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Blue wrote:



First, good for you, BlueDevil. It appears you decided to make a move before you're too old to attract the kind of girl you want to share your life with. And yet, you're honest with yourself - and easing this truth to your girl - that you can't (nor do you want to) go cold turkey, right out of the box as it were. Having something real with this girl trumps your waning interest in mongering all the girls, all of the time, and she knows it.

I had a few rough episodes with my then fiance, when our playbook was being formulated. These were during the 3 months I was in Rio, prior to her embassy interview for the visa. It's when the rubber met the road and we learned if we could reconcile our disparate views on love and sex. I learned she didn't want lies, but couldn't handle the truth. She learned I was a dog, but with the possibility of modification (if not elimination). We both learned we had excellent reasons to get her to Miami and begin a new chapter. We both desired that. The subject of recreational sex was not one I would characterize as "mild amusement" to her. Yet I recognized early on that the fallout from real discussions and events around this topic was not on the cataclysmic scale I was accustomed to with gringas. There were a lot of reasons for this, the least significant of which was that she was desperate to cut a deal. In fact she had a good life with a job, friends, and family that she was loathe to give up. Her seeing beyond my immediate past had more to do with her ability to see the big picture, and her confidence that she could teach me a thing or two. There is no one right answer. A man's age, position in life, desire to be alone or with someone, willingness to compromise, all factor into a decision to hook up, or not.

If you do hook up, make sure she has a glorious ass you can spank when she's bad - like when she leaves you alone to visit her homeland. Smack, smack, smack...that's what she should expect, because you can't simulate the bareback, love affair, with even the best gfe. You can come close, maybe even exceed it for 10 minutes. But then you pay them to go home.

And yours is empty.

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

This is a good thread topic and I have been slow to respond as I could probably pull a "Projio" here.

Hmm. Are we little 'collectors' ? Collecting pictures of our new girls ? Collecting experiences to compare to the previous ones. Are we waiting til we find that one girl that just does it for us ?

I don't know. But when I am single, I never drink at all. I am always busy with this girl or that or meeting the guys to go here or there.

Maybe I am "happier being unhappy". But I feel pretty happy. The girls I see seem pretty happy.

I did "get out" and maybe because it was not the right girl or just me I was unhappy. So for now...I'm still looking. Happily.

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* These are the "Good Ole Days". Enjoy Them.

* RENT but, "Don't Buy a Home in Costa Rica" until you have lived here for THREE years.

Excellent coments from both BD and JM..............

Like you gents I am 99.9% sure when and if I do enter into another serious committed relationship that it will most definitley be with a Latina
and most probably a Paisa de Medello because that is the place I love the most.

Here in my part of Louisiana apart from a few transplanted Mexicanas there is verry little Latina action to be found.

Perhaps one day in the future when I can spend significantly large portions of the year in Medellin perhaps once again I can find something more serious in a relationship like you guys have found although I do worry about bringing a sweet Colombiana over here only to watch her become gringalized in a short period of time.

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Rainman3

JM,

You wrote:



I made it clear from the beginning that I intended to move south as soon as possible after I put my retirement papers in. I realize that many latinas would prefer to move to the US, get their green card/citizenship, and live a life of perceived luxury. This is not the case with my novia. Like your wife, she is loathe to give up what she has back in her homeland, and told me she has no desire to live permanently in the US. In the long-run, I believe this will work out well for both of us. I K*D her about when she finally gets to the States early next year for a 2 - 3 month visit. "After
two weeks in South Jersey, I bet you will be packing your bags for Antioquia." We'll see.

As far as changing me, my novia says she loves me just as I am. Even though I believe her at face value, I sometimes feel the subliminal tap of a rubber mallet for "adjustment" rather than the full weight of a sledge hammer felt by other guys. I guess this is OK. Do I need it? Yes, probably. Can I live with it? Yes, I can. Will I make some changes? Most likely.

RM3,

You wrote:



Not to worry, Rainman! Compared to me, you are just a young pup with many good years left to romance latinas. When you finally do reach the waning phase of your mongering career... and get settling down in your brain... you will know it. I, too, share your concerns about transplanting a sweet paisita and watching the transformation. Maybe it's something to do with the water that makes the women in our country so unhappy. From my perspective, I think it's best to keep her in an environment that maintains her sweetness and freshness.

Enough said before this thead gets moved to the "Rules of Engagement and Novias" forum!

Peace, out...

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Blue Devil

Pura Vida...enjoying life to the fullest...

Rainman 3 this is a great post I have never been married so I cannot speak to that. A dear friend once told me that the women that puts up with all your BS is the one for you! I had that and she was a pain I still sometimes miss (she was in love with me) her when I am not dating anyone. I hope that was not my only shot at a lady to stay with

I know I would be done if I marry. I respect women and myself to much to cheat. Problem for me would be given it all up.

