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Give it up, and quit the double speak. You answered in the blind to a simple trap post of Greengo's about 2 hour day trips by bus to Quepos and $30 MA hotels, he knowing a newby would bite on one or the other of the absurd complete bullshit of travel and rates in MA, and you did.

But you say Hotel Psycho II just happened to be on the top of your head and you just happen to remember the published price which by the way was way over the $30 the thread was about? You actually remembered that? Or jumped into some travel book or site for a quote, neither knowing with the info, including you, that this place was a nut house?

Sorry. You know as much about MA as I know about Paris. And be advised for the future there are a bunch of guys on the board that know Quepos/MA and the rest of the beach and tourist towns quite well, or know guys that know it like their hometown. Careful on the quickie recommendations like you did with this one.

I don't want to be rude to a new guy who could be a great addition, a stated traveler of 31 years who posts he is reviewing as his employment high priced CR hotels that charge in the 3 figure daily rate range and who dines/critiques the best eateries in SJ. I have no reason to disbelieve that. Lucky guy. I'm jealous.

But, many many guys have fallen for a Greengo trap that he seldom follows up on. He hasn't here, and he won't. He's laughing at you.

Keep posting, we need guys with your kind of past experience and your future first hand CR experiences and posts, like your post yesterday about steak houses revue, will be a gold mine for guys. Sincerely.

What double speak?



It's true, I don't know the guy. I answered using only facts, including the answer to your question requesting a list of hotels. I don't feel trapped at all. Much like Peter Sellers, I simply respond to the questions with factual statements. "Does your doggy bite?" "No." "Ouch, I thought you said your doggy does not bite." "That is not my dog."



The hotel you are referring to did come to mind. I asked a team member travelling with me about it and he looked up a price on the internet for me. I didn't care if it was a nut house or not, as that was not part of the question. I do know M.A., and I sent no one to this hotel. I answered your question, a response to my statement, directly. It was not a response to any other statement in the thread. I answered your question exactly as it was asked:

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Q: "When you get time, please post a list of $30 dollar hotels in Manuel Antonio, it would be great info for the board. Thanks"

A: "3. Nature's Beachfront is showing their lowest rate at $45."

I do understand that might have been accidentally misread as: "This hotel is only $45, when it should be $145. It's the most awesome hotel I've ever stayed in, highly recommended." I mean, little mistakes like that can happen.
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Again, I did use a little judgment here as MY statement was hotels in the $30-$40 price range, not intended to be absolute. I also mentioned that hotels can be bargained down a bit, putting this hotel within that price range, in my judgment.

OK... I do in fact admit that, by your standards, I cannot make a list of "nice" $30 hotels. Nor $60 nor $100 nor $150 hotels in the M.A. area. I have no idea what constitutes the objective, factually provable definition of "nice", nor can I guarantee that any hotel has a $30, $60, $100, or $150 price. It might be off by a few pennies due to taxes, exchange rates, other fees, etc. Also, many consider a small tip necessary, and I can't account for that accurately. No one can make a list of any hotels with these criteria and prove it.



You have no idea how much I know about M.A. And I have no idea how much you know about Paris. I understand from your previous post that you speak for everyone here (nobody is really interested...) -- you don't have to re-insinuate it.

By the way, I can give you some good advice on visiting Paris if you ever feel the urge to visit. It's a vibrant place that is very keen on the arts and theatre.

There are also many other cool places to visit in Texas. (beginning to get my point about making assumptions and inserting your own words and interpretations?)



I never said I was employed, nor did ever state that part of what I do for work is critiquing eateries in SJ. Nor did I ever say that I have traveled for 31 years, nor did I ever say that I was a guy.

You are reading the words that I am writing, but inserting your own words, meanings and interpretations.



What trap? Maybe it was a trap, but I didn't fall into anything. I simply related factual, observed experiences. It seems to me that you are one whose goat this "Greengo" has gotten, by getting you heated up against a "guy ???" who simply says "point A to point B, in my experience is xxx hours" and "hotel XXX has a lowest published rate of $XX on their website."

Also if you scroll back a page or two there, professor, I didn't "bite" on a greengo post, you did. I "bit" on your response to that post.



