pencil pusher mail carrier
i grew up poor, really poor and rarely ever saw my father but we persevered and invested and i can almost guarantee i pay more in taxes annually then you earned in a typical year jizzbro
living in california we pay over 10% in sales tax on top of suffocating property taxes and things like unsecured property taxes. know what that is? tax on anything you own and use in your business already. so i took money i paid taxes on, bought something i paid tax on and the fact that i use it in a business continue to pay taxes on.
most business i deal with is outside of california because no one wants to be here.
the franchise tax board here will hunt you down to the end of the earth for a dime and fine you a dollar for not paying it on time. no innocent until proven guilty here. pay it or go to jail.
i fight for my meals and every day i need to find a new job EACH DAY to pay my obligations and finish getting my K*D a reasonable education. no way i get that in a public school system that is now primarily hispanic non english speaking K*ds. so add another 20k a year to educate a k-12 K*D if you give a shit
and i'm the guy w the corporations and too much that jizz thinks should pony up more.
the LA area is awesome and a love the diversity here, wouldn't trade it for anything. i am accepted and work w all sorts of communities and am regularly work w thais, mexicans, salvadoreans, filipinos and yes guatemalans. in fact i have standing invitations to take escorted tours of many home towns because we talk and share stories of how these places are in terms of beauty and culture. and my guatemalan friends don't take about anything but how beautiful their country is and how we should go together.
these are my friends and we respect each other. but yeah i don't know shit about what it means to have nothing. i have heard every one of their stories and nearly 100% of them came here legally and resent the influx of ILLEGAL immigration coming to the states.
the city of LA is a great place to be but guaranteed there are plenty of latinos to go around. the thought that they are peacefully reclaiming their land by inundating the system w numbers and its ok is wrong. most are uneducated and the reason they come here in the first place is to have better opportunity than what they left. want to name a country in the world that is thriving under latino leadership?
if you don't have a balance you have mob rule and thats whats taking place right now. you guys that don't live in border states don't have a clue. you sit back and say the poor K*ds we need to be compassionate.
of course we do but where does it end? what about africa? syria? every other corner of the world where people have little to nothing. shall we just open up and take them? as much as i would like to think its possible its just not
and especially where i live the businesses and tax base are eroding like sand at the beach under the increase of tax pressure. but i know they have too much.
if you don't have a border you don't have a country. and the cache of being an american citizen is becoming a joke. like many of the businesses and people here i will cash out and leave in short order and thats a shame because i am one of those that builds things and employs people and pays shitloads of taxes.
but if there is nothing in it for my family and i whats the point?
plus you COMPLETELY ignore the fact that these K*ds are being exploited on their journey from central america through mexico. anyone who really CARED about these K*ds would want to stop that.
but keep on w your transparent uniformed bleeding heart agenda jizz.
you'd be meat if you really had to work to survive.
btw i think you'd have a few more friends if you didn't feel the need to state your opinion as irrefutable empirical fact. its just your phucking opinion no matter what you think you know mensa.

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so do I. What an awesome post! :D

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Guys, I apologize to those of you who got angry about the topic. My feeling is that any subject that I can't discuss among friends without one of us getting angry is one that we may have a personal problem dealing with or one that we really do not understand. Getting angry and attacking the other person only prevents our learning a new point of view, even if we will never agree. Seek first to understand before you seek to be understood. (7 Habits)

My intention was to point out that Oscar Arias, who certainly has more direct information about the problem than most of us, has a different perspective on the problem and is proposing different solutions than what is being considered in the US today. Also, I sought to draw a parallel between the underground economy that exists in the US because Latinos are not allowed to work legally and the one that exists in Costa Rica among expats because we are not allowed to work in the local economy. These decisions have economic costs (or benefits) that appear not to be considered by the policy makers in either country.

Please, let's have a vigorous discussion of the issues, but treat each other with the same courtesy we would if we were both interested in the same chica, and he got there first. :lol:

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i can have a conversation about anything Lenny and you and i have had brief ones on things we disagree about in the past without being disrespectful
i think the point of improving their own economies first is excellent. imagine if we were able to easily set up and employ people in SJ how quick things would change.
my only issue is when an individual speaks as an absolute authority on anything. unless its scientific fact its always a fluid situation with lots of sides to consider.
i don't believe anyone wants for others to suffer in this world and all thoughts looking to generate good will and prosperity for the world are valid.
lord knows what we are doing now by throwing money at everything isn't working. if it was a genuine desire on the part of these other countries to make their people better it would help. but thats the argument for why there will always be a third world. if the peoples lives improve then the money flow would stop and what corrupt thieving politician would want that?

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JazzboCR wrote:
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Damn near everything has been illegal in the US at one time or another; what's the problem with these k!ds and their parents gaming the system for a good cause? Just because our own system is all ways woefully overloaded due to funding starvation due to taxation's mild existence in rich folks lives (and I'm especially including corporations, as they are legally considered persons)? When did compassion leave the planet? Most of these wretched refuse, these refugees settle in areas of the US that we stole/bludgeoned from Mexico--they are merely taking it back by passive means. No huge amount of respect fot Mr. Arias but I think he's hit on something here.

respectfully Phuck you

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just saw this little nugget jizzy bo . certainly hope you can back this kind of talk up in person. i'll bump into you one of these days. phucking typical but SJ is a small world douchebag.
free session to the first actual brother that points him out to me.

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... but treat each other with the same courtesy we would if we were both interested in the same chica, and he got there first. :lol:

oh ... I've been bashing em on the head with a lead sock and skipping out with the chica before he hit the floor! :mrgreen: I suppose that makes me an asshole vulture again ... :twisted:

Yer spot-on Lenny. Politics and religion makes people hot under the collar. Ya gotta take a breath and think before you speak ... and that goes DOUBLE for a typed message. In some ways, it is unacceptable in a board post, because of the ample opportunities there are to THINK about what you are about to post.

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i have nothing to justify to a megalomaniac bureaucrat pencil pusher mail carrier

and yada-yada and...

btw i think you'd have a few more friends if you didn't feel the need to state your opinion as irrefutable empirical fact. its just your phucking opinion no matter what you think you know mensa.

Proverbs 4:7 seems appropriate: "With all thy getting, get wisdom and understanding" or perhaps:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/opini ... asure.html but in any case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f4CyQto-0E << for "heart", sing "stones". Ease up on the threats of physical violence against me (they may be actionable); O/W have a nice day.

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who's threatening physical violence here?
i just want to say hi after you call me a Ch*ld molester of young males jizz
but leave it to you to make it up and run and hide behind threats of attorneys
what a miserable piece of human fece you have shown yourself to be
you've got a big mouth and the ability to do an internet search, thats about it mailman
look forward to meeting you and buying you a drink
maybe getting you a bite to eat
i have some wisdom i'd like to discuss
yada yada yourself pinhead

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