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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:07 pm 
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Right, so we got that stuff out of the way, can we return to a discussion of why it's important to verify as clients the medical credentials of those being invasive/ making long-term decisions about our tacky corpuses? Could I have been any more stuffy?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:20 pm 
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Apparently my post was deleted by the Admin.. JazzboCR...you are a piece of work. Idiot response. You have no clue. Sad


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Apparently my post was deleted by the Admin.. JazzboCR...you are a piece of work. Idiot response. You have no clue. Sad

I take my compliments as I find them.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:59 pm 
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There you go again you old phucking fart.

Jazzbo is a respected member of this site. He does not deserve criticism from a low life like you. He is intelligent and offers a constructive view of life in CR. Unlike you, who wants to complain about your miserable personal life which has nothing to do with issues on this site.

You get vodka pickled and go on ranting about your episodes. How about revealing the truth about your time at the emergency room. I came down to see you there hoping you would go belly up....especially with that fat belly of yours. I'm surprised that they took your dirty shirt off to do an EKG. Your pits stink and your chest hair is disgusting.

You forgot to mention about the cops arresting you the night before. Walking around the city dump half naked with a goat on at lease. Hmmmmmm. What were you thinking you retard.

I am so ashamed to be your son. When you go room temperature the world will be a better place.

Sorry about tha Jazzbo...he is beyond help.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:11 pm 
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It's all good--reasonable gents can disagree without being disagreeable...or so I've believed.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:22 pm 
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Circus the younger wrote:
Jazzbo is a respected member of this site. He does not deserve criticism from a low life like you.



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It's all good--reasonable gents can disagree without being disagreeable...or so I've believed.


Sorry about that Jazz. An endorsement from CYO is the kiss of death. :lol:

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Many Canadians do not have a family Doctor and are forced to use the Walk in Clinics. If you are a Canadian politician or simply do not want to wait a few months for a diagnosis, the Mayo Clinic is just a short plane ride away. Gotta love that Socialist healthcare.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:05 pm 
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Devo presents one version of a "single-pay" system; there are many others, most of which work well indeed. The US system is irretrievably broken and was flawed from the start. The US system is not studied for adoption by any other nation--why do you think that is?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:17 pm 
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Jazzbo...Enjoy your Obama care when it becomes law....if it does. Apparently, you like socialized medicine....I for one do not. Just a matter of choice. I respect your choice to have government decide your medical availability.


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JazzboCR wrote:
Devo presents one version of a "single-pay" system; there are many others, most of which work well indeed. The US system is irretrievably broken and was flawed from the start. The US system is not studied for adoption by any other nation--why do you think that is?


I will admit that I am not an expert on the US medical system (just like most Americans do not fully understand the Socialized Canadian system).

I do know for a fact however that many Canadian politicians,those with wealth, or those who simply can't wait go to the USA for healthcare. I wonder how many wealthy Americans/politicians come to Canada for our Socialized healthcare?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:44 am 
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Not to get into the politics or comparing the merits of differing health care systems but just as a general observation the key as Devo alluded to is wealth.

Arguably the U.S. has world class doctors and medical facilities which attract those who are heads of state or titans of industry when they are diagnosed with a life threatening condition. However, the case may be made that those who cannot afford those world class facilities or lack the means to buy premium health care insurance policies are often shunted off to doctors and facilities that are far less then world class. Those who have neither insurance nor money and are ill but are not suffering a life threatening illness certainly find themselves worse off than if they had access to socialized medicine.

Socialized medicine as practiced in Costa Rica while not world class at the very least allows those who cannot afford to seek private care the opportunity to have their ailments treated.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:09 pm 
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I had forgotten about this persons account of his treatment at a CCSS hospital. Refreshing read from someone who has actual experience to relate rather then the rumor and innuendo that are frequent when accounts of the care at a CAJA /hospital/clinic are related.

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Medical Care At a CCSS Hospital – A Different Kind of Story
By Steven Fargo

Have you ever been treated in a CCSS (Caja) hospital? Probably not. But most of you have heard stories about inefficient service, uncaring personnel and long lines.

This story is about my experience at with the CCSS medical system. I am a legal resident of Costa Rica; pay for voluntary Caja medical coverage and I am over 60. For the past few months I have been suffering from severe pain in my left leg below the knee. I was examined at the local CCSS clinic in Santa Ana and was given a reference to Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes in San José. This hospital is available only to patients over the age of 60.

My first visit to the hospital was on a Tuesday morning about 9:30AM and I expected to spend the entire day waiting in lines and filling out forms. I certainly did not expect to receive any medical help, at least not on that day. I was directed to the area where new patients are registered and, to my surprise, all it took was showing the referral from my local clinic, my cedula and proof that I was current in my voluntary coverage payments. Less than a half-hour later a nurse recorded my weight and blood pressure and I was sitting in a reception area waiting to see an in-take physician.

