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 Post subject: Help Jon Hammar
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:27 pm 
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I know this isn't the right forum for this topic, but somehow it didn't seem appropriate to post this in "Smack Talk and Fun Stuff".

You may be familiar with the story of Jon Hammar, the ex-Marine from Miami who has been imprisoned in a Mexican jail for the last 3 months on a charge of smuggling guns into Mexico.

Jon is currently chained to a cot in his jail cell, and his family gets RFMs - yes, request for money via WU -- from other prisoners threatening to harm Jon unless they receive protection money.

If you have a minute and want to help Jon and his family, please review and sign the Whitehouse.gov petition here: http://wh.gov/NsU3. It literally takes a couple of minutes to create an account and sign the petition.

If you'd like to learn more about what happened to Jon, please read this article: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/12/06/1 ... rylink=cpy

Another version: http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2592016&spid=

Many here served our country and know firsthand what this Marine went through during his service. This young man's only crime was wanting to surf in Costa Rica, buying a old Winnebago and taking his legally registered .410 shotgun along for hunting.

Thank you for your support,

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 Post subject: Re: Help Jon Hammer
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:43 pm 
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Read it this am.It does belong here--this Marine was headed to CR for surfing.

I followed thru with your advice.

He declared the gun, a family heirloom, when leaving our boarder and going into Mexico. Shotgun was an inch too short per Mexico law as per the MSNBC story. Probably more to the story (not meaning to infer neg inferences about him) behind the scenes as this non-violent criminal act would seemingly avail itself to a 1,2,3 diplomatic resolution between boarder countries that have repeatedly vowed cooperation with each other, or have been to a hearing in Mexico's court system by now.There's a fly in the ointment.


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 Post subject: Re: Help Jon Hammar
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:37 pm 
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jesus christ how can this administration take a hands off approach to this when all they have to do is stop sending money to mexico. over in two minutes.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:35 pm 
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heres another current story that makes no sense and a dead marine is denied a medal of honor by a politician
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... d-grenade/

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:07 pm 
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if you reside in a foreign country you learn very quickly that you can expect little or no help from the U.S. Consulate if you are arrested. This is the State Departments official stance on the subject:

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Arrest or Detention of an American Citizen Abroad

One of the most important tasks of the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad is to provide assistance to U.S. citizens incarcerated abroad. The State Department is committed to ensuring fair and humane treatment for American citizens imprisoned overseas. We stand ready to assist incarcerated citizens and their families within the limits of our authority in accordance with international law.

We can and do monitor conditions in foreign prisons and can protest allegations of abuse against U.S. citizen prisoners when requested to do so. We work with prison officials to ensure treatment consistent with internationally recognized standards of human rights and to ensure that Americans are afforded due process under local laws.

While in a foreign country, a U.S. citizen is subject to that country's laws and regulations which sometimes differ significantly from those in the United States and may not afford the protections available to the individual under U.S. law. As our Country Specific Information for each country explains, penalties for breaking the law can be more severe than in the United States for similar offenses. Persons violating the law, even unknowingly, may be expelled, fined, arrested, or imprisoned.

Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in illegal drugs are strict and convicted offenders can expect jail sentences and fines. If arrested abroad, a citizen must go through the foreign legal process for being charged or indicted, prosecuted, possibly convicted and sentenced, and for any appeals process. Within this framework, U.S. consular officers provide a wide variety of services to U.S. citizens arrested abroad and their families.

Privacy Act - The provisions of the Privacy Act are designed to protect the privacy and rights of Americans, but occasionally they complicate our efforts to assist citizens abroad. As a rule, consular officers may not reveal information regarding an individual American’s location, welfare, intentions, or problems to anyone, including family members and Congressional representatives, without the expressed consent of that individual. Although sympathetic to the distress this can cause concerned families, consular officers must comply with the provisions of the Privacy Act.
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That does not mean that there are not backdoor negotiations going on between the U.S. and Mexican governments but do not expect to see anything official announced. Hopefully negotiations are underway and the issue will be resolved quickly and result in Mr. Hammars release

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 Post subject: Re: Help Jon Hammar
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:25 pm 
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He probably should have left his shotgun back in the States. :|


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:00 pm 
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Everyone knows that guns are prohibited in Mexico. That is why there is no violence :shock: there.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:53 pm 
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He probably should have left his shotgun back in the States. :|
If he had done this, he'd most likely be in Costa Rica right now.



I hope this works out for him. I personally would not take the trip through Mexico right now.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:07 am 
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He didn't have the Eric Holder hand shake down!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:30 pm 
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He should have left his gun at home! It seems he did fill out all the paperwork and still got arrested even before crossing the border?!

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They said, 'Technically you can (bring it across) but you'll need to register it,' and had (Johnny) fill out paperwork to present to Mexican officials.


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Hammar had hoped to hunt small birds with it while living in Costa Rica, Olivia said.
That would have been illegal anyway!
I hope he will get out soon!


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 Post subject: Re: Help Jon Hammar
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:48 pm 
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Icantstayaway wrote:
BlueDevil wrote:
He probably should have left his shotgun back in the States. :|
If he had done this, he'd most likely be in Costa Rica right now.



I hope this works out for him. I personally would not take the trip through Mexico right now.


He must of found something probably on the web that stated he could legally carry it to CR but my God he still would have had to try and cross thru Guatemala and Nicaraga with any kind of weapon even antique. WTF?? He received some very bad advice somewhere compared to the real deal.

Anyway although he was chained to his bed for awhile it was in a safe area out of general population so need to give Matamoros/Tamp. officals credit at least for a safe area for him until freed by their bureacracy (remember they are at internal civil war so lots of stuff goin on). And sounds like tonight per Sen. Nelson it looks very good for him getting out thanks God.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:51 pm 
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Georgee wrote:
He should have left his gun at home! It seems he did fill out all the paperwork and still got arrested even before crossing the border?!

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They said, 'Technically you can (bring it across) but you'll need to register it,' and had (Johnny) fill out paperwork to present to Mexican officials.


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Hammar had hoped to hunt small birds with it while living in Costa Rica, Olivia said.
That would have been illegal anyway!
I hope he will get out soon!


Yeah I mean WTF if any of us brought an even an antique weapon via checked baggage thru J.S.M. we would have our own cozy little jail space in Alajuela for some time.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:34 am 
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Interesting how the biggest sponsor for Jon Hammer's freedom is none other than the "dreaded" Fox News.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:45 pm 
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Fox only tells the truth, everybody knows that! 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:08 pm 
Love 'em or hate 'em, Fox is the ONLY network that does not shill for Obama.


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