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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:52 pm 
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If she see's u ass a no puss getting doofus who basically needs to be there to get action ...

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Real live genuine mongers really have it hard and sad in life....

dammit guys ... I know I haven't met you too yet, so explain how you know so much about me? :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:54 pm 
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JazzboCR wrote:
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Cujo's wrote:
If she see's u ass a no puss getting doofus who basically needs to be there to get action ...

CRGolfer wrote:
Real live genuine mongers really have it hard and sad in life....

dammit guys ... I know I haven't met you too yet, so explain how you know so much about me? :mrgreen:

Psychotherapizing wunderkid aka they've met your kind before.


umm Jazz ... yer gunna have PR all over you again if you don't have a point to at least some of these little postings. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:00 am 
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BD .. Too much thinkin'... Not enough drinkin'... :idea:

Instead of trying to figure out female latinas with a gringo male brain... Like you are trying to solve a computer problem... Learn spanish, flirt with chicas in their own language and observe them, make adjustments. Eventually you will gain cred and do better in the "eye ball test" and be more fuckable.. But be careful...the "floor" may collapse under your feet. :wink:

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If she see's u ass a no puss getting doofus who basically needs to be there to get action, then...well, I don't need to say as it's the most common scenario..
Anyway...Cujo


I guess Cujo's is speaking from personal experience relative to being viewed by the chica(s) as the "...doofus who basically needs to be there to get action...."?

This seeming reality is confusing because Cujo's is sexy and he knows it. He works out. or that's what he's posted about himself many a time over the past many years???? :arrow: 8) :P :P He's also posted many a time that he doesn't pay for it in Costa Rica; it's given to him for free because he's such a mack daddy catch (the jury is out on that one. There are rumors around the SL about certain individuals not paying for services rendered when payment time came, leaving several birds of the night annoyed, not to mention disappointed and now dirk dragging for the opportunity to "get even....". I dunno......just reporting raw intel from the ground......other's do the filtering and spinning....).

What's even more confusing is the reality if one is so sexy; knows it; works out and all; why isn't that same guy selling and pimping his own ass out as a gigolo making most excellent ducats in Monaco, Paris, NYC, or...heck....maybe even Miami instead of casting aspersions on an internet message board? I guess stranger things have happened. *shrug*

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.....Learn spanish, flirt with chicas in their own language and observe them, make adjustments. Eventually you will gain cred and do better in the "eye ball test" and be more fuckable.. But be careful...the "floor" may collapse under your feet. :wink:


Ya left out the fat wallet part (and WILLINGNESS to hand over gold to the chicas), PR. Accident? :P :P :P

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Phoenix Rising wrote:
BD .. Too much thinkin'... Not enough drinkin'... :idea:

Instead of trying to figure out female latinas with a gringo male brain... Like you are trying to solve a computer problem... Learn spanish, flirt with chicas in their own language and observe them, make adjustments. Eventually you will gain cred and do better in the "eye ball test" and be more fuckable.. But be careful...the "floor" may collapse under your feet. :wink:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: not trying to solve a 'problem' ... trying to learn 'the system'. Can't gain the upper hand if you don't know the cause-and-effect ratios. :mrgreen:

Remember, I am sitting at home with nothing to do ... so trying to figure these things out gives me more to do than simply tunneling or composing haiku... (both Dwarf pastimes).

And I am studying Spanish. Second class starts in two weeks. SO THERE! 8)

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Remember, I am sitting at home with nothing to do ... so trying to figure these things out gives me more to do than simply tunneling or composing haiku... (both Dwarf pastimes).

And I am studying Spanish. Second class starts in two weeks. SO THERE! 8)


Irrespective of what is posted, it's ALWAYS A CRAP SHOOT. There is NO WAY, repeat, NO WAY, to determine a "good session" before the session. "Fun" is something you know you've had AFTER you've had it. Same thing with a good root: can't be a guarantee until AFTER the deed. It is what it is. Rocket science it is not. :arrow:

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BashfulDwarf wrote:
Cujo's wrote:
If she see's u ass a no puss getting doofus who basically needs to be there to get action ...

CRGolfer wrote:
Real live genuine mongers really have it hard and sad in life....

dammit guys ... I know I haven't met you too yet, so explain how you know so much about me? :mrgreen:


I might have filled them in on you. :lol: I wish you would have had pix from the run in with the cops!!!! Now that is a good story!!!

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aw stevie..dont worry the offer still stands...I will pay (any) chica that kisses you (er, a real kiss) $50..easy money....still looking.

People have no context as to why you keep calling me sexy. Most of the frequent posters now have been on this board 10 minutes and probably don't get it. They wouldn't get that ur a train wreck mentally but most notably physically. So they don't get ur angst against me unless I told them ur always mad or hating cos my post stab u thru the heart indirectly..perhaps now they will understand ur retardation. If u don't have a sense how a session may go before it gets going, then well..ur S'1 ish..

outside of that..keep on keppin on.. :lol: 8)


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I might have filled them in on you. :lol: I wish you would have had pix from the run in with the cops!!!! Now that is a good story!!!

hell!! Which time!