This was the longest wait of the day, about 45 minutes. The young physician had my records from the local clinic up on his computer screen and spent about 15 minutes asking me questions about family history, medications I take and having me describe the pain in my leg. Then came a brief examination followed by the doctor's opinion that I should be seen by a Neurologist to determine the source of the pain and the possible treatment options.

I sarcastically asked how many months or years it would take to see a specialist and he grinned and said "Let's see what we can do." He wrote a referral to the specialist and sent me to the appointments desk. After checking the computer for available appointments, to my great surprise, the clerk asked me if Thursday at 10AM would be OK. Of course, I asked "Which Thursday or which year?" When she said "This Thursday, two days from now." I was really surprised.

Total time on Day 1 at Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes: 2hr 15min

I returned to the hospital on Thursday at 10AM and was directed to the Neurologist's office. Had to wait about 15 minutes for him to finish with another patient and then I was greeted in pure American English; turns out that the doctor was raised in New England before his family returned to Costa Rica. What a nice surprise! My Spanish is reasonably good but being able to talk to the doctor in English was a real benefit.

After taking an extensive history and conducting a very through exam, the tentative diagnosis was a compressed Sciatic nerve below my left knee. He wrote orders for an x-ray series, an ultrasound exam and specialized physical therapy. I was told to make an appointment to see him again in two weeks.

The same clerk set my x-ray and ultrasound appointments for the following Tuesday morning and said that she was going to have to talk to the Chief of Physical Therapy about getting me into their schedule.

Total time on Day 2 at Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes: 1hr 30min

Tuesday morning, 7:30AM I reported to the radiology department expecting to be there a good part of the day. To my surprise x-ray was ready for me almost immediately and when they were finished, the ultrasound technician was waiting for me.

Total time on Day 3: 1hr 15 minutes

Friday morning, 10:00AM I met with the Neurologist and was told that I have a badly inflamed tendon caused by my right leg being 5mm (¼") shorter than my left leg. He wrote a prescription for shoe inserts to correct this problem and arranged for me to start physical therapy the following week. I was told to purchase a tube of an anti-inflammatory ointment (the CCSS does not provide this medicine) and bring it to the physical therapy sessions.

Total time on Day 4 at Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes: 45 minutes

Wednesday afternoon 12:30PM. I reported to the Physical Therapy department. The Physical Therapy physician established a schedule of three treatments weekly and within 15 minutes the anti-inflammatory ointment was being applied with an ultrasound device. Then hot compresses were put on my leg to further stimulate deep penetration of the medicine.

Total time on Day 5 at Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes: 1 hour

I have now had three physical therapy sessions and I can feel a substantial reduction of the pain I have been suffering for all these months.

All of the personnel at the Hospital Dr. Raúl Blanco Cervantes have been incredibly courteous, efficient and sympathetic to the pain. Don't believe all the horror stories you may have heard about the CCSS (Caja) medical system. You have to have a little patience and the facilities are not as bright and shinny as a private hospital but the medical care is first rate.


Granted he is speaking of one hospital in the system. I was referred there for a special test and based on my experience I can attest his story is accruate. My appointment was for 8:00 a.m. and my English speaking doctor actual saw me at 7:55. I was out of there, with test results in hand, at 8:40.

There are pro & con points to all health care delivery systems. If you have not experienced the use of one of the types do not be so quick to criticize. One thing about the CAJA there is no insurance company deciding what tests, care, procedures, etc. you are permitted to have or how long your hospital stay may be. Those decisions are made by the medical staff and their decision is based on what you need not what the cost will be.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Perhaps some of you might want to Google "death panels." Under Obama care older seniors will be exposed to decisions from appointed Bureaucrats that will decide if a medical procedure will be given to a person considering their age and what the costs will be. If it is decided that the costs are not within the budget of the health care system...then the medical procedure will be denied.

I am 68 yrs. old. When this kicks in...I will be in my 70's. I will be expendable. I suggest that you nay- sayers check this more closely. If you are a lot younger then perhaps you may not have the grim reaper following you....unless you have a bad medical history.

Do your research. I'm not talking about CR or Canada....I'm speaking about what will happen in the U.S. 2600 pages of a health reform bill that was sent through congress with millions of dollars personally paid to congress people to approve. A rape of our rights.

Yeah, I may have to move to CR. No cold and good tasting milk, horrible steaks, horrible infro- structure, women that could be my grand daughters and not a place to smoke a cigar reasonably.

Health care...who cares if you can't enjoy yourself.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:44 pm 
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How about the death panels of the insurance company's. They already deny treatment every day based on nothing more then profits.. ask the doctors that have to deal with what is allowed and what is not.

The government death panels are are a product of the right wing, Joseph Goebbels propaganda campaign of " say the big lie and repeat over and over until the people believe the lie" And i can see that program has succeeded in your case.

Your 68 so I am guessing your not on Medicare, right, That's already a government health care program, or are you just for Government Health care for "some of us and not you know-- them "

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I agree with XMan00's words and intent.

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