Freedom, money, decision making and the remote

I will also keep in mind all the days I came home to a empty house and I would not want to lose it

NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

Is it possible that there is a flip side to this coin. Instead of guys not being able to get out, others make better mates because they now knew what they liked and were better able to pick the right girl.

Plus they don't need to ever be jealous of any situation or girl because they have been there-done that.

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* These are the "Good Ole Days". Enjoy Them.

* RENT but, "Don't Buy a Home in Costa Rica" until you have lived here for THREE years.

1) I am 50 years old and don't really like dating 50 year old women, yet don't have enough money to be considered for Sugar daddy status in the U.S.
2) I never met a women that I could see myself spending the rest of my life with.
3) I like young sweet things with tight ass bodies.

I guess I was just born to Monger. However, I have reached that point where I don't feel the need to chase tail 24X7 or 12 X 6 ......or 2x1.

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“Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” And we are the guys that keep them in Eggs & Grits

I went searching for Jazz Musician's posts, never having finished reading all his Research reports, and now it's a treat to find his updates, even back a few years.

Two thoughts on the topic above.

Mongering is not aberrant behavior; it is our biological norm. It's just that American men have been brainwashed to repress it, and without travel will probably never get to enjoy it.

I remember exactly where I was walking, 6 years ago, in front of Castillo on my way to NF after the girl I loved didn't show up, when I realized that biologically as men we want two things: Someone special. And Variety.

(Trying both the same day -- Whew! Leticia! -- was definitely guilt-provoking. But as the sun rises on a new day, well... all histories are refreshed, are they not?)

Argue with that for awhile if you will, but I think the posts above illustrate it very well. The Special Someone can dampen the impulse -- Hell, I turned 180 and ran away from two affair possibilities while married -- but it's still there.

And how the woman handles that is well-illustrated above by JM (give her time, though, bro), and also by the description a married Tico who worked repairs for ICE gave me, as he took me over to my first time at MR, and then over to Castro's to look for civilians.

The women gossip, he told me, and if the husband is not known as somewhat flirtatious ("safado" in Brasil?) the woman may be teased (I always picture them gossiping over the backyard fence while hanging up the laundry) by the others "What's the matter with Jose? Is he enough man for you?" in so many words.

If he is somewhat naughty, he is a "manly" man, and her reputation is enhanced by that, if it is seen that she and the family are his primary loyalty. She "controls" a strong virile man, and her family is forwarded in the social setting they inhabit. Better advancement chances for her Ch*ldren, probably better income for her to enjoy. And this is likely the priority in her own life.

Now, she may fire a shot across his bow occasionally, if she senses things out of kilter, or just randomly to be sure he knows she's in the game, too, and not a passive piece of furniture. I won't forget the shock of the few Latina rages I've experienced, mostly out of the blue.

And she certainly would not like another woman's Ch*ld competing for his paycheck. A perra too far.

A delicate balance, but in the realities of the economic and social world she knows around her, not a bad deal.

Just a many-layered cake of paradoxical juxtapositions, but that's the kind of animal we humans are. We just do a different mating dance. (Hey, do dogs ever say, "Let's do it people-style"?)

Jazz Musician I found the below to be right on target as far as I am concerned.



I lived in Europe and never married until I was in my late 30's and and did a lot of mongering prior to that. We had 32 years together before she died and the last 10 were not the best. She spent almost five years in a nursing home prior to passing and the last three or so of those she was bedridden and no longer spoke or knew who I was. My life consisted of daily visits to the nursing home, the grocery store and coming home...and my home was empty except for the memories of the life we had together there before it all fell apart. A friend that I worked together with in Europe that knew what a horny bastard I have always been talked me into coming down to CR. I spent that first night at the HDR and the morning I arrived there I happened to hook-up with a sweet girl from Columbia. Never got her telephone number, never saw her again, but she relighted my fire and I made more trips down to CR and got to know that there was the possibility of a life again for me. During that time I happened to say to my wife's best friend in an email that I doubted I would ever marry again, but the women in CR were beautiful. Her daughter happened to read that email and realized that I had not given up on life and when her mother became ill and asked her to contact me we began to correspond. First by email and then by telephone. It was only platonic, but I needed someone to talk to. We had met only once 20 years before for five minutes. I was with my wife at the time and it was obvious that my wife and I had something special together and that was lacking in her life at that time. The three of us talked for about five minutes and that was that. About six months after we started corresponding, first with emails and then phone calls she told me she had feelings for me and had had since she saw me together with my wife 20 some odd years ago and could she stop here on her way to Seattle? I panicked. I told her I was now 20 years older, no longer had hair and had gained weight and wrinkles since she last saw me. Her response was that she didn't look the same either, but it turns out she did. I am 68 and still as horny as I was in my teens and don't need the little blue pill. My sex drive is still the monkey on my back as it has been since I was 14. She is ten years my junior, but looks like she is in her late 30's and I am so happy to have someone to share my life with again. She's not perfect, but then neither am I. Love is learning to either like or excuse other's warts and my girlfriend and I have spent the last three years doing just that. She's not Latino, but she's not your average American either. My wife was British and I never thought I could be happy with an American woman, not because they are American, but because of the life I led all those years in Europe I'm not American anymore in many ways. And, lucky for me, because of the life she led she's not as American as she could be because of her years with a French husband. Do I want to monger any longer? She asked me that as I have been very honest with her about my past in CR and Europe and I can honestly say no. I guess, at least for me, it depends on who I am now and who I am with now. Recreational sex can be great and if we choose well it usually is, but having someone to share your life with, at least for me, is even better. And, once again, for me that person needs to be someone that I have something in common with in terms of shared life experiences.