I'm starting to think that they don't like me!! :roll:

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Most of the frequent posters now have been on this board 10 minutes and probably don't get it.


Just as you've only been on the planet for 10 minutes compared to the real heavy hitters around this message board (no....not Mucho Gutto) and really have no context for simple existence let alone the art of getting over. :!: :P

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They wouldn't get that ur a train wreck mentally but most notably physically.....now they will understand ur retardation.


Now there's a "personal attack" if every there was one. Shall I run to Mommy and have you spanked? And hatin' on the developmentally disabled using an ignorant, pejorative term like that? Son, that's just wrong but to be expected when one considers the source

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....If u don't have a sense how a session may go before it gets going, then well..ur S'1 ish...


All ANYONE can do is "hope" they're gonna achieve what they set out to (receive a "good session", and that's something that is unique and individual to each person) do and "hope" really ain't a strategy. Even the hottest babe on the face of the earth who has the hots for their mackdaddy boyfriend 24/7 has bad days (performance and elsewise), even if she's looking all cream in her jeans like.

Son, get some experience (many on the message board are well aware of your perfection of barebacking a culo, complete with nice and browned processed rice and beans; that kind of experience....well.....that's another matter), go into the big, bad world, get your hands a little dirty, keep working on the "skill set", and perhaps you'll find out what a real piece of ass is all about because it's most obvious you've never had one...... :!: :!: :!: :!: :P :lol: :lol: 8) :P :P :arrow:

(reference: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32248&p=365028&hilit=gaping#p365028 ). I would copy and paste the conversation, but since it's in the VIP section, I'm not sure if that's right and proper to put here for all to read. Join CRT and have a read....it's a quite a hoot....Ciaociao32001 was on a mighty fine roll..... Makes me wonder if that link "works" for non-CRT members. Curious minds?

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Someone pass the popcorn please..... :roll: :roll: :roll:

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we have wandered off track. So, to summarize what we are discussing:

HDR asking prices are supported by Peer Pressure (PP), as the chicas do not want to be seen as 'cheap putas', which is culturally a bad thing. But Bashful suggests that PP does not cause the refusal to negotiate (except for the newest of market entrants who don't know any better). Bashful cites minor personal experience and the myriad of postings about negotiations as support.

We know that the chicas operate a 'floor', or a lowest acceptable offer. This is *NOT* driven by a personal feeling of what they are 'worth', but instead it is a manifestation of immediate needs. Most chicas will disguise the 'floor' in hopes of making more cash per session. It is important for mongers to be able to identify the 'floor' (which translates to sex for the cheapest possible price).

There are many 'intangibles' associated with repeat sessions that take mongers out of the 'cheapest is best' mindset, and TEHO rules over this affect. It has no bearing on the discussion at hand.

Now, back to the 'perceived value' question. We have established that it has very little (if any) effect on the amount of money they insist on. However, we also know that there are different 'visual quality differences' in available chicas, and that individual mongers are willing to make different offers to different chicas. (This is a 'perceived value' on the mongers part, but not of interest here.)

I want to ask the experienced guys that 'know' chicas, about how this 'visual quality difference' affects individual chicas? Obviously, the hottest 'looking' ones know it, and (I would assume) it makes them raise the 'floor' and be tighter on a negotiable range. How do the other girls see themselves? And does it have any affect on negotiations?

Secondly, if a chica has a 'floor' (what she needs to make for an immediate need) and cannot negotiate that much, does she go home empty-handed, or does she accept what she can get? If she must accept less than her 'need', does she still 'perform' her best, or do we think this may change her into a clock-watcher or in any way make for a hurried session?

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Obviously, the hottest 'looking' ones know it, and (I would assume) it makes them raise the 'floor' and be tighter on a negotiable range. How do the other girls see themselves? And does it have any affect on negotiations?




They view themselves in the same way. Meaning if they aren't "clearly" hot, but still good looking. The perceived value usually happens in nano seconds. If she is a 6 or 7 and gets approached or talked to like a 10, or is easily able to butter you up simply by calling you handsome, then when its time to talk money she will know about what she can get. After attraction, its whoever clearly is wanted more, is who wins in those situations...forever and ever, amen.

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Trying to figure out the inner-workings in a chica's head by using quantum physics equations??? :shock: There are so many variables involved here, regardless if the chica's a "10" or a "1". It doesn't matter. There is no definitive answer to any of this! And trying to get a "concrete" answer is simply an exercise in futility. Hell, this thread might end up being similar to "Last Post Wins" thread! :roll:

Ya ever play Tic-Tac-Toe??? Things that make ya go hmmmm..... :roll:

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