Why? If everything I post is responded to with "your opinion is incorrect". "I like blue, it's a nice color, that's my opinion." "No, you don't like blue, that color sucks, your opinion is wrong." Or if I say I saw something (signs) and someone says "no you didn't." Or if I say I know prices between $30 and $40 and someone says "I need a list of all those $30 hotels (not what I said)." If someone says "I saw this, or I experienced that", my response is always "thanks for the information". If I don't know them or know they generally give out good info, then I trust and verify it. If I am suspicious for any reason, then I check it out on my own and verify it before I use it. If I know the person is full of shit most of the time, then I either ignore or I still might verify it before I use it. But I certainly don't say "That's impossible that you saw that, your opinion is wrong, there's no way that happened."

It's true that I am a newbie to CRT, a fact which I am starting to be grateful for. But I'm no newbie to M.A. and many other parts of Costa Rica. I have stated that there are places in M.A. that I do not frequent, but I am familiar with M.A.

Oh, now it is you had a "team member traveling with you" to do an internet check on the net about a CRT travel post about a $30 MA hotel with a pool. Please, that's alot different then your previous statement about how you recommended/suggested Psycho II "off the top of my head I rememered this place".

But OK, your "traveling team member" even tough you say you are not in the tourist biz, got directed to get an internet price for you that revealed was $15 dollars over the requested price in the post and without a requested swim pool. Bbut you went ahead and posted it on CRT anyway; and you say you know MA so that means you knew, like every ex-pat and cabbie in Quepos, that this place is an innacccesible nuthouse dump run by a wacko, and you still posted this as an alternative? And two days later after all of this has unfolded to the greatest of insults to the board you say you when you listed it as an alternative you "didn't care if it was a nuthouse or not?" That's your quote.

Really? With a straight face?

And you deny that you are in the travel biz even when you posted this: "For research for my clients, I generally am staying in the $150 and up range"; & I was busy leaving Jaco for a hotel recognizance in Tamarindo?

And you also posted it was an assumption on my part when I referred to you as a guy? I could care less and speak for myself as always except I'd like to know if I am reading a post from or responding to a female poster on a monger board.

Unusual.

Begin misinterpretation count...
1. I never asked him to check on a $30 M.A. hotel with a pool

I said I had prices on 3 places that I remembered off the top of my head. Where did I say I recommend or suggest anything? How is this different from what I said? I asked a team member "Yeh, that Nature's place is pretty cheap, check that price for me."



2. I never mentioned the "tourist biz"

I never said that I was not in the tourist biz. I did say that I was in the travel biz and that I never said that I was "employed".



3. You did not request a swim pool in your list

I did use some judgment here as my original statement was $30 - $40. And then you have basically been insinuating that I said there were tons of places that are right at $30.



4. If I know M.A., how does that "mean" that I know something that every ex-pat and cabbie in Quepos knows? Is there data that proves that every ex-pat and cabbie in Quepos knows a certain item of information? I rarely stop moving in Quepos, and don't know a whole lot about it or the people there.

Once again, I do realize that you are the spokesman for every ex-pat and cabbie in Quepos



that was not part of the request



5. No post in this thread ever mentioned anything about an alternative. To what?

alternative to what? there was a question for hotels at a price which I judged to be directed at my previous statement of price range, and I answered it.



Yes, you requested nothing about quality in your list, just to meet the price criteria that I described above. Asking a travel professional for a nice hotel for $30 is like asking a Ferrari dealer for the best car he has under $5000, and I treated it as such.



6. Never denied I was in the travel biz.

I never denied I was in the travel biz. I said that I never said that I was employed. Ask a 12-year old to explain this to you -- they'll get it. Once again you are reading words that are not there.

OK, OK, I can't bear it anymore, it's just too embarrassing to let this continue. I am in the travel biz, but I operate my own business and do contract work. I am not, and never have been, an "employee."

It's hilarious to read your gross misunderstanding of everything that I am posting, but that one was just to painful to let it continue.



7. It was an assumption. I never mentioned anything that indicated my sex.

OK, now that you have stated that you would like to know my sex, I will tell you that I am male. Ask a direct question, get a direct answer. I cannot read your mind.

Oh, well. That's the end of that. After a very simple statement of my actual observations and getting raked over the coals for it, I'm calling it off.

I also just spoke to a buddy in Sabana that is also in the travel biz, and he basically said: "Yeah, CRT has been going downhill for a long time, I haven't been on there in about a year."

I was basically like: "you couldn't have said something?"

And that little gremlin said: "you never asked."