I just want to be happy and if I can share that happiness with another it makes it more meaningful for me.

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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

I got out of it about six years ago and never looked back. Paying for play is a very lonesome and shallow existence. If you just need to get your nuts off, then its fine. However, it doesn't compare to something more meaningful.

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Bottom line is you cannot find lasting happiness and contentment in mongering or a relationships as happineess can only be found in the spiritual plane not anything in the temporal. From within oneself!

I agree and relate with your experiences regarding P4P. My goal, when I make the move to Latin America, is to balance P4P with a somewhat committed relationship. I do not however have any illusions of getting married and starting a family with a white picket fence.

Devo

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Rain man,I'm exactly the guy you described in the beginning of this thread ,ive been to dr , cr and Medellin also the termas of RIO .i first began this because I was coming out of a relationship with a mean ass American girl . Very bitchy and loud ....a piece of shit she treated me like . Never cheated or traveled on her. As I did my first trip to cr in 2007 I was hooked . Knowing I was coming up on a trip was enough to kill the pain of not having a steady GF here .. I think I just didnt have my game on back then ,didn't drink ,didn't date separated girls or ones on meds ... Ext.. Was too,picky

Hooking up with p4p does improve your game ,actually some of them do like us for real and enjoy the sexo but take away the money the game is over . I improved my game ,hit the gym , tanned ,hair maintainence , learned to speak Spanish and Portuguese ,still learning .. I set up on Latin American Cupid I think jazz musician may be the first to send me there it was many years ago .i remeber reading of his adventures traveling into the favelas with these poor girls ,was kinda like an international Romeo . I really liked that idea and started to find out it was SOOO much easier to hook up with younger hotter girls from Latin American country's then here ,here is a cultural taboo . I have meet girls in airports in those country's and spent honeymoons with them ,you have to be very smart and get to know them for a long time and have some balls ,this isn't for regular guys . I started to realize the same thing as Jazz I didn't like hurting them ,so I stopped the romancing part I realized I'm probably never going to bring them here .

My game got much better and had a few short term relationships here with girls i meet online but usually did some trips after break ups . One day I meet a girl as hot and sweet as any of those girls we meet in the places CRT guys go and a relationship happened ! I Wasent looking it just happened ...yeah she is brasillian ,as jazz will tell you they are the best detectives in the world the dumbest brasillian can find more shit on your computer then FBI software can . She found some shit but took me back . I'll tell you we ain't fooling anyone these girls know why we go on these trips they wait for our fotos and ask us questions . It's best if they are the type whom would rather not know .

Now I'm faced with change ... The topic of this .. Ofcourse I have airline tickets purchased already but odds are I'll hurt someone and or lose someone if I go no matter how good I hide my tracks . So what to do ? I may postpone its not worth hurting anotther human being whom has loved you and helped you especially when you didn't deserve it .

I think the consensus here is if the girl is good enough we can stop ,maybe not forever it depends on the fiber of our being or maybe forever like mom and pop? I much safer life is to travel and experience many different woman in short bursts because woman in relationships always want something be it marriage ,baby's or houses then you risk losing it all over practicing your natural instinct which is too reproduce .

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[/quote] I got out of it about six years ago and never looked back. Paying for play is a very lonesome and shallow existence. If you just need to get your nuts off, then its fine. However, it doesn't compare to something more meaningful.[/quote]

That can't be better then being able to post you paid hookers 24 times in 3 days and it only cost you $1800, or that you had to keep the whole crew at HLH busy because it was slow and you felt sorry for them. That is meaningful. Man up or shut up.

Taz and Chi

You two claim that you are in happy committed relationships. This website is solely about mongering. Why do you even look here anymore? There are a million places to visit on the web other than a sex tourist web site.

Me thinks you two still have P4P in the back of your mind.