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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:27 am 
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There are three basic types of men:

1. Men that clearly hate and/or resent women but enjoy sex with them. Whether the physical aspect or them viewing it as a control mechanism (p4p or not), they feel this is their only way of being in “control” but clearly have issues. Whether from their parents relationship, or have been “played” by one or many women, they have a “scorched earth” mentality that ALL women are whores and worthless. Their attitude about women only attracts the bad news ones. Like attracts like, period!

2. Men that enjoy the company of women and sex and are usually labeled as “nice guys” and are constantly trying to supplicate them in order to validate their own physical and/or emotional needs. They usually get walked on and are seldom in control of their own emotions/actions when dealing with women, therefore usually get dogged out. However, because they do have an overall positive outlook on life in general and do not hate women, they can usually find a few “good” women that like them and will accept them for who they are.

3. Men that love women and love pretty much everything about them, even the crazy shit many do. However, these guys recognize the ones that are bad news very quickly and do not spend too much time on them (maybe a date/Phuck or two before they realize). These guys realize that humans in general have issues, but refuse to play the victim mentality and blame women for all the problems in their lives. They accept responsibilities for their choices in life, good or bad, and while they enjoy the hell out of being with women, it is not needed in order to make them happy or fulfilled. They do not put up with bullshit from women because they have an abundance mentality that there are a TON of great women to be had and view themselves as the prize.


Bottom line is that there are many women that are bad news, but if men are too foolish to spot them and steer clear, they will get what they deserve. Regardless of good or bad, 95% of women – at least for a while - will behave according to how strong a man’s frame is (not physically speaking per se but that too). If a man is sure of himself and what he wants and clearly does not tolerate bullshit, yet still treats women that prove THEMSELVES to him with respect and courtesy. This does not mean if she proves to be trouble that he treats her like shit, he simply cuts her loose and is not angry or bitter vice putting up with bullshit and then either blaming her and/or feeling sorry for himself for being subjected to her “evils”.

In my experience with friends, co-workers and just seeing how men behave in general, less than 20% of men possess these attributes. Does that make them “bad” or “weak”? No, just misinformed. The best way to look at this is think about the men that you know that have the best relations with women (not necessarily the ones that get the most pu*sy either, but often the case). What do these guys have in common? Are they angry? Are they OVERLY nice to women? Are they generally upbeat and happy guys? Are they socially well adjusted? Are they doing something GREAT with their life that doesn’t involve women?

Pretty simple formula.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:47 pm 
Well, have fun doing whatever you do. I just don't put too much trust in women or other people for that matter. Just in myself.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:53 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:20 pm 
Not really a John Lennon fan, I come from a different generation, but I do know a little bit about the guy.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:51 pm 
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As Hamlet tells Ophilia, " for wise men know well enough what monsters you make of them" essentially saying that women use their Pu$sy to manipulate men and make them do crazy things for her, that women are the source of men's sin.

All this effort and bullsh"t for these goofy and silly women. We really have to be nuts!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:31 am 
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All these issues didn't exist 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago for that matter. Sure, women were likely a headache in some way, shape or form, but men were much more dominant than they generally are in modern times. We have gotten too far away from that and many men confuse being controlling as being dominant. As a whole we have given up our role as leaders in life and in our relationships with women. Again, being controlling (insecure) should not to be confused with leading.

They should be valued in a way, but not put on a pedistal – big difference. Case and point, in a non-P4P (I guess in P4P at times too) social setting men gnerally jockey for position for women, and while in some facets it is our role to initially pursue, guys worry more about a woman liking them and meeting her standards than seeking those that meet his standards – physically and all other aspects (the other ones being the ones where warning signs are ignored).

Like everything else in life – if one expects trouble, drama or just women in general being “evil”, 99 times out of 100 that is exactly what they will attract.

Be safe and best of luck to all, P4P or otherwise!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:25 pm 
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Quick hypothetical question...

If we amassed a panel of experts do you think they wold draw any conclusions about the major sentiment expressed in this 6 page topic and the nature of the board in which it was posted?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:44 pm 
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Yea. He'd say there's a bunch of bitter ass men who are generally failures with women.. I haven't read the whole thread cause it wreaks of failure..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:54 am 
Cujo'S wrote:
Yea. He'd say there's a bunch of bitter ass men who are generally failures with women.. I haven't read the whole thread cause it wreaks of failure..