So, I'm outta here. 3 days is enough. I got better things to do. Just wanted to let anyone who might care know that I won't be logging back on and won't see any posts or PM's.

Toodles.

you both seem to be enjoying the back and forth so have it
just both of you be here in the morning since imo you both bring unique views to the board
deal?

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Cut the sob story. If you got raked, you had it coming.

In reality, you got busted when you stuck your nose into Quepos which you proved you know next to nothing about other then drive times, certainly nothing about the hotel situation in M.A., and you finally realized you could not keep up with your line of bullshit, so you bailed. But you'll still read this.

Whomever you are, and your writing style is familiar and I am quite sure not just to me, you'll be back, not as Windjammer, but you'll be back as another newbie but more careful. You're probably barred or too embarrased to post under your original board name. Ringing any bells to anyone? Scuba calls guys like you a windsock or something like that. That's you Windjammer, another windsock that got busted.

Your 23 posts in the past two weeks since you signed on to CRT as a newbie showed an extraordinary, enormous amount of very, very detailed current knowledge and insight into CR but specifically into CRT peak interests in SJ and Jaco, and stuff that only a long time CRT guy (or a monger who has been hanging around the gulch for 10 years but didn't know about CRT ), would have any reasonable possibility of knowing or caring about, or looking into, or posting about, including stuff from way back.

Nobody has that much detailed info about our issues and our hotels, including your personal insights of how to correct what they are doing wrong, in your opinion, to best fit the monger game; your monger info dating to years in the past; and then suddenly joins CRT a few weeks ago and starts posting. I read your 23 posts, you know way too much about the where and the why and why nots about our hangs and our interests.

The nail in the coffin is when you said in a reply to me that you weren't involved in the travel biz, but you forgot that a week earlier on Saturday you posted:

"This I had to see -- travel is my business and this was going to be a major game-changer in Jaco. It did not take a travel professional to see that". This is when you were referring to the demise of the Beatle Bar, now a significant time ago.

Frankly, I don't think you're at all involved in the normal travel biz as you first said. None who are in the normal travel biz would have any interest in such detailed info and insights into our places like the old Zona Blue and the new Zona II, and the old HLH, and the newer Mona Lisa, and the rise and demise of the Beatle Bar, and rest of our buttons.

So "Who You Crappin? "

Appreciate very much your insight and I know you are straight but you are just purely guessing this is the same jerk.

You took a break from the board for 8 months, and he registers on this board 3 weeeks ago as Windjammer, a name unknown to you, but you recognize his goofiness as your semi-friend from whenever in the past? That's a longshot.

I think with a very high probability you got have the wrong jerk in mind. If you knew him way back when and vice versa, then he knew about CRT way back when.

And you claim everything he says is the truth? Really? That was sufficiently proven wrong. He didn't play me in the least as you say, I called him out after I was convinced he didn't know MA. You can read 5 examples in the thread where I pointed out he was full of shit including when he posted Psycho II was an option and then he compounded that when he said he didn't care if it was a "nut house".

Forget all that, he, whoever he is, convinced me he was a fraud when he said he goes to MA via Naranjito--it's a dead end at Londres and there are not 5 gringos a year driving past the shit road from Naranjito, excluding me. But this is the guy sailing around in the world in a schooner? If this is the same guy, which I don't think, he played you like a harp. He's travelling in schooner in international waters and worried about the Beatle Bar, ZonaBlue andII, ML? SL? C'mon.

I recognized the same wordsmithing as someone else who fortunately got banned but has always posted with windswock names and tries getting back with a new name. The same writing, same dodge and weave, same exact writing style with the inserts (which takes a little time to learn how to do, not 3 days of posts), the same continued indefensible bs until someone finally corners him, and when cornered the same ball busting attitude exhibited when caught. So my guess as to who Windjammer is as every bit as good as yours.

I haven't posted who I think it was but I have already rec'd 3 PM's from old timers hitting the nail on the head, but 1 guy with a different opinion. It's possible that there are two jerks of the same ilk, no question.

Regardless, neither of the ones we think is the idiot contributed anything but gross, gross misinformation,followed up by mind games and bullshit to make the thread a useless, mis-informing throw-a-way so it's not a great loss. In fact a blessing he (or both) are out of the picture, at least for now, but he'll be back.

Whomever it was, he was not new to posting on this board.

Glad you are posting again. Agree to disagree but not with any insult to you, sincerely and the best to you, a great poster.

had no idea shit got this deep

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Board integrity is a must. Srilm should have said what he knew but now only posts in his second post about Windjammer, specifically he knows Windjameer, sees him regularly, and who admits he knew Windjammer was using aliases on the board.

He also says he's been on Windjammer's 75 foot schooner (really, where and when? That port of call can be verified pretty easily); and Windjammer has houses all over CR in 5 different areas, but now so conveniently to support his bs story of coming from Naranjito to MA, now also has a house in shit hole Naranjito, a 2 tavern, no grocery store, dirt road and a soccer field poverty stricken pueblo of 200 people, but not in luxurious Manuel Antonio 8 miles away? Please.

Enuf said. Case closed

Srilm, I don't blame you for not wanting to post again, under your own board name, and I believe your assurance that Windjammer won't post again. My hunch is you are he.

Sometimes that's what it takes to keep the info true, unless you want the fake Windjammer and his ilk like you know who to post whatever nonsense they want which leads to the demise of this board. You think Windjammer had a 75 foot boat with houses in 5 cities in CR and one dump house to back up his bs story up to you.

When you suspect an obvious bullshitter and you know what you are talking about, call him on it. Then either you get proved wrong or the ridiculous, double speak, contrived gobligook explanations start, like here, including a guy who all of a sudden backs him up but says I knew he was posting under different names, but never complained, etc. That's what happened here.

Good guys on this board aren't going to hide in the woods.

So in your first post in this thread why didn't you say: I see this guy regularly as you later posted and I knew or highly suspected he was using fake board names as you did in your later posts, but I didn't report it because ...?? And why you didn't post in your first reply you think you were the guy receiving the late night phone call from Windjammer that he posted about, as you admitted in your 2nd? Please.

And admit you think Windjammer is a truth sayer because you've been on his 75' schooner and all of his 5 houses? And where and when did you board the Windjammer-- a name of 1000 boats in the world--and don't say Quepos.

And what were the fake board names you knew or thought was Windjammer which I now really think was you? It''ll take you 20 minutes. How do you suspect a guy using a fack board name as you have admitted and not report that?

Don't continue what you and he/you have been doing--we do not want bullshit artists. That's what started this whole thing--he/you didn't know didley about ManAntonio but persisted when challenged to cover your cover. Answer these simple q's and maybe the whole thing was a big mistake and I'll be the 1st to apologize.

Until then, you are him in my book.

Nobody could have a problem with my grammar. More smoke. But I was employed by Uncle in the late 70's in CR and have never been out of CR for more then 6 months since.

Just answer the specific questions, don't dodge them with insults--it just clouds your story. Those q's were made obvious by his/your posts and I'll apologize to you and the board in a heart beat, assuming your answers make more sense then yours/his first non answers. The q's I have have been clearly spelled out above, at least twice, and not answered by you other then with smoke and insults.

Unfortunately, sometimes it takes this type of thread to weed out bullshitters. I put the time in. So can you. I am calling you a bullshitter.

So you can answer the common sense q's I proposed and end this. Until then you are the guy with the imaginery 70' foot sail boat with houses in 5 CR areas including Naranjito and only comes out of self imposed seclusion from the board to defend a 3 week newbie named Windjammer with coo-coo/mui malo info on Quepos. In short it is because it is you.

Who you admit now you see regularly--of course, you have a mirror; and didn't report to Admin 1 or 3 that you knew as you posted that you knew Windjammer was previously posting under different names, because it was you. That's probably the mortal sin on this board, don't play games with your board name so that nobody knows who is really posting wath.

Cut the bullshit. Answer the q's.

That's Uncle as in Uncle Sam. Foreigner's wouldn't know about that. Quit the gobbly gook and vitriole and just answer the simple questions. As of now, you're got as many bullshit dodges as he/you do and you write just like he does, especially when trapped..

What was the topic again? Oh, yes, it all comes back to me now after trudging through the muck--"Family friendly beach closer to San Jose". Although I did learn a bit about the nature and wording of invective--thanks for that to most.
Here are the hotels that were especially worthy (in a good way)
Now, LADiablo mentioned Karahe: http://karahe.com/
Gersen mentioned Verde Mar: http://www.verdemar.com/
and also Villas Mymosa: http://www.villasmymosa.com/
Side note: Damned shame that Srilm was driven away--I've enjoyed his writing.

This just in: Want to buy some? On special sale in SWFL: http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/for/4171471226.html

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