Cujo


I think you mean "reeks" of failure. Sounds like the shoe fits you! I don't measure my success by the bitches I have. Money is a great way to measure success. I don't think you get it. Some never will.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:03 am 
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Cujo'S wrote:
Yea. He'd say there's a bunch of bitter ass men who are generally failures with women.. I haven't read the whole thread cause it wreaks of failure..

Cujo


Hmmm...

And so it begs the question, "What does success with women look like?" The irony in your statement is profound and you're not even aware of it.

I can think of no better rest stop for the discouraged man than a site such as this one. If any man be considered a failure with women let him come to CR and find rest for his weary and bitter soul.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:09 am 
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“Failure” with women is just a result of a man not having solid boundaries or a strong sense of self. Nothing more, nothing less.

It’s pretty simple, but the ones that are bitter refuse to accept the fact that they let this happen to them. To blame others for one’s anger as a result of some action (or lack of) inflicted by someone else is the typical American mindset…..

Women almost always blame men for the problems in their lives. Weak men always blame women for the problems in their life or what she "did" to him. It’s not that difficult…


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:09 am 
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I wish it really was so simple. I agree that if a man is weak and refuses to stand up for himself against his woman, he'll be getting much more than he bargained for. My primary concern is the legal ramifications of his decision which may continue long after the lesson is learned. So you made a bad choice in marrying a woman, does that mistake mean that you should pay alimony to her for the rest of your life? Does it mean that you should lose custody of your Ch*ldren and pay Ch*ld support to the mother regardless of whether you ever see your Ch*ldren again? Does it also mean that your assets, retirement, and business proceeds go to a woman you no longer have a relationship with?

Blaming women for your problems and your lack of personal accountability is one thing. Paying for it for the rest of your life is another.

... Or should one simply "man up" as is often the ignorant catch all advice for men these days?

I consider family law an injustice to men in America. Apparently, I am in the minority.

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Got the chica pro-flo headed out the doe/
Got cien dollar bills-n-bags for my Del Rey shags/
Scoping out Tica heels wit the flaca feels/
No novia para me cause its extra fee, not "free"/
Gonna get a Pura Vida meeta not a gringa skeeza/
Dis is how it goes wit hoes in Santa Joe's/
No need for the true player/just a true payer
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:34 am 
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I hear ya Walltime. I haven't made the mistake and if I did I would always protect myself. Like sheep, men get married because it is what they are supposed to do. Most that end in problems had the warning signs early but men always choose to ignore these. Society tells them it is time to settle down and they take the first appropriate looking choice to couple with without really giving thought to compatibility or what the nature of said woman really is. I've had to call friend's bullshit post marriage and ask them how they didn't see she was a cunt in the first place when the rest of the world did. There are exceptions, but the overwhelming majority of men caused their own current financial, K*D problems with women. Delusion is comforting to hide behind and guess it doesn't really hurt anyone. If misogyny helps to heal the wound, it's no skin off my nose.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:50 pm 
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I hear that Third. Trust me, not judging anyone by any strech of the imagination. We are all on our own journey at gotta figure it out for ourselves. I briefly went down that road after I got divorced but quickly realized it is not who I wanted to be and what I wanted for my life. Since then things are much better and I have overall great expereiences with women. Whether one date or a relationship. All it is for me is just a different level of awareness. Not that I have it mastered but well on my way....


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:25 am 
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Jett wrote:
. . . My primary concern is the legal ramifications of his decision which may continue long after the lesson is learned. So you made a bad choice in marrying a woman, does that mistake mean that you should pay alimony to her for the rest of your life? Does it mean that you should lose custody of your Ch*ldren and pay Ch*ld support to the mother regardless of whether you ever see your Ch*ldren again? Does it also mean that your assets, retirement, and business proceeds go to a woman you no longer have a relationship with?
. . .
I consider family law an injustice to men in America. Apparently, I am in the minority.


Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and don't want to be one. Extenuating circumstances, such as Ch*ld abuse, do not apply to the following statement. It is based solely on a parting due to irreconcilable differences.

I believe many of the laws regarding marriage, and what happens should that marriage fail, stem from the days when the man was the sole bread winner and the woman's place was in the home; cooking, cleaning, raising the Ch*ldren etc.. The attitude was that women did not have the resources needed to sustain themselves and therefore it was the mans' responsibility to see to her and the Ch*ldren's well being, financially. As society changed the laws did not so the man automatically got the shaft.
Women are totally capable of supporting themselves these days. In some cases better than a man. A man should take responsibility for his actions and be willing to contribute to the benefit of the Ch*ldren even if the woman is financially better off.
But how dare we change the laws to protect both parties. Can you imagine the outcry, especially from women, if the laws were changed to be equitable.

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